The YOLT/OHMSS continuity problem

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The YOLT/OHMSS continuity problem

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I could've killed the producers over this alone . . . although they did try to make OHMSS before YOLT . . . Bond and Blofeld should recognize each other in OHMSS after previously battling in YOLT . . . the producers just chose to ignore the continuity problem after rejecting a script that suggested Bond had undergone plastic surgery, which would also explain his "new appearance" (different actor). Since OHMSS contains the references to the other films (including the to me execrable line "this never happened to the other feller") it doesn't qualify as a reboot (just as the Cregg reboot ultimately erred in including the Goldfinger car, which has no logical connection to the modern reboot), the only way to get around the continuity problem is to treat the Connery EON moves as a set unto themselves. . . thus Bond escapes the explosion at the end of YOLT, and then the next you see of him, he is still in Japan (though looking MUCH older!) tossing a guy through a screen at the beginning of Diamonds Are Forever as he hunts for Blofeld. . . . this also removes the taint of Moneypenny's wedding ring joke at the start of Diamonds Are Forever, so soon after Bond's wife is killed in OHMSS (Moneypenny would never be so gauche!)
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You made some excellent points and I felt the same way. However after watching FRWL for the billionth time last month I realized Blofeld/Specter knew what Bond looked like the entire series. They have a photograph of him to show Tania, Kronstien knows exactly who M will send "Their best agent James Bond", they know he killed Dr. No because getting revenge would be and "added refinement" but most of all they even made a mask of his face for training in the pre titles sequence. Also if you think of the other films in Dr. No the doctor knew exactly who he was, as well as Largo in TB, his picture was plastered all over the papers in YOLT when he "died" and Blofeld didn't bat an eye when he was brought to his control room. So I've come to the conclusion we should get by, by just closing our eyes and thinking of England and just be glad they aren’t Craig films!
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Blofeld takes off Bond's glasses and says something to the effect that the disguise doesn't fool him. I take that to mean that Blofeld recognized him immediately and was just playing along to lull Bond into a false sense of security. Not sure if that's what the filmmakers intended, but it works for me.

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dirtybenny wrote:You made some excellent points and I felt the same way. However after watching FRWL for the billionth time last month I realized Blofeld/Specter knew what Bond looked like the entire series. They have a photograph of him to show Tania, Kronstien knows exactly who M will send "Their best agent James Bond", they know he killed Dr. No because getting revenge would be and "added refinement" but most of all they even made a mask of his face for training in the pre titles sequence. Also if you think of the other films in Dr. No the doctor knew exactly who he was, as well as Largo in TB, his picture was plastered all over the papers in YOLT when he "died" and Blofeld didn't bat an eye when he was brought to his control room. So I've come to the conclusion we should get by, by just closing our eyes and thinking of England and just be glad they aren’t Craig films!
Never occurred to me. Its sort of like how they treated nuclear and rocket science just accept it in suspension of disbelief.

If these stories were realistic Bonds cover would be blown almost every where he went, like In DAD where he was betraid in a smart use of technology IMO. For example Craig's Spys behavior in the first 18 min of CR would have him retired permanently in reality, but CR is just so darn :roll: gritty and realistic :roll:
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Dr. No wrote:
dirtybenny wrote:You made some excellent points and I felt the same way. However after watching FRWL for the billionth time last month I realized Blofeld/Specter knew what Bond looked like the entire series. They have a photograph of him to show Tania, Kronstien knows exactly who M will send "Their best agent James Bond", they know he killed Dr. No because getting revenge would be and "added refinement" but most of all they even made a mask of his face for training in the pre titles sequence. Also if you think of the other films in Dr. No the doctor knew exactly who he was, as well as Largo in TB, his picture was plastered all over the papers in YOLT when he "died" and Blofeld didn't bat an eye when he was brought to his control room. So I've come to the conclusion we should get by, by just closing our eyes and thinking of England and just be glad they aren’t Craig films!
Never occurred to me. Its sort of like how they treated nuclear and rocket science just accept it in suspension of disbelief.

If these stories were realistic Bonds cover would be blown almost every where he went, like In DAD where he was betraid in a smart use of technology IMO. For example Craig's Spys behavior in the first 18 min of CR would have him retired permanently in reality, but CR is just so darn :roll: gritty and realistic :roll:
Your absolutely right it's extremely realistic for a spy to totally roid rage his way through an embassy full of armed guards! It's funny how the pre-craig bonds get so much flack for "lack of realism" and yet craig's are considered documentaries by so many. :roll:
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dirtybenny wrote:
Dr. No wrote:
dirtybenny wrote:You made some excellent points and I felt the same way. However after watching FRWL for the billionth time last month I realized Blofeld/Specter knew what Bond looked like the entire series. They have a photograph of him to show Tania, Kronstien knows exactly who M will send "Their best agent James Bond", they know he killed Dr. No because getting revenge would be and "added refinement" but most of all they even made a mask of his face for training in the pre titles sequence. Also if you think of the other films in Dr. No the doctor knew exactly who he was, as well as Largo in TB, his picture was plastered all over the papers in YOLT when he "died" and Blofeld didn't bat an eye when he was brought to his control room. So I've come to the conclusion we should get by, by just closing our eyes and thinking of England and just be glad they aren’t Craig films!
Never occurred to me. Its sort of like how they treated nuclear and rocket science just accept it in suspension of disbelief.

If these stories were realistic Bonds cover would be blown almost every where he went, like In DAD where he was betraid in a smart use of technology IMO. For example Craig's Spys behavior in the first 18 min of CR would have him retired permanently in reality, but CR is just so darn :roll: gritty and realistic :roll:
Your absolutely right it's extremely realistic for a spy to totally roid rage his way through an embassy full of armed guards! It's funny how the pre-craig bonds get so much flack for "lack of realism" and yet craig's are considered documentaries by so many. :roll:
Wasn't it the paper as well I though M had a front page picture of RamboBond? Could be mistaken I haven't watched CR since the movies
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