The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[FormerBondFan]

Read this from George Lazenby: "And Lazenby insists his portrayal of 007 in 1969 was the most believable, adding, "It's the only film that treats him like a human being. He's not a robot killer like the latest Bond... When I did it, it had more heart. There's no heart to the new Bond."

I may not be a fan of Georgie's Bond, but I like what he thinks.

[The Sweeney]

We shall see. IMBD only lists Bond 24 as a rumored role for Cr-egg, with NOTHING else . If that's the case, NO studios have signed him on. What does that tell you? The only role he squawked about taking will wind up being his only means of support. He won't leave. He must be fired. Will they do it after this one?

They won't fire him, Craig will leave when he is done with the franchise - such is the power he has over Babs.
As for the BO reception Skyfall will receive, I stand by my prediction that this will bring in more than CR worldwide - and this is after adjusting for inflation (will bring in more bums on seats than what CR did).

I have a feeling the reviews will be kinder to this film than they were with QoS too, judging by the quality of crew on board this time round. I'm predicting the critics will eat this one up, which will push the BO further.

Cool Britannia is having a short boost at the moment with the Queen's Jubilee, Kate & Wills, and now the London Olympics, including that opening scene with Craig. This will help give it that extra push globally, coupled with the fact there hasn't been a Bond film for a while now.

[Mazer Rackham]

We shall see. IMBD only lists Bond 24 as a rumored role for Cr-egg, with NOTHING else . If that's the case, NO studios have signed him on. What does that tell you? The only role he squawked about taking will wind up being his only means of support. He won't leave. He must be fired. Will they do it after this one?

They won't fire him, Craig will leave when he is done with the franchise - such is the power he has over Babs.
As for the BO reception Skyfall will receive, I stand by my prediction that this will bring in more than CR worldwide - and this is after adjusting for inflation (will bring in more bums on seats than what CR did).

I have a feeling the reviews will be kinder to this film than they were with QoS too, judging by the quality of crew on board this time round. I'm predicting the critics will eat this one up, which will push the BO further.

Cool Britannia is having a short boost at the moment with the Queen's Jubilee, Kate & Wills, and now the London Olympics, including that opening scene with Craig. This will help give it that extra push globally, coupled with the fact there hasn't been a Bond film for a while now.

You're a little high off the jubilee euphoria there Willie. More bums in the stands you seriously expect 750m.

Craig can walk away, MGM also has a few stones to throw if they want. If it is extremely successful then Sony/MGM probably encourage him to stay on the other hand retooling can bring in more audience and money.

The test is yes it was a lot of years without a Bond however will any old damned thing do? Will it be too long to bring back a old Bond when the audience moved on from 2008?

Connery's first bit misstep in Bond (first OTT crapfest) cost 85 million movie goers, judging from his last two contracted movies, four years later he returned he attendance still went down, slipped even further when he went rogue coming back to Bond 12 years after his last official appearance. Point is this was Connery the very image in everyone's mind. Danno already started his slip will his reappearance alone be enough to bring back more?

A reasonable guess would be attendance in the 78 to 74m range if things go well. Bad reaction to the controversial elements could make it do worse.
I'm not worried about the professional critics we all know how glowing their reviews will be, a few will be interested in looking at Bond as series and as a whole is probably where the weak emo elements of Spyfall will backfire.

[The Sweeney]

You're a little high off the jubilee euphoria there Willie. More bums in the stands you seriously expect 750m.

Craig can walk away, MGM also has a few stones to throw if they want. If it is extremely successful then Sony/MGM probably encourage him to stay on the other hand retooling can bring in more audience and money.

The test is yes it was a lot of years without a Bond however will any old damned thing do? Will it be too long to bring back a old Bond when the audience moved on from 2008?

Connery's first bit misstep in Bond (first OTT crapfest) cost 85 million movie goers, judging from his last two contracted movies, four years later he returned he attendance still went down, slipped even further when he went rogue coming back to Bond 12 years after his last official appearance. Point is this was Connery the very image in everyone's mind. Danno already started his slip will his reappearance alone be enough to bring back more?

