The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[bjmdds]

They should keep their fake mouths shut and stop spewing this garbage already. The 7th 007 will define the end or the re-emergence of the true Fleming character, and it rests with Broccoli unfortuately. I will be eagerly awaiting her next decision to see what, if anything, she has learned from her prior decisions.

[Veronica]

They should keep their fake mouths shut and stop spewing this garbage already. The 7th 007 will define the end or the re-emergence of the true Fleming character, and it rests with Broccoli unfortuately. I will be eagerly awaiting her next decision to see what, if anything, she has learned from her prior decisions.

She learned nothing.Because she made one hell of a PR for Skyfall and probably paid the critics to write positive reviews(Skyfall being best Bond ever?Yeah,right.) and made a f**king billion.She is just going to continue with this garbage until the day Craig really has enough(didn't he say how he wanted to get out of Bond as soon he into the whole thing?)...but I don't know if that day will actually come.I mean,Craig doesn't have a career out of Bond and he knows it.Really he made like two movies since 2006 outside Bond and they flopped big time on the box office.He may find Bond acting "boring"(to quote him) but making huge money sure as hell isn't boring to anybody.

[Omega]

She also said kissing Craig was like kissing her father


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[Kristatos]

She also said kissing Craig was like kissing her father


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Which gives her remarks a slightly different context to most of the calls for Idris as Bond. With her, though it was not her intent, it comes across like "Craig is so bad, even Idris Elba would be better".

[Omega]

I like idris he a much cooler guy that I never think will be offered the job. He's the pc flavor of the month right now. To me it wouldn't be as major a shakeup as Craig was and is. But the history of the character is something to consider. Part of the reason Craig is so wrong , the bond history cannery Dalton and Brosnan had is gone . At the same time how about eon use there might to make an original black hero spy series


I don't think she had an opinion on bond really aside from not finding Craig attractive ( to her). Wasn't she the one who married the stand it?


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[Alessandra]

MGM is MUCH more powerful now and they're the ones who will have more power because well... Sony is fucked at this point, to put it bluntly, excuse my French.
And with Pascal gone, things anyway are going to become a LOT less easy for Broccoli.

Then Sony and Barbara Broccoli are truly hosed. I look forward to their comedy of errors.
Speaking of which...that teaser poster with Daniel Putin Craig has a cheapskate, low budget aura. This Rothman chap must have had a nervous breakdown when he learned Spectre is costing $300 million or so.

Let's put it this way. Today profits for the studios were released by The Hollywood Reporter. SONY DID NOT REPORT, and because these people are not financial reporters, unlike yours truly who despite being a SPORTS one has WIDELY reported on finance too, cause when one works at Bloomberg, that's inevitable, LOL, they didn't do their job to ask Sony for the figures and reported absolutely MEANINGLESS stuff like "Oh Sony had OPERATING INCOME of so and so" which means NOTHING. Rule of thumb: the ONLY thing that matters when you read company balance sheets? IS THE NET PROFIT. NET, not gross, not pretax not pre anything. NET PROFIT. Or net loss. THAT is the only thing that tells you if a company is actually making money or not. And that must be compared to estimates, what it was the year before, etc.
So everyone had billions of profit, with Disney being the most profitable studio, and on Sony? THERE WAS ONLY THIS (I am going to investigate and find out what loss they actually had, cause it's clear they had a loss):

"The hack related to the release of The Interview dented Sony's 2014 profits by about $15 million and caused the conglomerate to delay its calendar fourth-quarter earnings report, which was finally released March 16. For the year, the studio's operating income was up 66 percent to $522 million on revenue that rose 2 percent to $8.06 billion. A restructuring saved $130 million during the comp­any's fiscal year ended March 2014, but a $106 million gain from the sale of music publishing in 2013 made comparisons tough, and disappointment The Amazing Spider-Man 2 didn't help (and prompted the ouster of co-chair Amy Pascal as much as her leaked emails). In TV, Sony is humming with AMC's Better Call Saul, Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy."

So let me repeat: Sony is done. And with this financial situation, NO DOUBT the Rothman dude had a fit over the ridiculously bloated costs for the movie that were NOT cut per MGM's sensible request. Guess the posters show how the cuts are definitely coming now

[Alessandra]

In addition to the plain ineptitude of Mendes and Barbara Broccoli's manic control-freak issues, there's another reason why Spectre has a haphazard production, with the script being written on the fly. Studio bosses at Sony and MGM got $20 mil in tax incentives from the Mexican government to put the country in good light. In other words, you've got the Mexican government dictating the script. An article from taxanalysts.com describes the turmoil behind the scenes. Excerpts:

A month after they were scheduled to start filming, the producers of the upcoming James Bond film got an e-mail from studio executives with what must have been a frustrating directive: the script needed rewriting.

