The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[bjmdds]

Well, well well She has returned after a hiatus I have not seen it yet but I am hoping it surpasses Sk-Awful here at the box office. I know it won't top it internationally though for Superman is not that huge internationally. I want to know your opinion of the arrogant Broccoli's latest statements about Cr-egg remaining as Bond for a LONG time and how he is the most gorgeous hunk of humanity on this planet She has an unhealthy obsession with the crumb and I don't see her letting go of him until Sony puts a halt to her madness. Remember, all work and no play is not a good rule to follow so fit relaxation into your busy schedule as well

[Alessandra]

Well, well well She has returned after a hiatus I have not seen it yet but I am hoping it surpasses Sk-Awful here at the box office. I know it won't top it internationally though for Superman is not that huge internationally. I want to know your opinion of the arrogant Broccoli's latest statements about Cr-egg remaining as Bond for a LONG time and how he is the most gorgeous hunk of humanity on this planet She has an unhealthy obsession with the crumb and I don't see her letting go of him until Sony puts a halt to her madness. Remember, all work and no play is not a good rule to follow so fit relaxation into your busy schedule as well

BJ!!!!
Well, all I care about is for Mr. Cavill to be successful and he most certainly was, so that's what matters. It already has the 2nd highest opening behind IronMan 3 so I am just FINE with that.

What can I say about Ms. Broccoli? She clearly has never seen actually stylish, attractive, badass men in her life. Or actually, she has (Henry did get to final audition), and she picked the one with whom she thought she might have a chance (Cause actually stylish, attractive and badass is a no go for her. There, I said it.)

[bjmdds]

Have you EVER seen a producer fawn over her lead actor so publicly that her own hibernating dolt of a brother admits Broccoli loves to see Cr-egg shirtless? It's truly disgraceful and she finds the new Q BRILLIANT

[John P. Drake]

I believe there would be a JLA movie. But, it wouldn't end up being good. Marvel movies are kinda in a "bright" universe, while the Nolan/DC universe are in a "dark" form (in soap opera way, disgusting), I don't think the JLA movie would end up being a success, I don't know though. I heard the script was in trouble a few weeks ago, who knows what would happen in the future? All I know is that the Nolan-esque style will be pasted over the material, and it will be another Dark Knight follow up. I wish Paul Dini and Bruce Timm get hired, scrap the script and write their own story. d**n, those pair know how to make a good product. Take Arkham Asylum and Arkham City for example, it was very dark and gritty, but it was true to the Batman TAS they created in the 1990s, and TAS is why I'm a Batman fan.

I love Timm and Dini's Batman too, just as I love Lewis Gilbert's take on Bond (even Moonraker has its good points, though I think the comedy went way over the top with Dolly etc). But Nolan and Mendes are, sad to say, giving audiences what they want. That's been my main argument with FBF in recent years. He thinks we should support "anything but Bond". I think we should specifically promote films that are in that lighter vein. Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol, JJ Abrams' Star Trek films, even the Pirates of the Caribbean films to a certain extent - there are still movies out there that choose not to go down the tired "dark and gritty" route. I've been toying with whether I should go to see Man of Steel or not. In typing this post, I think I've convinced myself not to!

Exactly, Kris. Exactly. And I literally LOVED Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol, it was a total utter Classic James Bond Movie, and best film in the series. I'll have to see Star Trek Into Darkness yet, perhaps when it comes out on DVD. I agree with you about Moonraker though, the comedy parts involving Jaws were over the top, should have stayed serious. TSWLM was light, but it was great. As for Nolan and Mendes... all I can do is to sigh... and leave it to my "arty" companions. I literally hate soap operas, never felt escapism with those. But, give me an awesome old fashioned actioner, then I'll embrace it with pleasure.

[John P. Drake]

I'm all for dark and gritty, whereas I know many of you here are not, yet even I was gagging for some light relief, fun and humanity in MoS. Give me Hackman's brilliant, funny one-liners any day of the week over this garbage.

