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I liked it fine. It's not the UNCLE movie I would have made. Still, to me, Solo was recognizable (even if his background was changed). They took more liberties with Kuryakin, although Sam Rolfe's initial concept was Illya as "a big Slavic man."

Years ago, I had a notion for an "origin" movie. It was based on something mentioned in passing by villain G. Emory Partridge (George Sanders) in the first of his two appearance. If you had done something like that, you could still do a new story while still throwing the original fans a bone.
Their background alterations did bother me some, not enough to detract from the movie. I like they style, I like the music, they story was not quite there, however the director could have overcome the short coming by embracing how the movie should feel, like a Ian Fleming thriller.

I was hopeful The Man From Uncle could merge the new action movies with Fleming thriller, kind of disappointed myself because it feels like wasted effort to not pull it off. Sort of like the Doctor Who TV movie from the 90's. While I defend the movie alot of detractors love to hate, there was nobody behind the production ready to fight to get more made so in one way of looking at it is a waste of effort, however it did help keep Doctor Who alive and revitalized the books and audio dramas until the series could come back.
One of the best Solo moments was when Solo goes to see Victoria at her office. At one point, he's looking out that big window. In the corner of the shot, you can see they're taking the truck out of the water.

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I forgot if this has been posted here. Anyway, Daniel Craig is to be interviewed for 90 minutes starting at 10 pm ET in New York. It's part of The New Yorker Festival.

http://festival.newyorker.com/event/dan ... s-schmidle

We'll see if says much about Bond.
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Napoleon Solo wrote:I forgot if this has been posted here. Anyway, Daniel Craig is to be interviewed for 90 minutes starting at 10 pm ET in New York. It's part of The New Yorker Festival.

http://festival.newyorker.com/event/dan ... s-schmidle

We'll see if says much about Bond.
Well, the title is Beyond Bond, so....
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bjmdds wrote:Daniel Craig might not want to pick up James Bond’s martini again, but 007’s producers want him back.

“I know they’re hoping for him to come back,” “James Bond” executive producer Callum McDougall said on a BBC radio show, calling the British actor “absolutely the first choice” of producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson.

Craig, however, isn’t quite as interested. McDougall, who has worked on nine 007 movies, was asked if Craig would be returning. “I wish I knew,” he said. “We love Daniel. We would love Daniel to return as Bond. Without any question he is absolutely Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli’s first choice. I know they’re hoping for him to come back.” He added that if Craig is willing to join the next Bond movie the role would “absolutely” be his.

As has always been the case, Craig will be their first choice until he's not. That is to say just like with Pierce, they'll swear up and down how they want to keep him forever, until the next guy is lined up, then it's Daniel who?
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Napoleon Solo wrote:I forgot if this has been posted here. Anyway, Daniel Craig is to be interviewed for 90 minutes starting at 10 pm ET in New York. It's part of The New Yorker Festival.

http://festival.newyorker.com/event/dan ... s-schmidle

We'll see if says much about Bond.
did he say anything interesting as far as bond fans are concerned? I kinda think this is why they finally said officially Craig doesn't want to come back but we still love him to bits!!!


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dirtybenny wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Daniel Craig might not want to pick up James Bond’s martini again, but 007’s producers want him back.

“I know they’re hoping for him to come back,” “James Bond” executive producer Callum McDougall said on a BBC radio show, calling the British actor “absolutely the first choice” of producers Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson.

Craig, however, isn’t quite as interested. McDougall, who has worked on nine 007 movies, was asked if Craig would be returning. “I wish I knew,” he said. “We love Daniel. We would love Daniel to return as Bond. Without any question he is absolutely Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli’s first choice. I know they’re hoping for him to come back.” He added that if Craig is willing to join the next Bond movie the role would “absolutely” be his.

As has always been the case, Craig will be their first choice until he's not. That is to say just like with Pierce, they'll swear up and down how they want to keep him forever, until the next guy is lined up, then it's Daniel who?
I think she had her eye on Craig when she fired Brosnan but look at Craig in 2004, no way in hell he make it off the speed boat bouncing along the Thames River, Craig first said when he got the job he went to the gym for a year but the only officially announced his hire in late 2005, he said the part about the gym not long after he was announced., so I think he was hired a long time before we knew it, also adds to the story about them negotiating with Brosnan in bad faith never intending to sign him. Supposedly why he was so pissed off.


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Morning all. :yay:

So here we are - one year since SPECTRE was released, and no wiser on the next Bond film, or who will be playing him. Personally, I think Craig is done as Bond, and I would be looking forward to another actor playing the role now. I think the public are a little tired of Craig's tenure now too.

Looking back at his 4 films, CR was definitely the best film. After that there were fleeting moments in his other 3 films, but nothing hit the mark like his first outing.

