Will Craig be the same "Bond" in the next film?

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James Bond in Casino Royale was an odd, immature, inexperienced agent. Will Craig portray the same bond in the next film? Or will he try to develop the character?
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I hope the producers start to develop his typical traits in the next one, start to smooth off the hard edges. Make him more refined.
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The Sweeney wrote:I hope the producers start to develop his typical traits in the next one, start to smooth off the hard edges. Make him more refined.
agree for the most part.
He needs to work on acting like Bond. A rough around the edges agent never was Fleming intention. I hope they don't concentrate too much on being different for the next one.
Not much hope for this since supposedly they shot the opening scenes for Bond 22 at the end of CR. unless it's only a myth.
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The Sweeney wrote:I hope the producers start to develop his typical traits in the next one, start to smooth off the hard edges. Make him more refined.
agree for the most part.
He needs to work on acting like Bond. A rough around the edges agent never was Fleming intention. I hope they don't concentrate too much on being different for the next one.
Not much hope for this since supposedly they shot the opening scenes for Bond 22 at the end of CR. unless it's only a myth.
They have shot the opening scenes for 22, but the storyline, character development will influence the new direction. We'll have to wait and see....
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I think (and hope) we'll see a character arc in Craigs Bond.
Maybe that's why they hired him, looking at the big picture and down the track, a triliogy of Bond films that carry on from the last, and seeing the James Bond character develop.
It's a bold and daring change for the Bond family, and one that so far is paying off.
Bond 22 has alot to live upto, but I'm not worried about anything yet.
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The Sweeney wrote:I hope the producers start to develop his typical traits in the next one, start to smooth off the hard edges. Make him more refined.
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carl stromberg wrote:James Bond in Casino Royale was an odd, immature, inexperienced agent. Will Craig portray the same bond in the next film? Or will he try to develop the character?
Inexperienced granted, as it was his first mission, but he wasn't immature. He was more mature than Brosnan's and Moore's portrayals. I hope he doesn't jump from Royale's portrayal straight into the "perfect" portrayal, as that would be unrealistic, but he should be alot closer, as he was at the end of the film.

He had the tastes etc. of "classic" Bond, expensive champagne, caviar, good wine, a well made martini etc. The love of women was also shown.
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I hope he doesn't jump from Royale's portrayal straight into the "perfect" portrayal, as that would be unrealistic
Granted - that would be totally unrealistic. In fact thatt's the weakest point of this whole reboot. CR was supposed to show very beginning of Bond's career, before he became the character we all know from the previous films. Unfortunately, image of Bond introduced in CR has completely nothing in common with this 'typical Bond stereotype". As a result development in this direction would be psychologically unbelievable.
He had the tastes etc. of "classic" Bond, expensive champagne, caviar, good wine, a well made martini etc. The love of women was also shown.
Oh you're so right! And yet he drove For Mondeo and must have been given a tux by Vesper "to look like a man who belongs at that table"
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Robert Stirling wrote:As a result development in this direction would be psychologically unbelievable.
I can see him being in the same style of Connery, Lazenby, Dalton at the end of the 2nd movie and in the 3rd.
He had the tastes etc. of "classic" Bond, expensive champagne, caviar, good wine, a well made martini etc. The love of women was also shown.
Oh you're so right! And yet he drove For Mondeo and must have been given a tux by Vesper "to look like a man who belongs at that table"
The Mondeo was a hire car remember - not something you can easily pick and choose, he also drove (and knew the date of) a classic Aston Martin and had a brand new Aston Martin. He also had his own Dinner Jacket and chose a classic dress for Vesper.
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With his origin story being completed and the ending of CR showing a well dressed Bond with that macho confidence while delivering "The name is Bond... James Bond", I suspect we'll have a more polished Connery-esque Bond with the Fleming elements still intact. Having a Bond making mistakes and learning from them was already covered in CR. He should probably make a few mistakes, but not much since by the second film he should be act more like a professional OO-Agent.

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Robert Stirling wrote:Oh you're so right! And yet he drove For Mondeo and must have been given a tux by Vesper "to look like a man who belongs at that table"
Hmmm....what car did Moore drive during the car chase in FYEO...?

