Should Bond hand in his Licence To Kill

[Milton Krest]

Given that QOS has been a unmitigated disaster, do you think Bond should retire from future missions?

Do you think he has changed beyond all recognition?
Would you go and see any more "Craig Bond Films" following the Bourne trend?

[katied]

Given that QOS has been a unmitigated disaster, do you think Bond should retire from future missions?

No.

Do you think he has changed beyond all recognition?

No.

Would you go and see any more "Craig Bond Films" following the Bourne trend?

Probably.

[stockslivevan]

QOS was a disappointment, but it wasn't an "unmitigated disaster", that's an overexagerration that the anti-Craig wish were true or at least blind themselves into thinking it. An unmitigated disaster is a term more suited for TMWTGG and LTK, which were touted as the franchise killers until the films after came up.

Here's an interesting note: The Spy Who Loved Me did less in the States than Quantum of Solace if you adjust inflation numbers. Curious isn't it?

[katied]

Disappointment?Yes. Disaster?No. I liked it a lot more than I thought I was going to,though.

Can't get behind the "Fire Craig and put someone else in there" stuff, though.

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

James Bond has been AWOL since 2002 Milton. Hopefully he will return at a future date.

[oscartheman]

Do you think he has changed beyond all recognition? Yes as in hes no longer Bond.Recognizable as Bourne
Would you go and see any more "Craig Bond Films" following the Bourne trend?NO.Why settle for a copy when the original is so much better.

[FROSTY]

Here's an interesting note: The Spy Who Loved Me did less in the States than Quantum of Solace if you adjust inflation numbers. Curious isn't it?

Not really!

The Spy Who Loved Me = 200 U.S. Theatres
Quantum Of Solace = 3,500 U.S. Theatres

Dollar for dollar - unadjusted,
QOS did only 3.5 times the amount of business of TSWLM, playing in 17.5 times the amount of Theatres

*does a slow hand clap for Mr. Craig*

[bjmdds]

You can't fool Frosty.

[bjmdds]

Given that QOS has been a unmitigated disaster, do you think Bond should retire from future missions?

Do you think he has changed beyond all recognition?
Would you go and see any more "Craig Bond Films" following the Bourne trend?

MGW and Broccoli should step aside now and let Sony spend the money for an actor with a worldwide reputation like Jackman, instead of throwing out $200+ million on production costs to overshadow a rather boring, uninspiring,unattractive, and poor ambassador for the franchise, Daniel Craig.

[bjmdds]

Disappointment?Yes. Disaster?No. I liked it a lot more than I thought I was going to,though.

Can't get behind the "Fire Craig and put someone else in there" stuff, though.

You want Craig to remain now in the role MP?

[katied]

Yeah..sorry but even though I thought QOS was less than perfect I just can't get behind replacing him ASAP.

[stockslivevan]

Given that QOS has been a unmitigated disaster, do you think Bond should retire from future missions?

Do you think he has changed beyond all recognition?
Would you go and see any more "Craig Bond Films" following the Bourne trend?

MGW and Broccoli should step aside now and let Sony spend the money for an actor with a worldwide reputation like Jackman, instead of throwing out $200+ million on production costs to overshadow a rather boring, uninspiring,unattractive, and poor ambassador for the franchise, Daniel Craig.

I disagree. Craig's here to stay.

[stockslivevan]

Here's an interesting note: The Spy Who Loved Me did less in the States than Quantum of Solace if you adjust inflation numbers. Curious isn't it?

Not really!

Okay, let's talk modern films: Worldside adjusted it has done the same numbers as Tomorrow Never Dies and The World is Not Enough. What does that say?

[carl stromberg]

Okay, let's talk modern films: Worldside adjusted it has done the same numbers as Tomorrow Never Dies and The World is Not Enough. What does that say?

It says Tommorow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough would have made much more if they had received the benefit of Sony's marketing.

The thing is, Quantum had a bumper budget and a big marketing campaign, which means it has flopped.

[carl stromberg]

Here's an interesting note: The Spy Who Loved Me did less in the States than Quantum of Solace if you adjust inflation numbers. Curious isn't it?

Not really!

The Spy Who Loved Me = 200 U.S. Theatres
Quantum Of Solace = 3,500 U.S. Theatres

Dollar for dollar - unadjusted,
QOS did only 3.5 times the amount of business of TSWLM, playing in 17.5 times the amount of Theatres

*does a slow hand clap for Mr. Craig*

[Kristatos]

You want Craig to remain now in the role MP?

I can't speak for someone else, but personally, I think deluding yourself that Craig's firing and replacement with Hugh Jackman is imminent is a recipe for constant disappointment. I'm not happy about Craig being in the role, but I'm resigned to it for now. For me, this forum is more a place to vent my spleen than anything. I don't expect any change to come as a result of it.

[katied]

Kris,that's fine.No, I think it's putting a bandaid on the problem.

As several people here have pointed out, Craig's successor will come in for a lot of flack because people don't like him for whatever reason.It was the case with Craig and it would be the case with Jackman.Remember how upset people got when it was announced that Pierce wasn't coming back?For all of the dislike of him, you know there would be people that would be upset if Craig was fired.

[FROSTY]

Here's an interesting note: The Spy Who Loved Me did less in the States than Quantum of Solace if you adjust inflation numbers. Curious isn't it?

Not really!

The Spy Who Loved Me = 200 U.S. Theatres
Quantum Of Solace = 3,500 U.S. Theatres

Dollar for dollar - unadjusted,
QOS did only 3.5 times the amount of business of TSWLM, playing in 17.5 times the amount of Theatres

*does a slow hand clap for Mr. Craig*

TSWLM must surely have been pulling in some pretty big crowds?,
and it has to be remembered that this was all long before the birth of the multiplex, and the almighty opening weekend,
also it had to possibly battle for theatre space, as the unexpected success of STAR WARS had come along 6 weeks previous - a film that had gone from only 40 Theatres (!), to then hundreds!.

One can only imagine the kind of gigantic success that TSWLM might of had stateside, if it had of been served better in the amount of theatres showing it?.

[stockslivevan]

Okay, let's talk modern films: Worldside adjusted it has done the same numbers as Tomorrow Never Dies and The World is Not Enough. What does that say?

It says Tommorow Never Dies and The World Is Not Enough would have made much more if they had received the benefit of Sony's marketing.

The thing is, Quantum had a bumper budget and a big marketing campaign, which means it has flopped.

I don't know about you but I clearly remember the marketing for TND, it was one of the most hyped up films in 1997.

[Count_Lippe]

I'm not sure, but do we actually need more Bond movies?

Bond was mostly a thing of the 60s, at that time the movies were new, unique, exotic, sexually daring and so on.

Then Bond lived on thanks to the popularity of Roger Moore in the 70s and into the 80s.

After Dalton the series even stopped for several years, but they started making them again.

But to me the old magic has never really returned, not with Brosnan and certainly not with Craig.

Maybe the old movies are enough and the series should be put to rest?