"We are currently facing a budget that is far beyond what we anticipated and are under immense pressure to reduce the number to $250M net of rebates and incentives," wrote Jonathan Glickman, president of MGM's motion picture group. "This is not about 'nickel and diming' the production. As of now, our shooting period is $50M higher than Skyfall and the current gross budget sits in the mid $300Ms, making this one of the most expensive films ever made."

In the case of Spectre, the [hacked e-mails] suggest that the film's lavish budget put the studio, which did not respond to Tax Analysts' request for comment, in a position in which it was so desperate to save money that it allowed itself to cede some level of creative control to foreign bureaucrats.

It's not unusual for film incentives to come with strings attached.... But the changes to Spectre appear to go well beyond that, with the studio permitting Mexican authorities to make casting decisions, dictate characters' ethnicities, and even change the occupation of an unnamed character that never appears on-screen or figures into the story outside of the opening scene.... But they raise thorny questions about the extent of the government's authority to interfere with artistic endeavors.

http://www.taxanalysts.com/www/features ... enDocument

A hilarious bit: "...although Mexican officials wanted to see their citizens in the film, they were sensitive about how they might be portrayed." Well, there's not much to present in terms of Mexican citizenry. About 90% of them are in California.

Thank you for posting this, I had seen it and meant to post it but then forgot.
So we're making a movie with the money of a government that is SO corrupt they have the country in the hands of drug cartels, which means this is a movie being made with drug cartels money. And I say this with a heavy heart and thanks to my Mexican friend whose father was a politician and had to stop or they'd have killed him, so I'm not being stereotypical or anything here... I'm worried and sad.
The situation in Mexico is TRAGIC and they give 20 million dollars to Bond?
By all means... guess the bad guys in the movie are actual ones in real life in this case.

[Kristatos]

I like idris he a much cooler guy that I never think will be offered the job.

Idris is great. I just don't want him as Bond.

[The Sweeney]

I like idris he a much cooler guy that I never think will be offered the job.

Idris is great. I just don't want him as Bond.

I think most people think this, Kris, even the ones like Gemma or Brosnan, who have so obviously been put on the spot by a journalist with a mic shoved in their face, and asked whether they would like a black Bond.

There is no way on earth any of them would say `No', in this day and age of PC gone mad....

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

anyone interested in Cavill's new franchise??? aka Stratton

http://www.filmoria.co.uk/2015/03/inter ... wild-card/

I have posted about this a few times already. I am a fan of the book series, and am surprised that it has taken this long for a movie adaption to happen. Like the Benson Bond books, they are written as action thrillers. I am uncertain of Cavill, I think he lack the toughness for Statton. But who knows, if he bulks up and undergoes all the required weapons and combat training, he might surprise me. I do hope that this will become a series, as the fourth book, Undersea Prison, is my favourite of the 8 books.

[Alessandra]

I like idris he a much cooler guy that I never think will be offered the job.

Idris is great. I just don't want him as Bond.

I think most people think this, Kris, even the ones like Gemma or Brosnan, who have so obviously been put on the spot by a journalist with a mic shoved in their face, and asked whether they would like a black Bond.

There is no way on earth any of them would say `No', in this day and age of PC gone mad....

I completely agree, Sweeney. They say what they have to say in this context, period.

[Alessandra]

anyone interested in Cavill's new franchise??? aka Stratton

http://www.filmoria.co.uk/2015/03/inter ... wild-card/

I have posted about this a few times already. I am a fan of the book series, and am surprised that it has taken this long for a movie adaption to happen. Like the Benson Bond books, they are written as action thrillers. I am uncertain of Cavill, I think he lack the toughness for Statton. But who knows, if he bulks up and undergoes all the required weapons and combat training, he might surprise me. I do hope that this will become a series, as the fourth book, Undersea Prison, is my favourite of the 8 books.

You have got to be KIDDING ME about BULKING UP? He is HUGE haven't you seen what he has done for Superman? LOL That wasn't the suit, that was his own muscles. His ridiculous body regime was everywhere for how he has every vein popping up everywhere on his body and muscles. He doesn't need any bulking up of any kind, he may actually need more stretching to be more lean. Definitely NO more bulking up. He's close to looking like Hulk rather than Superman already. Also, Cavill is already arms trained. He did that for real in real life, when in school.

[Kristatos]

Gemma seemed to have brought up the subject, though. She sounded quite smitten with Idris. Can't really blame her for that, I suppose.

[tehmanis]

anyone interested in Cavill's new franchise??? aka Stratton

http://www.filmoria.co.uk/2015/03/inter ... wild-card/

I have posted about this a few times already. I am a fan of the book series, and am surprised that it has taken this long for a movie adaption to happen. Like the Benson Bond books, they are written as action thrillers. I am uncertain of Cavill, I think he lack the toughness for Statton. But who knows, if he bulks up and undergoes all the required weapons and combat training, he might surprise me. I do hope that this will become a series, as the fourth book, Undersea Prison, is my favourite of the 8 books.

