Would CR have made as much money without Craig?

[carl stromberg]

Casino Royale has done quite well at the box office (!). Is this due to the casting of Daniel Craig as Bond?

[FormerBondFan]

I would say so.

[ID]

There wasn't a lot in the cinema and Sony drummed up the hype with an aggressive campaign. I think they could have cast Kermit the Frog in Casino Royale and made money.

[The Sweeney]

There wasn't a lot in the cinema and Sony drummed up the hype with an aggressive campaign. I think they could have cast Kermit the Frog in Casino Royale and made money.

Funny, because I remember early last year, when the anti-Craig campaign was in full swing, the theory was back then that CR would bomb at the box office because Craig was in the film.

Now that opinion seems to have changed.

[Tubes]

Reasons why CR did so good:

It was a d**n good movie.
Great reviews out of the gate.
New actor
This site and the media reports about it.

I think that CR wouldn't have done so well if a less controversial choice played Bond. More along the lines of TWINE's gross.

[ID]

Ironically, I think the publicity during the production of the film did give it a curiosity factor.

[The Sweeney]

Ironically, I think the publicity during the production of the film did give it a curiosity factor.

Ironically, I also think this particular site gave it the curiosity factor too....

[Skywalker]

Firstly - Daniel Craig is a fine actor.

However, Casino Royale is probably the most over hyped Bond movie in years. In terms of true Bond quality this film 'stinks'. Martin Campbell turns Bond into the terminator.

Can anyone explain how the Bond most of us love has turned into an uncuffed, uncool robot?

I've heard the arguments that state it's Bond's early years and that the sophistication and touch of class will come in Bond 22. Give me a break, how is this going to happen, is Bond going to have a personality transplant?

Bond is supposed to be a former Commander in the Royal Navy. If this is the case how do you explain the lack of control, planning and overall level of professionalism in Craig's version of Bond?

In summation, DC could have been good. The problem is he wasn't. This is partly to do with him but mostly due to the feeble direction and that it is a poor Bond film.

[Harvey Wallbanger]

Firstly - Daniel Craig is a fine actor.

However, Casino Royale is probably the most over hyped Bond movie in years. In terms of true Bond quality this film 'stinks'. Martin Campbell turns Bond into the terminator.

In summation, DC could have been good. The problem is he wasn't. This is partly to do with him but mostly due to the feeble direction and that it is a poor Bond film.

Ditto
In casino Royale I didn’t see James Bond. This might be on purpose given the reboot. CR was a bad one to introduce a new Bond.
A better Director couldn't have hurt.

[Skywalker]

Firstly - Daniel Craig is a fine actor.

However, Casino Royale is probably the most over hyped Bond movie in years. In terms of true Bond quality this film 'stinks'. Martin Campbell turns Bond into the terminator.

In summation, DC could have been good. The problem is he wasn't. This is partly to do with him but mostly due to the feeble direction and that it is a poor Bond film.

Ditto
In casino Royale I didn’t see James Bond. This might be on purpose given the reboot. CR was a bad one to introduce a new Bond.
A better Director couldn't have hurt.

IMO Casino Royale is not a Bond film as we know and love. It's an average action movie that has no essence of Bond. Compare this to MI 3 (which was a great return to form for the MI franchise) and it does not come close. Compare DC's performance with that of Forrest Whittaker in the King of Scotland. FW gives a true acting performance that is head and shoulders above anything that DC did.

So in essence CR delivers a film that breaks from the Bond mould with a performance by DC that neither merits a superb perfomance or a likeable one IMO.

[Skywalker]

Hi

My MUM recently took me to see CR, i thought it was a weely good
film. My first Bond film i saw was DAD it was quite good but i fought
the actor who played Bond was a bit of a weed.
I am writin here because i waz told u fought DC was not a very good
Bond, but my mum said he was weely lovely.

Bye

[The Sweeney]

Firstly - Daniel Craig is a fine actor.

However, Casino Royale is probably the most over hyped Bond movie in years. In terms of true Bond quality this film 'stinks'. Martin Campbell turns Bond into the terminator.

Can anyone explain how the Bond most of us love has turned into an uncuffed, uncool robot?

I've heard the arguments that state it's Bond's early years and that the sophistication and touch of class will come in Bond 22. Give me a break, how is this going to happen, is Bond going to have a personality transplant?

Bond is supposed to be a former Commander in the Royal Navy. If this is the case how do you explain the lack of control, planning and overall level of professionalism in Craig's version of Bond?