Sweeney, are you against gadgets for Bond to have? Just in case if he had... are you?

[The Sweeney]

I'm all for dark and gritty, whereas I know many of you here are not, yet even I was gagging for some light relief, fun and humanity in MoS. Give me Hackman's brilliant, funny one-liners any day of the week over this garbage.

Sweeney, are you against gadgets for Bond to have? Just in case if he had... are you?

I actually don't mind gadgets if done in a decent way - like TLD and the Aston Martin for instance. I don't like the gondola in MR though (although his watch was ok), or the invisible car in DAD. That's when I don't like gadgets in Bond.

[The Sweeney]

Nice to see Ale back.
For the record I hated the new Superman film, but thought Henry looked great as Kal-El. I had no complaints with him as Superman.

[FormerBondFan]

But Nolan and Mendes are, sad to say, giving audiences what they want.

But unlike Mendes, Nolan doesn't make movies to win awards. Yes, he gives the audience what they want. Mendes on the other hand......he's just a mere puppet by Babs used to brainwash the audience into liking DC Bonds. For Babs, she's all about power.

That's been my main argument with FBF in recent years. He thinks we should support "anything but Bond". I think we should specifically promote films that are in that lighter vein.

Omega's right. It's not really worth relying on non-Bond franchises anymore, considering Skyfall has beaten the likes of the vampires, Middle Earth creatures, and even Nolan's Bat. Heck, it even beats MI4's numbers if we're talking about movies that can compete with Bond in terms of spy films. Besides, the classic Bond is not relevant anymore, and JackJamesBond007 and I have agreed. What's left is sending in actors with anti-classic looks. It's not for us but for those minions and the general public.

I've been toying with whether I should go to see Man of Steel or not. In typing this post, I think I've convinced myself not to!

I've seen MOS three times already. Yes, it's dark, but Superman wasn't gritty in the film by any means.

[John P. Drake]

I'm all for dark and gritty, whereas I know many of you here are not, yet even I was gagging for some light relief, fun and humanity in MoS. Give me Hackman's brilliant, funny one-liners any day of the week over this garbage.

Sweeney, are you against gadgets for Bond to have? Just in case if he had... are you?

I actually don't mind gadgets if done in a decent way - like TLD and the Aston Martin for instance. I don't like the gondola in MR though (although his watch was ok), or the invisible car in DAD. That's when I don't like gadgets in Bond.

The invisible car was extremely ridiculous, couldn't have been more ridiculous. Yes, I do like Brosnan as Bond, but the films I support are his first two ones. Anyway, you say you like dark, violent and gritty stuff, you should check out this comic book series by Mark Millar, imagine Classic Bond in a gritty and dark portrait, then you've got this one below:



It's one of my personal favourite comic series.

[John P. Drake]

Omega right. It's not really worth relying on non-Bond franchises anymore, considering Skyfall has beaten the likes of the vampires, Middle Earth creatures, and even Nolan's Bat. Heck, it even beats MI4's numbers if we're talking about movies that can compete with Bond in terms of spy films. Besides, the classic Bond is not relevant anymore, and JackJamesBond007 and I have agreed. What's left is sending in actors with anti-classic looks. It's not for us but for those minions and the general public.

It's true. Classic Bond is nothing more than just a memory in our minds, yes we can talk about it, but to expect a Classic Bond movie in the future? I wouldn't. DC has changed the franchise's image into something that only appeals people who have no idea what a hero means, no idea how an actioner can be done, no idea how someone can portray a hand-to-hand combat right, no idea how someone can properly hold and shoot a gun, and no idea how you'll feel the escapism with the flick you're watching. I'm all for comic book-styled flicks. But, that's about it, now. Bond? a dead man only remembered in our memories. Sad but true. It's not for us, anymore. I agreed with FormerBondFan on this one, and Glorious England believes the same thing even before I joined this forums.

[FormerBondFan]

This is what the Bond franchise is like nowadays....a zombie on steroids.



