If DC can make history, then anybody can. What if Idris or someone in the likes of him makes history and then moviegoers praise him as the Best Bond EVER who can beat living sh1t out of DC's Bond, not to mentioned make $2 million or more? That I would like to see.Omega wrote:So what ever actor will be making history, I just mentioned brosnan making records and all kinds of praise for dad, it comes with the job all anybody will remember is who is getting praise at the moment, if bond 24 does this kind of Bo it washes away spy falls mark if bond #7 can do 2 billions, a real possibility if he is four or more years away nobody will care what the retired gym coach did.FormerBondFan wrote:But he made history with SF.bjmdds wrote:Cr-egg will be quickly forgotten once the 7th Bond is named.
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Hilton is too old. If Idris or Sheamus or any other direct opposites of the Bond we know becomes Bond, he should be given the same treatment as DC had with his Bonds.bjmdds wrote:FBF, if you get Idris as Bond, why not Robyn Hilton http://www.perfectpeople.net/photo-pict ... 308102.jpg as a Bond girl? She achieved fame with her assets in Blazing Saddles in 1974Why not bring her out of retirement and truly corrupt the new Bond in 2021?

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Looks like The Fast and the Furious franchise is slowly heading towards the James Bond route.
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Let's face it, Brozza's record breaking fails in comparison. With Craig we have Bond films which have done the seemingly impossible, in that his latest is now on par with TB - something I never thought would be possible again after 1965. Brozza's BO figures overall, adjusted for inflation don't come anywhere close. His billion dollar tag came from all 4 movies - Craig's done it in one. Moore was also more popular at the BO than Brosnan.Omega wrote:So what ever actor will be making history, I just mentioned brosnan making records and all kinds of praise for dad, it comes with the job all anybody will remember is who is getting praise at the moment, if bond 24 does this kind of Bo it washes away spy falls mark if bond #7 can do 2 billions, a real possibility if he is four or more years away nobody will care what the retired gym coach did.FormerBondFan wrote:But he made history with SF.bjmdds wrote:Cr-egg will be quickly forgotten once the 7th Bond is named.
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And the critics love Craig's films. Both CR and SF have rated far higher than any of Brosnan's, and now the small matter of winning awards too. I wouldn't be surprised if SF actually bags a few Oscars on the way too.
This is definitely the biggest reign for Bond since the peak of Bondmania in 1965, and I believe Craig himself has gone some way to achieving that (although I know many of you here won't accept that fact).
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If DC can reach this high, then anybody can and that depends on how phenomenal the movie is. It seems that sooner or later, we may have a black James Bond. I came across a Brosnan Bond fan on Facebook last November, and she said she does not mind Bond being black as long as he is handsome.

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Please allow me some hope for the future of the series.FormerBondFan wrote:The old classic Bond is done. Like BJ said, watch westerns instead.Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:So the whoring of the series for awards has been a sucess? Now, can we have a classic (proper classic, not SF faux classic) Bond next...Kristatos wrote:Skyfall won the BAFTA for outstanding British picture. Blah blah blah Irish wrestler blah blah blah NO EXCEPTIONS etc etc ad bloody nauseum.

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Good idea.Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:Please allow me some hope for the future of the series.FormerBondFan wrote:The old classic Bond is done. Like BJ said, watch westerns instead.Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:So the whoring of the series for awards has been a sucess? Now, can we have a classic (proper classic, not SF faux classic) Bond next...Kristatos wrote:Skyfall won the BAFTA for outstanding British picture. Blah blah blah Irish wrestler blah blah blah NO EXCEPTIONS etc etc ad bloody nauseum.

As Carl said QOS was not a big hit and maybe SF was a fluke coming off a four year break. Surely any Bond does well and we do not have to have poncy boring Bond movies with a mumbling yoda lookalike for the series to succeed.

