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You know what is down right creepy the Obama App showing registered Dems, Names and address, neatly arranged to with pins on map. Big freaking brother what a creepy stalker app/.

I heard something interesting Obama wasn't know as Obama in his collage days he went by the name Barry Soto. :shock: What the hell man!

Funny there was an sound bit about the most secretive character to run for president since Nixon and all I could think of was Obama, it was a talking point form a Obama campaign person but when I think of secretive and president, Obama comes to mind.

The organized attack on Romney tax record has turned me off the dems, first they bring his father in to it in bad way, these hypocrite will not relates their own tax records yet throw stones. Obvious strategy strait from the re elect Obama group so I have no sympathy for them any more.

I'd liek Romney to release more information but I don't think it is necessary and too much could give Obama and his allies too much fodder so its clear why he'll stay in control of what is released. So not getting what he wants Obama tries smear campaign say Romney paid no taxes for 10 years yet we have 2 years of tax returns and we have to assume had he be nominated in 08 he of realest records to 06 so thinking about it in no way does the charge hold water. then their is someone trying to say he had $100 million in a IRA, who cares!? When Obam had his chance to set an example he did what all politicians do he took every available deduction.

But you know what I'd becareful if I were the dems Romney give a hell of lot to charity, unless they know exactly what is in his tax returns they should shut up, but if they do know what is in his records then I want to know how because it wouldn't be beneath Obama to have ordered the IRS to hand over the records.
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Dr. No, "Barry Soetoro" is the name given at the time of his enrollment in an Indonesian elementary school. Read these lies by Soetoro: http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/20 ... nounce-it/ Also, we heard last year the vast war chest of money Oh-bama would have totaling a billion dollars. Well that claim was also bogus and Romney has out raised the clown 3 straight months, when it really counts, and little has been accomplished by Oh-bama's mass lying tactics: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/us/po ... .html?_r=1
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I remember the billion dollar claim, they they got made a few months ago calming the repubs made it up :lol:

Seeing how low Obama will go is disappointing I expected Romney to go low first but Obama isn't the man he claimed to be. Saying Romney essentially murdered a mans wife, the fact Obama is willing to use the wife death as political fodder is upsetting but the fact are way shot to hell. Romney was not at Bane when this happened, and the guy is lied about when his wife got sick and she had health care for years after his no good ass was laid off.. All the Obama surrogates asked to refute this get indignant then proceed pile on more crap. These are people I don't want in charge of the government , leaving this smear out of it Obama has gotten too comfortable straight up lying about what is going on. HE can do weird justifications for why he says what he says but its like he is not living in the same world, he worse than bush on this
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Lots of sources announcing that Romney has picked Paul Ryan as his running mate, though it hasn't been officially announced yet, so best to take it with a pinch of salt until it is.

(Update: it now seems to be official).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s29X6Wm0J1Q http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallu ... oval.aspx/ http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... cking_poll Do NOT believe the polls showing Oh-bama opening any lead. These are the 2 best to get the truth and Oh-bama is at an all time high NEGATIVE job approval rating and tied with Romney in the Gallup poll. Romney leads Oh-bama in the Rasmussen poll. These other polls are bogus and sample 9% more Democrats deliberately to get their numbers. NO President gets re-elected with a 51% negative approval rating........and that is from left leaning Gallup :!:
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bjmdds wrote: These other polls are bogus and sample 9% more Democrats deliberately to get their numbers.
Where do you get that 9% figure from? It's true that different polling firms have what is called a "house effect" where their methodologies bias them towards one party or the other. NYT blogger Nate Silver adjusts their figures accordingly, but none of the firms are off by that much. The statistical adjustments are shown below:

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This being the New York Times, however, it is, of course, necessary to look a little deeper. And if you look a little deeper, you find that the poll's sampling procedure has insured that Mr. Obama will look good, by following in the footsteps of so many other polls we have noted over the past several weeks and oversampling Democrats. Specifically:

-In Pennsylvania, the poll is comprised of 38% Democrats, 32% Republicans and 26% independents - a 6% oversampling of Democrats in a state where Democrats had just a 3% edge in the 2010 exit polls;

-In Ohio, the poll is comprised of 35% Democrats, 27% Republicans and 32% independents: an 8% oversampling of Democrats in a state where Republicans had 1% more voters than Democrats in 2010;

-In Florida, the poll is comprised of 36% Democrats, 27% Republicans and 32% independents - a 9% oversampling of Democrats in a state where the two parties were dead even in 2010.
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I'm not going to give too much creditability to polls yet after the conventions we'll get a better idea of what's happening a lot do no know who Romney is poeple will start paying attention soon.