In summation, DC could have been good. The problem is he wasn't. This is partly to do with him but mostly due to the feeble direction and that it is a poor Bond film.

Out of interest, what did you think of DAD?

[James]

Firstly - Daniel Craig is a fine actor.

I've heard the arguments that state it's Bond's early years and that the sophistication and touch of class will come in Bond 22. Give me a break, how is this going to happen, is Bond going to have a personality transplant?

Bond is supposed to be a former Commander in the Royal Navy. If this is the case how do you explain the lack of control, planning and overall level of professionalism in Craig's version of Bond?

The young Bond thing (which of course Craig was too old for anyway) was like a get out of jail card. If you say Craig didn't have the presence or suave of the other Bonds someone on the other side of the great divide can say "Well of course he didn't. He's a young, unpolished Bond earning his stripes." If Craig is still a morose semi-novice with rough edges in the next film it will border on the ridiculous because he'll be in his forties.

[Dr. No]

Casino Royale has done quite well at the box office (!). Is this due to the casting of Daniel Craig as Bond?

James Bond was the selling point. Put Fred Flintstone in as the star and it still would have done well and praised for being different.
Just wondering what could have been with another actor, a better know actor or a younger one truly taking us back to the beginning days.

[Skywalker]

Out of interest, what did you think of DAD?

DAD is a poor Bond film, but for different reasons.

[Skywalker]

Firstly - Daniel Craig is a fine actor.

I've heard the arguments that state it's Bond's early years and that the sophistication and touch of class will come in Bond 22. Give me a break, how is this going to happen, is Bond going to have a personality transplant?

Bond is supposed to be a former Commander in the Royal Navy. If this is the case how do you explain the lack of control, planning and overall level of professionalism in Craig's version of Bond?

The young Bond thing (which of course Craig was too old for anyway) was like a get out of jail card. If you say Craig didn't have the presence or suave of the other Bonds someone on the other side of the great divide can say "Well of course he didn't. He's a young, unpolished Bond earning his stripes." If Craig is still a morose semi-novice with rough edges in the next film it will border on the ridiculous because he'll be in his forties.

I just feel the timeline for changing his persona is too long. Remeber, this guy has been in the Royal Navy and has been recruited to secret service. DC displayed the military skills in terms of fighting ability really well, but where was the control, poise and discipline that would surely have been instilled in the forces?

[Jack Wade]

It's impossible to tell.

You Brosnan fanboys are going to say Pierce would've made just as much money as Craig did.

The thing audiences appreciate with Craig over Pierce is that Craig played a human Bond, something Brosnan never did.

Even though audiences liked CGI-loaded, senseless action movies during Brosnan's day, people now seem to appreciate realism.

I highly doubt this movie would have made more than $585 million with someone that can't act as well as DC in a more character piece-type Bond movie like CR.

[James]

I think realistic films like Casino Royale are the way to go. It was very realistic the way he climbed up that crane, jumped off onto a steel-girder , flew around on tanker trucks like Spider-Man, cracked jokes after being drugged, had a Hospital in the dashboard of his car, quickly recovered after being whacked in the cobblers, dodged a thousand bullets in an Embassy, beat up numerous guards who were twice the size of our new economy Bond, turned the heads of two planted women who looked young enough to be his daughters, held his breath underwater for ten minutes etc, etc,...

[Jack Wade]

I think realistic films like Casino Royale are the way to go. It was very realistic the way he climbed up that crane, jumped off onto a steel-girder , flew around on tanker trucks like Spider-Man, cracked jokes after being drugged, had a Hospital in the dashboard of his car, quickly recovered after being whacked in the cobblers, dodged a thousand bullets in an Embassy, beat up numerous guards who were twice the size of our new economy Bond, turned the heads of two planted women who looked young enough to be his daughters, held his breath underwater for ten minutes etc, etc,...

Ugh.

Most of what you talked about in CR is pretty realistic. Some parts of the crane fight aren't that realistic, but most of it as, as well as most of the tanker chase. Defribulators are commonplace in police cars in the UK, so why shouldn't Bond have one? Beating up a bunch of guards... hasn't Connery done that? Holding his breath for an extended period of time underwater... I think Brosnan did something similar in TWINE.

Okay, let's compare what Bond did in CR to what Bond did in DAD or other Brosnan Bond movies.

Yeah, you lose.

[ID]

I'm sure a Hugh Jackman or Clive Owen CR would have bombed.