The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[FormerBondFan]

The Bat is now the 2nd highest grossing movie with the overseas' gross higher than in the US. If it wasn't for that "supervillain" in Colorado, the US gross would have been higher.

Speaking of the worldwide top 10, Brave has entered the list. And Madagascar 3 needs to reach $600 million. The more animated films in the list, the better. We need more people leaning towards escapism. The Bat's final round may be realism, but's only the half of it. Rises is the closet to escapism we can ever get to in Chris' Bat.

[shaken not stirred]

Anna Karenina is now pushed back to to November 16. At least, we still have Lincoln, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's rated R.

So Eon gets ONE weekend to gloat........then be annihilated...........

Let's hope those odds are in our favour , derpfall really needs to bomb bad.

[FormerBondFan]

Anna Karenina is now pushed back to to November 16. At least, we still have Lincoln, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's rated R.

So Eon gets ONE weekend to gloat........then be annihilated...........

Let's hope those odds are in our favour , derpfall really needs to bomb bad.

We're going to need enough competition aside from the vampires and the Middle Earth creatures. I hope Rise of the Guardians will bring enough kids and families into the theater. Les Miserables will be there, and I hope it stays where it is. I still could not understand why that musical is placed on the same day as Bilbo's journey, but it's going to get the international audience more attention than here. Besides, we need a sleeper hit.

[bjmdds]

The Bat film will be around the entire month of August and will ring up huge numbers. It's descent will not be steep but rather slow now and it will linger in the top 5 for a long while yet. "The Dark Knight Rises led the box office for a third weekend in a row, grossing $36.4 million and giving Warner Bros.’ $250 million-budgeted Batman sequel $354.6 million domestically after 17 days. The Dark Knight Rises" led the foreign box office with $67 million from 58 markets. The Dark Knight Rises" has now taken in $378.4 million overseas, and is pacing 49 percent ahead of "Dark Knight Rises" at the same stage in its release. Using the exchange rate in effect in 2008 when "The Dark Knight" was in release, it's 31 percent ahead. Rises has earned $378.4 million internationally (for a $733 million worldwide total), and it looks like it is headed past the $1 billion mark as well. Although naysayers may point out that The Dark Knight Rises is performing below original domestic expectations, the film is clearly a hit."

[FormerBondFan]

There's no doubt that the first chapter of Bilbo's adventure will surpass the Giant Bat's (or the good creature should we refer) numbers.

[bjmdds]

Spiderman cost Sony $230 million to make. I don't know why it should cost so much for these 3-D and Imax effects, but it does. I would guess they spent at least $170 million to advertise and promote it, bring Sony's actual total cost to around $400 million for this junk. It won't gross $800 million worldwide, therefore it will be a net loser before post theatre dvds, etc., are sold. How can they justify this? These studios are idiots and those running them lose more in the long run than they make. How does this continue?

[bjmdds]

FBF, don't look now: "In conversation with the British radio host Dave Gorman, Daniel Radcliffe admits that he’s fairly sure the films will be remade at some point, and while he finds the idea upsetting, he’s already marked out a possible role for himself if they are. He said: “I’ve been kind of thinking who I’d like to play in the inevitable remakes, and I’ve decided I’d quite like to play James Potter. Just play my dad, nice two or three days work, you know. Yeah, that would be nice.” If so, Cr-egg will be signed on as a MANDRAKE http://images.wikia.com/harrypotter/ima ... drake2.JPG

[bjmdds]

Warner Bros. executive vice-president for distribution Goldstein remained confident that "Dark Knight Rises" will hit the billion-dollar mark worldwide. "We're going to exceed it," he said. The weekend's grosses were swelled by $5.7 million from 132 IMAX screens; it remains in 4,242 theaters overall. With another $67 million coming in from the overseas box office this weekend, the worldwide overall gross for "Dark Knight Rises" now stands at $733 million.

[bjmdds]

The first film, "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey", will premiere in Jackson's hometown Wellington on November 28. FBF, this gives Eon only 4 weekends overseas until it's destruction by Bilbo Baggins. Once this premieres, Bond 23 is a distant memory and with Twilight burying it November 16th, Cr-egg might disappear rapidly from the collective minion consciousness. I sense victory FBF... ....victory From November 16th on, Bond is D.O.R.(dropped on request), as they say in An Officer And A Gentleman, Adele or no Adele, for the singer will have ZERO impact on this film's box office.