I wonder how accurate the polling is so big polling missteps this year also exit polling is completely out of whack. I wonder if home phones switching to cell phones is accounted for

So many thought it'd be rubio, Ryan not sure how I feel about him I like him because from what i've seen he is principled in his actions and one of the few to actually try to do something real in Washington. I think I'm not sure about him because I don't want to see him smeared by the obama machine and we've seen how low they will go already. I got a link to video by college students singing a song the Obama I used ot know :lol:

Obama should be scared not because of anything ryan brings VP almost mean nothing Quayle ,Gore, Cheney, Biden, the decision is Romney V Obama

But a choice of Ryan is the first sign the Romney is really going to fight for the presidency, McCain was too frightened to challenge Obama, the Repubs normally roll over like Bod Dole running against Clinton. This is why Obama should be afraid, even with the media blatantly carting his water he will be challenged, really challenged for the first time in his life. all of his elections have so far been charmed.
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Read this Dr. No. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08 ... tatus?lite Outrageous by Oh-bama :!: :down:
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January 2009
March 2012
Difference
Unemployed Americans
12 million
12.8 million
+800,000
Unemployment Rate
7.8%
8.3%
+.5%
Price of Gas per Gallon
$1.84
$3.90
+112%
Federal Debt
$10.6 trillion
$15.6 trillion
+47%
Debt per American
$34,731
$49,764
+$15,033
Food Stamp Recipients
32 million
46 million
+45%
Median Home Values
$169,700
$147,800
-14%
Americans in Poverty
39.8 million
46.2 million
+6.4 million
Average Insurance Premiums
$13,375
15,073
+13%
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Dr. No, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-myvQEajzWY Speaking of reality, the UK did exactly what Obama and the Democrats propose to do here — pass a surtax on high-income earners. The new tax rate of 50%, which took effect at the beginning of the year, was expected to raise a billion pounds in extra revenue each month. So how did that work out? Tax revenues dropped by more than £500 million:
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Romney leads 47-43 in Rasmussen poll and 47-45 in Gallup poll. The other polls are BOGUS, biased, and not worth considering. If these 2 polls remain as is, we are in great shape to oust the louse in November from the White House.
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bjmdds wrote:Dr. No, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-myvQEajzWY Speaking of reality, the UK did exactly what Obama and the Democrats propose to do here — pass a surtax on high-income earners. The new tax rate of 50%, which took effect at the beginning of the year, was expected to raise a billion pounds in extra revenue each month. So how did that work out? Tax revenues dropped by more than £500 million:
I don't think the 50% tax rate is too successful - because the rich are very good at tax dodging!
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:
I don't think the 50% tax rate is too successful - because the rich are very good at tax dodging!
Ain't that the truth. Even the One (Obama) took every crooked way to lower his taxes once he magically become a millionaire a magic only affecting people elected to office in Washington :?

I say flat tax for everybody no loopholes.
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Why does every podunk federal agency now have it's own police force. Social Security and the weather agency's :shock: Why does any agency need their own police force (why not call the actual police) and why are they buying weapons and ammo like they are preparing for the zombie apocalypse?

If W's federal government were arming up like this it'd be news.

Mark my words there will be a terrible fall out because of this (some day), too many agencies with the power to enforce their own policies they will inevitably abuse this power, it will be a hell of a scandal. We worked really hard to fix our police forces to get ride of incompetence and corruption to be able to hold them accountable, too many police forces unaccountable except to themselves a recipe for disaster.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/ins ... wisconsin/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/1 ... 76441.html New evidence comes in the just-released biography "Barack Obama: The Story," by David Maraniss. Obama spent very little time in business, but he did have a job at a company called Business International for about a year after he graduated from Columbia University in 1983. The book contains new details about the future president's brief stint in corporate America.

Obama was a low-level editor in Reference Services, working on reports describing economic conditions in various foreign countries. By all accounts, he disliked the work, not just because it was pedestrian and boring, but because it was in business.

"He calls it working for the enemy," Obama's mother, Ann, wrote after a phone conversation with her son, "because some of the reports are written for commercial firms that want to invest in [Third World] countries."

Writing to a former girlfriend, Maraniss says, Obama also "expressed a distaste for the corporate world." And in his engaging but unreliable memoir "Dreams from My Father," Obama described his time at Business International this way: "Like a spy behind enemy lines, I arrived every day at my mid-Manhattan office. ..." Obama wrote that he took the job only after his applications to several civil rights organizations were ignored.

Obama subsequently quit Business International, became a community organizer, attended law school, briefly practiced public interest law, taught a college class and got into politics. He had several jobs, but never again in business.
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More truth to it than I'd like to admit. George Washington warned us about the two party system he was right.

I thought Obama would buck the trend of party hacks elected to the office. Sadly he was a ultimate party hack on steroids.
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