And the Mondeo was a rental car. Nothing dubious about that.
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Hopefully they will drop the "young Bond" elements from Bond 22. Craig is 40 and looks 50.

Craig is reportedly a great actor but I'm not sure his range extends to playing "a more polished Connery-esque Bond". If Eon want that in the next movie, they will have to recast the role.

Maybe they could have Bond a jaded, troubled agent late in his 00 career. Why not steal from 24 and have Bond as a heroin addict?
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:Hopefully they will drop the "young Bond" elements from Bond 22. Craig is 40 and looks 50.

Craig is reportedly a great actor but I'm not sure his range extends to playing "a more polished Connery-esque Bond". If Eon want that in the next movie, they will have to recast the role.
No they won't recast the role for the next movie, and you know it. Will Craig be a more refined Connery type next time? Who knows, but he is more than capable of pulling off that as a role. You are in denial if you think he can't.
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No they won't recast the role for the next movie, and you know it. Will Craig be a more refined Connery type next time? Who knows, but he is more than capable of pulling off that as a role. You are in denial if you think he can't.
I don't think Craig is capable of pulling off the more refined Connery Bond type role. I think you will be very disappointed if you are expecting him to.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:
No they won't recast the role for the next movie, and you know it. Will Craig be a more refined Connery type next time? Who knows, but he is more than capable of pulling off that as a role. You are in denial if you think he can't.
I don't think Craig is capable of pulling off the more refined Connery Bond type role. I think you will be very disappointed if you are expecting him to.
And why don't you think he is not capable of doing something as basic as playing refined for a thespian actor? He has played far more demanding roles than that before. Just look at the number of varied roles he has done?

So you think the first ever BAFTA nominated actor to play Bond cannot play a posh gentleman type....

That just made my day! :lol:
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Name the roles Craig has played where he could conceivably show that he will turn up out Connerying Connery in the next Bond installment!
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:Name the roles Craig has played where he could conceivably show that he will turn up out Connerying Connery in the next Bond installment!
I can't think of any roles off the top of my head were he has played a Connery type before - but you have totally missed the point I was making.

Craig is an actor. A person who's very good at acting - ie. playing a role that is somehow different to oneself. An actor. Acting.

Or do you think there are no such things as actors, and that Anthony Hopkins really goes round eating people, that De Niro really is a taxi driver and boxer, that John Cleese really does run a hotel in Torquay, that Roy Schieder really is scared of water, that Brosnan really does surf on CGI icebergs and drive invisible cars......etc.

Craig is an actor. A very good actor. A person who is convincing in the different roles they play. He is the most gifted actor to ever play Bond (yes, even more than Connery). Craig's roles have been far more varied than any other actor to portray Bond. Why? Because he is d**n good at acting.

Craig is not James Bond in real life. he is an

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I can't think of any roles off the top of my head were he has played a Connery type before
Thank you for confirming my point. :wink:

I'm not sure what you are saying in the rest of your rambling post. I think you are saying that Craig is one of the greatest actors of all time and can play any role better than anyone else? Even great actors can be miscast in certain roles. I feel that Craig won't be able to play a Connery type Bond. He lacks the natural charm to do so.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:
I can't think of any roles off the top of my head were he has played a Connery type before
Thank you for confirming my point. :wink:

I'm not sure what you are saying in the rest of your rambling post. I think you are saying that Craig is one of the greatest actors of all time and can play any role better than anyone else? Even great actors can be miscast in certain roles. I feel that Craig won't be able to play a Connery type Bond. He lacks the natural charm to do so.
Some already say he is the Connery Bond. Critics are claiming he is the closest actor to Connery - so it's all a matter of opinion.

Regarding my ramblings, I was pointing out that Craig is a very good actor. The acting skills and talent required to play Bond are not very demanding, and well withing Craig's capablities and strengths as an actor.
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Let's hope that he plays a more charming, refined and witty Bond. To me, Daniel Craig didn't play Bond at all in CR. Bond just wasn't there.
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