The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by **bjmdds** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:50 pm

I just watched SW FBF. My review: acceptable followup to Episode 6 but I do not find this installment to be as marvelous as the hysteria surrounding it. The plot was moronic with the villain being the offspring of 2 iconic characters, and there was really no backstory as why the villain became who he did, other than a few sentences here and there. I found the Kylo Ren actor, who looks like Snape by the way, to be amateurish, and the Rey actress looks just like Natalie Portman for the obvious reason just staring the audience in their faces. It's also obvious as to who Finn's character is descended from, being another unknown orphan in SW history. Abrams wanted diversity and feminism to be the ingredient in the 2 lead roles, as he stated in interviews. For me, it's popularity is more based on a yearning for nostalgia, rather than how great this lame plot was received. The sequel won't top this box office IMO. It was OK, but to me, it was nothing spectacular. The Captain America :Civil War film will be a better plot, but will NOT come close to the fascination of the masses to this SW return to yesteryear.

Post by **English Agent** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:52 pm

FormerBondFan wrote:
bjmdds wrote:I hate crowds FBF. The theaters are still too packed here.
Then wait until the crowd dies down a bit. You buying SP bootleg is fine. But Episode 7? That thing is best to be watched in theaters.

When i saw SWTFA in the UK a little while back, i was stunned to see that there was only one other person in the theater watching the film.

I enjoyed watching SWTFA just as much at home online (oops!) as i did in the cinema. Maybe if u see the film at a cinema, maybe best to see it in 3D to get the full effect.

Post by **bjmdds** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:59 pm

EA, for me, PLOT is everything, and political correctness is not justified in any casting of actors, for it is obviously done to appease groups, instead of following the past traditions of iconic film genres. These days, anything goes and you just have to look at what EON did with it's casting and storylines. Look at the complaints today against the so-called liberal elitists in the Oscar Academy who only nominated white actors and actresses yet these same elitist liberals always claim to be so diverse and proper. They are all full of you know what

Chris Rock will have a field day with racial jokes hosting the Oscars next month.......... http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.2500532 The comic actor is facing pressure to bow out as host of the 88th annual Oscars — with less than six weeks to go before the Feb. 28 telecast — over the mounting calls for boycotting the awards in response to the lack of diversity among the Oscar nominees. On Monday’s holiday celebrating Martin Luther King Jr., both Spike Lee and Jada Pinkett Smith announced they would not be attending the Academy Awards to protest a second straight year without a black actor receiving a single nomination.

Post by **bjmdds** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:12 pm

World number one Novak Djokovic said he was approached to fix a match earlier in his career on Monday as allegations of corruption in tennis rocked the start of the Australian Open.
The BBC and BuzzFeed claimed 16 players who had reached the top 50 in the past decade, including Grand Slam champions, had been repeatedly suspected of fixing matches for betting syndicates.

The report prompted a swift denial from authorities that any evidence of match-fixing had been suppressed, as well as speculation over the identities of the players involved.

Djokovic, after opening with a win over South Korea's Chung Hyeon, played down the report but he also said he was targeted in 2007 to throw a first-round match at St Petersburg.

"I was not approached directly. I was approached through people that were working with me at that time," he told reporters in Melbourne.

Post by **FormerBondFan** » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:58 pm

bjmdds wrote:I just watched SW FBF. My review: acceptable followup to Episode 6 but I do not find this installment to be as marvelous as the hysteria surrounding it. The plot was moronic with the villain being the offspring of 2 iconic characters, and there was really no backstory as why the villain became who he did, other than a few sentences here and there. I found the Kylo Ren actor, who looks like Snape by the way, to be amateurish, and the Rey actress looks just like Natalie Portman for the obvious reason just staring the audience in their faces. It's also obvious as to who Finn's character is descended from, being another unknown orphan in SW history. Abrams wanted diversity and feminism to be the ingredient in the 2 lead roles, as he stated in interviews. For me, it's popularity is more based on a yearning for nostalgia, rather than how great this lame plot was received. The sequel won't top this box office IMO. It was OK, but to me, it was nothing spectacular. The Captain America :Civil War film will be a better plot, but will NOT come close to the fascination of the masses to this SW return to yesteryear.

If you're going to buy bootlegs for SW, why don't you do the same for Captain America? Bootlegs are best FAT Seagal films or Craig Bonds, NOT SW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **FormerBondFan** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:08 am

English Agent wrote:Maybe if u see the film at a cinema, maybe best to see it in 3D to get the full effect.

Tell that to BJ, EA. He has committed a heinous crime of not seeing at the cinema but through bootleg which is best for FAT Seagal films.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFBN_JgXHdg[/video]

Post by **Omega** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:21 am

Wow fbf .! You Might buy a ticket in place of Bj

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Post by **FormerBondFan** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:26 am

Omega wrote:Wow fbf .! You Might buy a ticket in place of Bj

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This isn't the prequels anymore. Come on.

Post by **Omega** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:27 am

Maybe Bj is that guy on the news driving around with that spoiler on his back glass

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Post by **FormerBondFan** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:34 am

If I must say, BJ no longer makes any sense. Seriously though.