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I'm not arguing some of this Sweeny, I am saying this is the inflated model of Bond performance we are to expect form now on. As it was during Brosnan's day, thats my main comparison.The Sweeney wrote: Let's face it, Brozza's record breaking fails in comparison. With Craig we have Bond films which have done the seemingly impossible, in that his latest is now on par with TB - something I never thought would be possible again after 1965. Brozza's BO figures overall, adjusted for inflation don't come anywhere close. His billion dollar tag came from all 4 movies - Craig's done it in one. Moore was also more popular at the BO than Brosnan.
And the critics love Craig's films. Both CR and SF have rated far higher than any of Brosnan's, and now the small matter of winning awards too. I wouldn't be surprised if SF actually bags a few Oscars on the way too.
This is definitely the biggest reign for Bond since the peak of Bondmania in 1965, and I believe Craig himself has gone some way to achieving that (although I know many of you here won't accept that fact).
You keep saying Bondmania, where? I can tell you it is not here in the us, the one tiein available world wide was the game and it flopped big time.
I still do not believe skyfall has broken TB record but I'm not going in to it, but lets look at what we have so far, $160 million from the UK and $303 million form the US, nearly half the money is from two countries, $463 million, which in these two countries is just about a guarantee any bond movie can do it again here.
IMO the market shifted again and what is possible with attendance and price in the world has gone up, they'd really have to try hard to not break $500 million anymore for almost any major franchise.
What has happened in china? it seems to hit the breaks real quick, still doing ok from what I read but it they say it will end with $60m or slightly more and has to turn over a most of its screens today or was it yesterday?
Is it the new year or were the hopes getting it clear of major hollywood completion mistaken?
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I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of whether SF actually beat TB - there are too many factors involved to accurately compare. SF opened to more markets than in 1965, yet back then there was no such thing as DVD's, downloads or Blu Rays. If you had to watch a film back then, it HAD to be seen at the cinema.Omega wrote:I'm not arguing some of this Sweeny, I am saying this is the inflated model of Bond performance we are to expect form now on. As it was during Brosnan's day, thats my main comparison.The Sweeney wrote: Let's face it, Brozza's record breaking fails in comparison. With Craig we have Bond films which have done the seemingly impossible, in that his latest is now on par with TB - something I never thought would be possible again after 1965. Brozza's BO figures overall, adjusted for inflation don't come anywhere close. His billion dollar tag came from all 4 movies - Craig's done it in one. Moore was also more popular at the BO than Brosnan.
And the critics love Craig's films. Both CR and SF have rated far higher than any of Brosnan's, and now the small matter of winning awards too. I wouldn't be surprised if SF actually bags a few Oscars on the way too.
This is definitely the biggest reign for Bond since the peak of Bondmania in 1965, and I believe Craig himself has gone some way to achieving that (although I know many of you here won't accept that fact).
You keep saying Bondmania, where? I can tell you it is not here in the us, the one tiein available world wide was the game and it flopped big time.
I still do not believe skyfall has broken TB record but I'm not going in to it, but lets look at what we have so far, $160 million from the UK and $303 million form the US, nearly half the money is from two countries, $463 million, which in these two countries is just about a guarantee any bond movie can do it again here.
IMO the market shifted again and what is possible with attendance and price in the world has gone up, they'd really have to try hard to not break $500 million anymore for almost any major franchise.
What has happened in china? it seems to hit the breaks real quick, still doing ok from what I read but it they say it will end with $60m or slightly more and has to turn over a most of its screens today or was it yesterday?
Is it the new year or were the hopes getting it clear of major hollywood completion mistaken?
I think its safe to say, the 2 biggest Bond films of all time at the BO are TB and SF. There is no disputing that fact.
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First things first, Babs needs to be removed, and she is worse than Rick Berman as a producer. But if Mikey stays on, that's fine with me. It would be a lot better if another party comes in and takes charge of the franchise. Not only that, reboot the series again as the 2nd reboot shall be the new James Bond episode 1 just like Batman Begins being the new Batman 1 and Star Trek '09 being the new Star Trek 1 (although it's still Star Trek 11 to some).Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:Please allow me some hope for the future of the series.FormerBondFan wrote:The old classic Bond is done. Like BJ said, watch westerns instead.Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:So the whoring of the series for awards has been a sucess? Now, can we have a classic (proper classic, not SF faux classic) Bond next...Kristatos wrote:Skyfall won the BAFTA for outstanding British picture. Blah blah blah Irish wrestler blah blah blah NO EXCEPTIONS etc etc ad bloody nauseum.