I can't wait to see Stratton in cinema probably this can be better than James Bond

btw if this stratton indeed become a new franchise for Cavill, and it would be another sequels to be made, does this means it would hurt Cavill eligibility to become 007???

[Veronica]

I like idris he a much cooler guy that I never think will be offered the job.

Idris is great. I just don't want him as Bond.

I think most people think this, Kris, even the ones like Gemma or Brosnan, who have so obviously been put on the spot by a journalist with a mic shoved in their face, and asked whether they would like a black Bond.



There is no way on earth any of them would say `No', in this day and age of PC gone mad....

Exactly. If they said no they would be called racist.

[bjmdds]

anyone interested in Cavill's new franchise??? aka Stratton

http://www.filmoria.co.uk/2015/03/inter ... wild-card/

I have posted about this a few times already. I am a fan of the book series, and am surprised that it has taken this long for a movie adaption to happen. Like the Benson Bond books, they are written as action thrillers. I am uncertain of Cavill, I think he lack the toughness for Statton. But who knows, if he bulks up and undergoes all the required weapons and combat training, he might surprise me. I do hope that this will become a series, as the fourth book, Undersea Prison, is my favourite of the 8 books.

You have got to be KIDDING ME about BULKING UP? He is HUGE haven't you seen what he has done for Superman? LOL That wasn't the suit, that was his own muscles. His ridiculous body regime was everywhere for how he has every vein popping up everywhere on his body and muscles. He doesn't need any bulking up of any kind, he may actually need more stretching to be more lean. Definitely NO more bulking up. He's close to looking like Hulk rather than Superman already. Also, Cavill is already arms trained. He did that for real in real life, when in school.

I thought the same thing. How much more bulk does he require? He is too big already............ Routh: ...........vs. Cavill:

[bjamesobrad]

http://screenrant.com/james-bond-servic ... i-shankar/

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

anyone interested in Cavill's new franchise??? aka Stratton

http://www.filmoria.co.uk/2015/03/inter ... wild-card/

I have posted about this a few times already. I am a fan of the book series, and am surprised that it has taken this long for a movie adaption to happen. Like the Benson Bond books, they are written as action thrillers. I am uncertain of Cavill, I think he lack the toughness for Statton. But who knows, if he bulks up and undergoes all the required weapons and combat training, he might surprise me. I do hope that this will become a series, as the fourth book, Undersea Prison, is my favourite of the 8 books.

You have got to be KIDDING ME about BULKING UP? He is HUGE haven't you seen what he has done for Superman? LOL That wasn't the suit, that was his own muscles. His ridiculous body regime was everywhere for how he has every vein popping up everywhere on his body and muscles. He doesn't need any bulking up of any kind, he may actually need more stretching to be more lean. Definitely NO more bulking up. He's close to looking like Hulk rather than Superman already. Also, Cavill is already arms trained. He did that for real in real life, when in school.

You'll have to forgive me, I don't go looking for shirtless pics of Henry Cavill. Though I had no idea that he has already has had firearms training. If it's any consolation, this is one Cavill film that I will go to see on the big screen.

[Omega]

http://screenrant.com/james-bond-servic ... i-shankar/

that was actually pretty good. More thought provoking than what the current bond is doing


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[Omega]

anyone interested in Cavill's new franchise??? aka Stratton

http://www.filmoria.co.uk/2015/03/inter ... wild-card/

I have posted about this a few times already. I am a fan of the book series, and am surprised that it has taken this long for a movie adaption to happen. Like the Benson Bond books, they are written as action thrillers. I am uncertain of Cavill, I think he lack the toughness for Statton. But who knows, if he bulks up and undergoes all the required weapons and combat training, he might surprise me. I do hope that this will become a series, as the fourth book, Undersea Prison, is my favourite of the 8 books.

You have got to be KIDDING ME about BULKING UP? He is HUGE haven't you seen what he has done for Superman? LOL That wasn't the suit, that was his own muscles. His ridiculous body regime was everywhere for how he has every vein popping up everywhere on his body and muscles. He doesn't need any bulking up of any kind, he may actually need more stretching to be more lean. Definitely NO more bulking up. He's close to looking like Hulk rather than Superman already. Also, Cavill is already arms trained. He did that for real in real life, when in school.

You'll have to forgive me, I don't go looking for shirtless pics of Henry Cavill. Though I had no idea that he has already has had firearms training. If it's any consolation, this is one Cavill film that I will go to see on the big screen.

Speaking of fire arms training apparently Eon sent Sam worthyington to fire arms training he thought they were going to hire him for bond in 2005.


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