Babs and Wilson need to let go of the reigns and bring in creatives who understand the character better than they do, and return to the untapped materials from the Fleming novels, instead of trying to cobble together a script from scratch. History proves that ever since Maibaum left in 1989, they have struggled to come up with a decent script on their own, with exception to CR in 2006, and only then because it relied heavily on the novel.
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Hi Sweeney!

IMO they have two problems one is getting a good script the other is modernizing Bond. Original stories like QOS tried too hard to be relevant to modern times and matter to political attitudes which never last more than a few weeks. Even GE was a desperate attempt to make Bond matter more to women and be politically correct which is a little more forgivable than dipping a toe in politics.

Maybe following the book series is what saved the early movies, if they had to come up with original stories before 1980 maybe they would have a system for doing it .

Should they think about buy the rights to the bond novels as a platform for new movies?




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Omega wrote:Hi Sweeney!

IMO they have two problems one is getting a good script the other is modernizing Bond. Original stories like QOS tried too hard to be relevant to modern times and matter to political attitudes which never last more than a few weeks. Even GE was a desperate attempt to make Bond matter more to women and be politically correct which is a little more forgivable than dipping a toe in politics.

Maybe following the book series is what saved the early movies, if they had to come up with original stories before 1980 maybe they would have a system for doing it .

Should they think about buy the rights to the bond novels as a platform for new movies?




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I think Trigger Mortis may convert nicely into a movie, but before they do that they should exhaust the previously untapped Fleming material - the majority of MR and DAF, TSWLM, YOLT and TMWTGG. There is enough material there to stretch across at least 2 movies.

Unfortunately the producers don't have the balls to go back to the books, and think they can come up with better storylines themselves. I read somewhere that P&W tried to use the opening to TMWTGG for Skyfall, but that got ditched for the unrealistic crap we eventually ended up with instead - Bond going AWOL after a fall off a train that should have killed him.

How that is better than a brainwashed Bond trying to kill M beats me.
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Didn't Fleming say he never wanted TSWLM to be a movie?
Should they ignore that or do what most of Hollywood does and loosely base a story on it?

P&W get so much push back and blame for script trouble from fans but when not involved in the script process EON has to beg them to come back.


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The mantra "We are going back to Fleming" has been repeated so many times by now it means nothing. That was just a response whenever someone asked why this and this was changed since the reboot up to now. Why is
Bond suddenly being played by short,blond,charismaless actor who can't crack a smile even if his life depended on it? We are going back to Fleming!Why is Bond alluding do past homosexual experiences? We are going back to Fleming! Why is Brofeld Bond's brother now? We are going back to Fleming! It was a nice cover up and unfortunately a bunch of people fell for it.
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The Sweeney wrote:Morning all. :yay:

So here we are - one year since SPECTRE was released, and no wiser on the next Bond film, or who will be playing him. Personally, I think Craig is done as Bond, and I would be looking forward to another actor playing the role now. I think the public are a little tired of Craig's tenure now too.

Looking back at his 4 films, CR was definitely the best film. After that there were fleeting moments in his other 3 films, but nothing hit the mark like his first outing.

Babs and Wilson need to let go of the reigns and bring in creatives who understand the character better than they do, and return to the untapped materials from the Fleming novels, instead of trying to cobble together a script from scratch. History proves that ever since Maibaum left in 1989, they have struggled to come up with a decent script on their own, with exception to CR in 2006, and only then because it relied heavily on the novel.
Sweeney, this obsession by Broccoli over Cr-egg is now pathological and is clouding her ability to be rational. Cr-egg is yesterday's trash :!: Aidan Turner is the Bond future IF the green vegetable comes to her senses and tells her hormones to back off Cr-egg and focus on the 7th 007! Do you like Turner?
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The Sweeney wrote:Babs and Wilson need to let go of the reigns and bring in creatives who understand the character better than they do, and return to the untapped materials from the Fleming novels, instead of trying to cobble together a script from scratch.
We agree on something.
History proves that ever since Maibaum left in 1989, they have struggled to come up with a decent script on their own, with exception to CR in 2006, and only then because it relied heavily on the novel.
You may disagree if you like, but let's not forget that GE is one of the best in the eyes of the majority.
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bjmdds wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:Morning all. :yay:

So here we are - one year since SPECTRE was released, and no wiser on the next Bond film, or who will be playing him. Personally, I think Craig is done as Bond, and I would be looking forward to another actor playing the role now. I think the public are a little tired of Craig's tenure now too.

Looking back at his 4 films, CR was definitely the best film. After that there were fleeting moments in his other 3 films, but nothing hit the mark like his first outing.