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Over any DC Bond? Yes but mostly on DVD rental. Like or not, there will be a black Bond. Based on Babs' rule, we had 7 years of Pierce's era (with 4 films), which should have last one more Bond or 2 (I know Toothpaste is not a fan of this idea), and now we had the DC era, which I had the feeling it will surpass Pierce's in terms of numbers of films DC himself will do. Babs is not a type of creature who listens to the fans, but even she said she does, she somehow manage to brainwash the general public (especially the younger audience in the likes of myself......those who grew up during Pierce's era) into liking DC as Bond. I know Omega, Toothpaste, and others here and elsewhere wish to see the classic Bond return. I do as well, but let us stop thinking about ourselves for one second. OK, we know Babs is a pretentious monster who think for nobody else but her own, and we know those minions are completely full of themselves that with DC means SUCCCESS and award nominations. Plus, they said looks do not count when it comes to casting Bond. Furthermore, we know Babs is opened to idea of a black Bond. You know what? Let's give it them. What I've been saying all these days is the idea of feeding the Queen B1tch and her legion of minions with what Saint 007 refer to as "anything goes," where anybody can be James Bond as the role has been diversified. It's not about us but them......those minions.....those creatures.....those zombies on steroids.bjmdds wrote:FBF, will you pay money to see Idris as Bond? Not me
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Pierce Brosnan hints that Oscars tribute will be minus one Bond
Feb. 11, 2013, 7:13 PM EST
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Pierce Brosnan has implied that the plan to honor all six James Bonds at the Oscars has hit a snag -- one former 007 won't be there.
Bing: Who is the best James Bond?
Oscars bosses recently revealed they had extended an invitation to all the movie Bonds -- from Sean Connery to Daniel Craig -- to attend the Academy Awards on Feb. 24, but the "Die Another Day" star has revealed there's one holdout.
Asked to confirm his participation in the get-together during a shopping trip in Malibu, Calif., on Sunday, Brosnan told TMZ.com, "They'll be missing one."
Brosnan refused to comment on who the one might be.
Oscar producers have already confirmed the participation of Bond theme singers Adele and Shirley Bassey.
Feb. 11, 2013, 7:13 PM EST
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Pierce Brosnan has implied that the plan to honor all six James Bonds at the Oscars has hit a snag -- one former 007 won't be there.
Bing: Who is the best James Bond?
Oscars bosses recently revealed they had extended an invitation to all the movie Bonds -- from Sean Connery to Daniel Craig -- to attend the Academy Awards on Feb. 24, but the "Die Another Day" star has revealed there's one holdout.
Asked to confirm his participation in the get-together during a shopping trip in Malibu, Calif., on Sunday, Brosnan told TMZ.com, "They'll be missing one."
Brosnan refused to comment on who the one might be.
Oscar producers have already confirmed the participation of Bond theme singers Adele and Shirley Bassey.

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If there's ever a black actor cast to play Bond, then I'm done with the series. And no, it's not an issue of being racist, it's about following guidelines. If I create a character to have certain looks/characteristics, then a person must be cast that fits the part appropriately. Otherwise, you can throw casting auditions out the window, and simply have an anything goes free-for-all. I've personally never heard of black actors being suggested to play the parts of Bruce Wayne, Peter Parker, Luke Skywalker, etc. So why James Bond? Seriously, if there are people out there that really want a black superspy, then just create a whole new series altogether. Oh, but then they wouldn't have the James Bond name to hide behind now, would they?
I can imagine that if they do cast a black actor to play Bond, there will be tons of marketing in order to spin a yarn of how this is what Ian Fleming had envisioned. It's amazing what all the things the dead can say. Die Another Day must have really did a number on many, if they can so willingly accept all this absurdity with enthusiasm.
I can imagine that if they do cast a black actor to play Bond, there will be tons of marketing in order to spin a yarn of how this is what Ian Fleming had envisioned. It's amazing what all the things the dead can say. Die Another Day must have really did a number on many, if they can so willingly accept all this absurdity with enthusiasm.

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Actor Craig Bierko joked on Twitter that if Idris is cast as Bond, he wants to be the first white Shaft.The Saint 007 wrote:If there's ever a black actor cast to play Bond, then I'm done with the series. And no, it's not an issue of being racist, it's about following guidelines. If I create a character to have certain looks/characteristics, then a person must be cast that fits the part appropriately. Otherwise, you can throw casting auditions out the window, and simply have an anything goes free-for-all. I've personally never heard of black actors being suggested to play the parts of Bruce Wayne, Peter Parker, Luke Skywalker, etc.
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I think they'll probably make Bond black eventually.
It's all part of the overall strategy in the world today.
It's all part of the overall strategy in the world today.


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I'd hate to see the first five Bonds on stage as Craig's stooges. I hope Pierce tells hem to bugger off.
I'd be surprised if a 50 year old Idris Elba replaces Craig.
The only way there would be a black Bond is if there were lots of Bond films/TV adaptions made by different people similar to what happens with Sherlock Holmes.
I'd be surprised if a 50 year old Idris Elba replaces Craig.

The only way there would be a black Bond is if there were lots of Bond films/TV adaptions made by different people similar to what happens with Sherlock Holmes.
Bring back Bond!
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I don't think they would cast a black actor (whatever Barbara Broccoli pretends in interviews) but it would be hilarious to see any rumpus it caused on the other forums. They'd get a taste of how I've felt for the last several years.
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Every bus stop (and I do mean every bus stop)nea where I live is advertising the [s]Terminal Velocity[/s] Skyfall DVD. I think someone is trying to torment me.