A reasonable guess would be attendance in the 78 to 74m range if things go well. Bad reaction to the controversial elements could make it do worse.
I'm not worried about the professional critics we all know how glowing their reviews will be, a few will be interested in looking at Bond as series and as a whole is probably where the weak emo elements of Spyfall will backfire.

This is my gut feeling around Skyfall, that it will surpass CR's BO takings (after inflation), and will probably bring in more bums on seats globally than anything even in the Brozza era.

The Jubilee/Olympics rides a lot on my instinct, but also the absence for a few years, plus IMAX. I just feel this will be Craig's crowning moment as Bond, third time to charm, like it was with Connery's and Moore's third outings.

I could be completely wrong of course......

[carl stromberg]

Read this from George Lazenby: "And Lazenby insists his portrayal of 007 in 1969 was the most believable, adding, "It's the only film that treats him like a human being. He's not a robot killer like the latest Bond... When I did it, it had more heart. There's no heart to the new Bond."

"Robot Killer" does sum up Craig's Bond.

[The Saint 007]

So far, Roger Moore and George Lazenby have made criticisms towards Daniel Craig's dark and humourless portrayal of Bond. Sean Connery, Timothy Dalton, and Pierce Brosnan will hopefully do the same.

[The Sweeney]

So far, Roger Moore and George Lazenby have made criticisms towards Daniel Craig's dark and humourless portrayal of Bond. Sean Connery, Timothy Dalton, and Pierce Brosnan will hopefully do the same.

I thought Moore loved Craig in CR, but just didn't like QoS?
Brosnan has gone on the record stating he loves Craig's Bond - http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/10/showb ... hpt=hp_bn7

I think Dalton and Connery have also praised Craig's Bond too (but again from CR, not QoS).

Didn't Lazenby also fall out with Brosnan too at one point?

[Blowfeld]

So far, Roger Moore and George Lazenby have made criticisms towards Daniel Craig's dark and humourless portrayal of Bond. Sean Connery, Timothy Dalton, and Pierce Brosnan will hopefully do the same.

I thought Moore loved Craig in CR, but just didn't like QoS?
Brosnan has gone on the record stating he loves Craig's Bond - http://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/10/showb ... hpt=hp_bn7

I think Dalton and Connery have also praised Craig's Bond too (but again from CR, not QoS).

Didn't Lazenby also fall out with Brosnan too at one point?

Pierce has not seen / will not watch either of Daniel Craig's movies, so where does all this love come from?

Sir Roger Moore I think was upset how violent CR and QOS were but he would like to take Craig home to nurse him to health if he ever should be injured.

Lazenby not sure. He did take a piss on Pierce however as I've later found out he also thought (at the time) rival 007 series might use him.

Sean was kind of glass half full endorsement, he didn't really seem to care for CR damned kids and their rock'n'roll

The previous Bonds are not going to trash the new guy and the new guy as we will see this year for sure will talk about how much he loves (insert Bond here), and how much (insert Bond here)influenced his life personally and professionally.

[Blowfeld]

This is my gut feeling around Skyfall, that it will surpass CR's BO takings (after inflation), and will probably bring in more bums on seats globally than anything even in the Brozza era.

The Jubilee/Olympics rides a lot on my instinct, but also the absence for a few years, plus IMAX. I just feel this will be Craig's crowning moment as Bond, third time to charm, like it was with Connery's and Moore's third outings.

I could be completely wrong of course......

Ah, yes I remember TWINE being Pierce's crowing achievement and Property of a Lady topping off Timothy's time.

Spy Who was a major shift after TMWGG almost wrecked the series I'm not sure I'd count it as Sir Roger's finest moment / third time charm as Bond.

Practically speaking Sween even QOS out sold the Borsnan era, then again Brosnan did go against some of the biggest movies of his day head to head this will be Daniel's first time with any real competition.