Jack, what do you think?

[John P. Drake]

This is what the Bond franchise is like nowadays....a zombie on steroids.



Jack, what do you think?

Spot on, FBF. That's the fandom nowadays, remember the conflict I had with bunch of minions through my Facebook account? That's them, those minions on steroids turned into zombies. Screw them.

[FormerBondFan]

This is what the Bond franchise is like nowadays....a zombie on steroids.



Jack, what do you think?

Spot on, FBF. That's the fandom nowadays, remember the conflict I had with bunch of minions through my Facebook account? That's them, those minions on steroids turned into zombies. Screw them.

It's zombies on steroids. If I must say, these monsters (or Pro-Craig minions) are VERY.....VERY hungry.

[Kristatos]

Omega right. It's not really worth relying on non-Bond franchises anymore, considering Skyfall has beaten the likes of the vampires, Middle Earth creatures, and even Nolan's Bat. Heck, it even beats MI4's numbers if we're talking about movies that can compete with Bond in terms of spy films. Besides, the classic Bond is not relevant anymore, and JackJamesBond007 and I have agreed. What's left is sending in actors with anti-classic looks. It's not for us but for those minions and the general public.

It's true. Classic Bond is nothing more than just a memory in our minds, yes we can talk about it, but to expect a Classic Bond movie in the future? I wouldn't. DC has changed the franchise's image into something that only appeals people who have no idea what a hero means, no idea how an actioner can be done, no idea how someone can portray a hand-to-hand combat right, no idea how someone can properly hold and shoot a gun, and no idea how you'll feel the escapism with the flick you're watching. I'm all for comic book-styled flicks. But, that's about it, now. Bond? a dead man only remembered in our memories. Sad but true. It's not for us, anymore. I agreed with FormerBondFan on this one, and Glorious England believes the same thing even before I joined this forums.

I'm not so sure. I believe the reason that Skyfall was so much more successful than the previous Craig films is that it *did* throw a bone to fans of classic Bond, with the return of Q and Moneypenny, the ejector seat gag and so on. Whether EON will get that message is another matter, though.

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[John P. Drake]

Omega right. It's not really worth relying on non-Bond franchises anymore, considering Skyfall has beaten the likes of the vampires, Middle Earth creatures, and even Nolan's Bat. Heck, it even beats MI4's numbers if we're talking about movies that can compete with Bond in terms of spy films. Besides, the classic Bond is not relevant anymore, and JackJamesBond007 and I have agreed. What's left is sending in actors with anti-classic looks. It's not for us but for those minions and the general public.

It's true. Classic Bond is nothing more than just a memory in our minds, yes we can talk about it, but to expect a Classic Bond movie in the future? I wouldn't. DC has changed the franchise's image into something that only appeals people who have no idea what a hero means, no idea how an actioner can be done, no idea how someone can portray a hand-to-hand combat right, no idea how someone can properly hold and shoot a gun, and no idea how you'll feel the escapism with the flick you're watching. I'm all for comic book-styled flicks. But, that's about it, now. Bond? a dead man only remembered in our memories. Sad but true. It's not for us, anymore. I agreed with FormerBondFan on this one, and Glorious England believes the same thing even before I joined this forums.

I'm not so sure. I believe the reason that Skyfall was so much more successful than the previous Craig films is that it *did* throw a bone to fans of classic Bond, with the return of Q and Moneypenny, the ejector seat gag and so on. Whether EON will get that message is another matter, though.