Post by **bjmdds** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:55 am

Calm down FBF. These are just movies to enjoy or hate. When the theaters are less crowded here MAYBE I will witness SW in IMAX. Did you find the plot premise lacking in SW? The villain was too simplistic and unoriginal.

Post by **FormerBondFan** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:00 am

bjmdds wrote:When the theaters are less crowded here MAYBE I will witness SW in IMAX.

Then you better do it now.

Did you find the plot premise lacking in SW? The villain was too simplistic and unoriginal.

The sequels are just getting started. Plot premise lacking? You might try this:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRVD32rnzOw[/video]

I see a Batman & Robin route on this though I'll give it a chance. If you decide to watch a bootleg on this, now that would make sense.

Post by **kater23** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:47 am

Sorry to say, I really do agree with everyone that's said SW:TFA is better viewed in a theater first time around(that being said, I WILL be buying it-legally-when the Blu Ray comes out.)

Post by **Kristatos** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:58 am

Planning on seeing it tomorrow on the X-Plus screen (Showcase's brand name for the "large format but not IMAX" screens that every cinema chain seems to have now). There's no IMAX screen in Bristol any more - I think the nearest one is in Cardiff.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:46 pm

bjmdds wrote:EA, for me, PLOT is everything, and political correctness is not justified in any casting of actors, for it is obviously done to appease groups, instead of following the past traditions of iconic film genres. These days, anything goes and you just have to look at what EON did with it's casting and storylines. Look at the complaints today against the so-called liberal elitists in the Oscar Academy who only nominated white actors and actresses yet these same elitist liberals always claim to be so diverse and proper. They are all full of you know what Chris Rock will have a field day with racial jokes hosting the Oscars next month.......... http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainmen ... -1.2500532 The comic actor is facing pressure to bow out as host of the 88th annual Oscars — with less than six weeks to go before the Feb. 28 telecast — over the mounting calls for boycotting the awards in response to the lack of diversity among the Oscar nominees. On Monday’s holiday celebrating Martin Luther King Jr., both Spike Lee and Jada Pinkett Smith announced they would not be attending the Academy Awards to protest a second straight year without a black actor receiving a single nomination.

So now even Oscars are connected to racism? America has gone insane. They should remember that Lupita Nyong'o and that other actor whose name I can't pronounce got Oscars and "12 years a slave" got Oscar for best film if I remember correctly.
And its insane to connect this with racism. INSANE. Because of people like this we have discussions about black Bond!

Post by **Omega** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:21 pm

Imo the problem with the Oscars is not racism although who really knows. It's the selection process is crap, big blockbuster innovative movies never get the respect the deserve even though the pay for the rest of the movies that lost money to be made and are popular with the people.

Imo there is a disconnect between the movies and actors nominated and what people who go to movies think. There's a motivation to the awards I just don't get.

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Post by **Kristatos** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:41 pm

Well. the Oscars were never meant to be a popularity contest, though blockbuster movies do win Oscars, like Titanic or Return of the King. The board does have a rather safe, predictable view of what constitutes "quality" filmmaking, though, like when they rewarded Forrest Gump over Pulp Fiction.

Post by **Omega** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:53 pm

Kristatos wrote:Well. the Oscars were never meant to be a popularity contest, though blockbuster movies do win Oscars, like Titanic or Return of the King. The board does have a rather safe, predictable view of what constitutes "quality" filmmaking, though, like when they rewarded Forrest Gump over Pulp Fiction.

Return of the King they honored because it was thought to be the last lotr film.
How are the oscars not a popularity contest? That's the only reason Adele was nominated.
I get what you mean though, they aren't popularity contest when it comes to movies people actually pay to see. If they were star wars would have swept them a long time ago.

I still think there is a big disconnect between the people who make the movies and the people who the movies are made for.

When thinking back on Oscar winners several years later I can't understand why they won. Maybe in the year the come out they were interesting maybe unique but looked back on they really don't hold up IMO.

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Post by **Kristatos** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:03 pm

Omega wrote: When thinking back on Oscar winners several years later I can't understand why they won. Maybe in the year the come out they were interesting maybe unique but looked back on they really don't hold up IMO.

Short answer, they're not voted on years later. You mention Star Wars, and people often wonder how it lost out to Annie Hall in the Best Picture category. But it's not really that much of a mystery. At the time, Woody Allen had been noted for gag-based comedies, and him entering a more mature phase like that was always far more likely to grab the Academy's attention than a slice of pulpy B-movie sci-fi for kids, however much money it made at the box office.

Post by **Omega** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:27 pm

You mentioned forest gump and pulp fiction , nobody gives a crap about gump, pulp fiction still has a influence on society and movies. IMO that was clear in the year they both came out

But it's as you said. Still I think the process is to disconnected from reality if that word can be applied to movies.
Avatar deserved best director, hurt locker didn't but for whatever reason the academy didn't want to acknowledge it.

Far as racism I think it's more the voters being isolated from the movies that really moved people and they are looking too closely at the details of making a movie.

I think Stallone will win just to say sorry for screwing you over in 1977.

Although I wonder why mad max has so many nominations?

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