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

So far, Roger Moore and George Lazenby have made criticisms towards Daniel Craig's dark and humourless portrayal of Bond. Sean Connery, Timothy Dalton, and Pierce Brosnan will hopefully do the same.

Even if he didn't like Craig, Dalton isn't the type to take shots at other Bonds. He would praise them rather than rock the boat.

[bjmdds]

The Bourne Legacy might go down quickly. Will the Bat still rule the box office this weekend? http://justatad.wordpress.com/2012/07/2 ... -heritage/ http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/bourne ... id=2697743 They lost me at the genetic level plot. Ridiculous.

[The Sweeney]

So far, Roger Moore and George Lazenby have made criticisms towards Daniel Craig's dark and humourless portrayal of Bond. Sean Connery, Timothy Dalton, and Pierce Brosnan will hopefully do the same.

Even if he didn't like Craig, Dalton isn't the type to take shots at other Bonds. He would praise them rather than rock the boat.

I agree. Dalton is too much of a gentleman for bitching, unlike bitter old Lazenby.

In fact, Dalton had this to say about Craig, stating the opening 25 mins of CR was the best 25 mins from ANY Bond movie. This seems more than just the customary fellow compliments, but instead gushing praise - http://www.bond23.net/020101101/timothy ... d-bond-23/

[bjmdds]

Clooney's Batman flick was on cable last night. I watched it for 10 minutes before having to shut it off. It was so POORLY done, with Bane a joke, and the casting, compared to Nolan's version. Clooney almost destroyed the franchise. It is one of the worst films ever made and casted.

[FormerBondFan]

The Bourne Legacy might go down quickly. Will the Bat still rule the box office this weekend? http://justatad.wordpress.com/2012/07/2 ... -heritage/ http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/bourne ... id=2697743 They lost me at the genetic level plot. Ridiculous.

Legacy won't beat Ultimatum's numbers. I want Bale to rule this weekend, but Jeremy will take lead. And that d**n gunman.

[FormerBondFan]

Clooney's Batman flick was on cable last night. I watched it for 10 minutes before having to shut it off. It was so POORLY done, with Bane a joke, and the casting, compared to Nolan's version. Clooney almost destroyed the franchise. It is one of the worst films ever made and casted.

You can't blame Clooney. Joel is the one responsible. Took the hard work Tim Burton did and threw it in the dumpster.

[bjmdds]

FBF, it's not watchable. The casting and acting in Clooney's Batman is pathetic.

[bjmdds]

The Bourne Legacy might go down quickly. Will the Bat still rule the box office this weekend? http://justatad.wordpress.com/2012/07/2 ... -heritage/ http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/bourne ... id=2697743 They lost me at the genetic level plot. Ridiculous.

Legacy won't beat Ultimatum's numbers. I want Bale to rule this weekend, but Jeremy will take lead. And that d**n gunman.

I am not so sure it will beat what TR did last weekend. It looks like a stinker FBF.

[The Sweeney]

Clooney's Batman flick was on cable last night. I watched it for 10 minutes before having to shut it off. It was so POORLY done, with Bane a joke, and the casting, compared to Nolan's version. Clooney almost destroyed the franchise. It is one of the worst films ever made and casted.

We are in agreement for once BJ......

[FormerBondFan]

FBF, it's not watchable. The casting and acting in Clooney's Batman is pathetic.

Look on the bright side. If it wasn't for Batman & Robin, we wouldn't have Chris' Battrilogy. I don't know about you, but it's best to watch Georgie's Bat just for laughs to see how STUPID it really is.

[bjmdds]

Clooney's Batman flick was on cable last night. I watched it for 10 minutes before having to shut it off. It was so POORLY done, with Bane a joke, and the casting, compared to Nolan's version. Clooney almost destroyed the franchise. It is one of the worst films ever made and casted.

We are in agreement for once BJ......

See, there is common ground in the world after all