Babs and Wilson need to let go of the reigns and bring in creatives who understand the character better than they do, and return to the untapped materials from the Fleming novels, instead of trying to cobble together a script from scratch. History proves that ever since Maibaum left in 1989, they have struggled to come up with a decent script on their own, with exception to CR in 2006, and only then because it relied heavily on the novel.
Sweeney, this obsession by Broccoli over Cr-egg is now pathological and is clouding her ability to be rational. Cr-egg is yesterday's trash :!: Aidan Turner is the Bond future IF the green vegetable comes to her senses and tells her hormones to back off Cr-egg and focus on the 7th 007! Do you like Turner?
BJ, did you pay attention to what Sweenster said? He said Babs needs to go, not just DC.
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Why do you want more Bond movies? Every single movie for the past 30 years have been crap, what makes you think they'll get it right this time?

You'll only end up with yet another Bond movie to get upset about. :roll: :happy spin: :lol:
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bjmdds wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:Morning all. :yay:

So here we are - one year since SPECTRE was released, and no wiser on the next Bond film, or who will be playing him. Personally, I think Craig is done as Bond, and I would be looking forward to another actor playing the role now. I think the public are a little tired of Craig's tenure now too.

Looking back at his 4 films, CR was definitely the best film. After that there were fleeting moments in his other 3 films, but nothing hit the mark like his first outing.

Babs and Wilson need to let go of the reigns and bring in creatives who understand the character better than they do, and return to the untapped materials from the Fleming novels, instead of trying to cobble together a script from scratch. History proves that ever since Maibaum left in 1989, they have struggled to come up with a decent script on their own, with exception to CR in 2006, and only then because it relied heavily on the novel.
Sweeney, this obsession by Broccoli over Cr-egg is now pathological and is clouding her ability to be rational. Cr-egg is yesterday's trash :!: Aidan Turner is the Bond future IF the green vegetable comes to her senses and tells her hormones to back off Cr-egg and focus on the 7th 007! Do you like Turner?
I'd be happy with Aiden Turner, but I think the producers need to bow out. They don't know what they are doing anymore.
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How do we get them out? Order 66 by FBF, or an MGM coup of their ownership, or do they have an epiphany and leave voluntarily?
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FBF, READ THIS AT ONCE! It's been almost five years since the last "Harry Potter" flick, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2," hit theaters, and that gap has weighed heavily on Potterheads. Thankfully, 2016 has brought forth a wealth of new "Potter" content, from the hit sequel play "Harry Potter and the Cursed Child" to the upcoming prequel film, "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them," due out in November.

In celebration of that latter event, Warner Bros. plans to re-release the original "Potter" movies for a limited engagement later this month. The studio is partnering with Imax for a one-week run of all eight HP flicks, beginning on October 13.

The event will be shown in Imax's 2D format, and will also feature exclusive content from "Fantastic Beasts," including recorded remarks from that film's star, Eddie Redmayne, and other cast members. The re-release will mark the first time that the first two "Potter" films, "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" and "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets," will be made available in the Imax format..........will you go see them AGAIN this month? It looks like Fantastic Beasts might top $1 billion now IMHO :!: The world is Potter starved! :up:------Boxoffice Pro long range forecasts in the table below: I think they are too low.

Title-- Release Date-- Distributor ---------------------------------Opening Weekend USA---Cumulative USA
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them---- Nov 18, 2016--- Warner Bros.-- $78,000,000---$210,000,000
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Den Of Geek has it more in line I believe: Predicted USA Opening: $95 million----------Predicted USA Gross: $300 million
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The Sweeney wrote:
bjmdds wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:Morning all. :yay:

So here we are - one year since SPECTRE was released, and no wiser on the next Bond film, or who will be playing him. Personally, I think Craig is done as Bond, and I would be looking forward to another actor playing the role now. I think the public are a little tired of Craig's tenure now too.

Looking back at his 4 films, CR was definitely the best film. After that there were fleeting moments in his other 3 films, but nothing hit the mark like his first outing.

Babs and Wilson need to let go of the reigns and bring in creatives who understand the character better than they do, and return to the untapped materials from the Fleming novels, instead of trying to cobble together a script from scratch. History proves that ever since Maibaum left in 1989, they have struggled to come up with a decent script on their own, with exception to CR in 2006, and only then because it relied heavily on the novel.
Sweeney, this obsession by Broccoli over Cr-egg is now pathological and is clouding her ability to be rational. Cr-egg is yesterday's trash :!: Aidan Turner is the Bond future IF the green vegetable comes to her senses and tells her hormones to back off Cr-egg and focus on the 7th 007! Do you like Turner?
I'd be happy with Aiden Turner, but I think the producers need to bow out. They don't know what they are doing anymore.
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