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I'm not really sure tha those so called zombies on steroids would want Classic Bond, again. It was sometime ago that I read a huge Cregg fan Disliked Shamefall just because it had the Goldfinger DB5 with its gadgets have returned. He liked the story but he wanted some False Realism based Bourne crap. I bet we are leaning more to the soap opera side within the timeline of the Bond movies than trying to get back to the classic touch. As long as Babz is there, there would be NO true Bond, just something that is dedicated to bunch of emos. I know, a hero would struggle, but that struggle shouldn't be over the top transforming into self-torture. I know, if the hero doesn't struggle sometimes, it would look boring, but someone at least should behave, and Cregg has no behavior. He's everything that Classic Bond stood against. The Classic Bond was suave, entertaining, patriotic, melee master, self-confident chap who would die for his country if he had to. But this new Bond? He's the same way as a street thug is, the camera shakes hard which "gives" the screen an "edgy" look, while our idiot Cregg does some fake hand to hand combat moves, I wish Liam Neeson was there so he could have told him "You're skilled, but we're not dancing". Ohh, and he's emotionally unbalanced, traitorous, incompetent scumbag who has no patriotism at all. What's there not to hate? But there's nothing we can do about it. It's a genre of soap opera now. That's what the pathetic modern audience want. After Shamefall made billions and received several awards from idiotic critics who have been licking Babz's feet just to make money, then of course Classic Bond would never be appreciated by these minions, specially when it's "nobody else than Cregg" crap thing that is stuck in their pathetic brains, brains? I doubt they have them. You know? Like FBF says let's give them someone ugly or monster-looking creatures to play Bond. That's what they want, yeah? Then let's give it to them. Hire the Strogg Aliens for the role next time. Quake monsters are soft comparing to the Strogg aliens.

[The Saint 007]

I'm not really sure tha those so called zombies on steroids would want Classic Bond, again. It was sometime ago that I read a huge Cregg fan Disliked Shamefall just because it had the Goldfinger DB5 with its gadgets have returned. He liked the story but he wanted some False Realism based Bourne crap.

I've seen this quite a bit in reviews and forums. People expressing disappointment with the fact that certain classic Bond elements return in Skyfall, because it defies the new direction Casino Royale and Quantum Of Solace brought to the series. The reboot has divided the fan base, and the filmmakers are going to have a difficult time trying to satisfy both audiences. As with Skyfall, while some people are pleased to see more classic Bond elements return, there are others who oppose it. It's a vicious circle.

[The Sweeney]

Anyway, you say you like dark, violent and gritty stuff, you should check out this comic book series by Mark Millar, imagine Classic Bond in a gritty and dark portrait, then you've got this one below:



It's one of my personal favourite comic series.

Cheers Jack. I'll check it out.

[John P. Drake]

Cheers mate.

[John P. Drake]

I'm not really sure tha those so called zombies on steroids would want Classic Bond, again. It was sometime ago that I read a huge Cregg fan Disliked Shamefall just because it had the Goldfinger DB5 with its gadgets have returned. He liked the story but he wanted some False Realism based Bourne crap.

I've seen this quite a bit in reviews and forums. People expressing disappointment with the fact that certain classic Bond elements return in Skyfall, because it defies the new direction Casino Royale and Quantum Of Solace brought to the series. The reboot has divided the fan base, and the filmmakers are going to have a difficult time trying to satisfy both audiences. As with Skyfall, while some people are pleased to see more classic Bond elements return, there are others who oppose it. It's a vicious circle.

Like I said, Skyfall's victory is only for a day or two. B24 and beyond... I see the darkness raiding over the franchise and it will result in a massive flop. You can't target something at two different audiences, it's either THIS or THAT. To have both? Impossible.It's just like you make a Japanese movie production tries to make a Spaghetti Western with Japanese actors and actresses. Wouldn't work. Wouldn't work at all.

[bjmdds]

TMOS 's actual wekkend totals were $116,619,362. It surpassed Sk-awful in the USA by $28 million. Let's see if it can top Bond 23 here in it's final totals. If so, Cavill will have defeated Cr-egg in a franchise to franchise box office comparison of well known iconic figures and our Ms. Bouvier will have a huge smile on her face Iron Man 3 is closing in on an incredible $400 million in the USA Domestic: $399,985,196 33.2%
+ Foreign: $803,800,000 66.8%
= Worldwide: $1,203,785,196