[FormerBondFan]

From November 16th on, Bond is D.O.R.(dropped on request), as they say in An Officer And A Gentleman, Adele or no Adele, for the singer will have ZERO impact on this film's box office.

Like you said, we need an LTK response to Bond 23 as well as Bond 23 to disappear from the box office faster than QOS.

[The Sweeney]

The first film, "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey", will premiere in Jackson's hometown Wellington on November 28. FBF, this gives Eon only 4 weekends overseas until it's destruction by Bilbo Baggins. Once this premieres, Bond 23 is a distant memory and with Twilight burying it November 16th, Cr-egg might disappear rapidly from the collective minion consciousness. I sense victory FBF... ....victory From November 16th on, Bond is D.O.R.(dropped on request), as they say in An Officer And A Gentleman, Adele or no Adele, for the singer will have ZERO impact on this film's box office.

Sorry BJ but I just can't see this happening. Skyfall trailer has been well-received on most threads I've scoured on the internet, and with the London Olympics showcasing Craig's 007 with the Queen, I can actually see Skyfall easily surpassing CR's BO takings worldwide.

Add Adele to the mix, with a potential no. 1 top single for the charts, and I can see Skyfall being one of the biggest Bond films in years.

And this doesn't really have anything to do with Craig as 007. Stick any actor in the role at this present time now and the film will still have the same BO impact. Craig is fortunate to be in a Bond film which happened in the same year as the London Olympics, with a show-stealing scene in the opening ceremony that will do far more publicity for the film than anything EON/Sony could have ever dreamed of.

Sorry guys, but I can see some very disappointed faces on here come November....

[shaken not stirred]

The first film, "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey", will premiere in Jackson's hometown Wellington on November 28. FBF, this gives Eon only 4 weekends overseas until it's destruction by Bilbo Baggins. Once this premieres, Bond 23 is a distant memory and with Twilight burying it November 16th, Cr-egg might disappear rapidly from the collective minion consciousness. I sense victory FBF... ....victory From November 16th on, Bond is D.O.R.(dropped on request), as they say in An Officer And A Gentleman, Adele or no Adele, for the singer will have ZERO impact on this film's box office.

Sorry BJ but I just can't see this happening. Skyfall trailer has been well-received on most threads I've scoured on the internet, and with the London Olympics showcasing Craig's 007 with the Queen, I can actually see Skyfall easily surpassing CR's BO takings worldwide.

Add Adele to the mix, with a potential no. 1 top single for the charts, and I can see Skyfall being one of the biggest Bond films in years.

And this doesn't really have anything to do with Craig as 007. Stick any actor in the role at this present time now and the film will still have the same BO impact. Craig is fortunate to be in a Bond film which happened in the same year as the London Olympics, with a show-stealing scene in the opening ceremony that will do far more publicity for the film than anything EON/Sony could have ever dreamed of.

Sorry guys, but I can see some very disappointed faces on here come November....

I guess it's to be expected, looks like I'm done with this franchise then, stick a fork in it it's done , people seem to prefer misery to escapism today anyway (avengers is still one of the best films of the year and that was well recieved but sod escapism) and it's a real sad outlook on the world today, looks like I'll have to stick to ironman from now on to get My bond fix.

I'm not gonna waste My time watching a morose, emo, bitter as beep bond trying to be bourne wannabe, this franchise has been neutered and lost any ounce of self respect it ever had, it's pc and a joke.

Sweeney: This isn't meant as a post at you, I just bloody hate everything this franchise has turned into and once again we can do nothing about it, I felt the same way when Schumacher ruined batman after Burton except that was axed and Nolan saved it but this...dammit bloody eon and it's horny babs you killed My childhood and a well respected character, they can shove their arthouse style bond where the sun don't shine, first they make bond a thug, too short and more wooden then keanu reeves, then they make q someone who works at pc world and now we might have a militarialistic money penny, let's just make bond sleep with the same sex next and dress him up in womens clothing and call him jane bond .

[The Sweeney]

Sweeney: This isn't meant as a post at you, I just bloody hate everything this franchise has turned into and once again we can do nothing about it, I felt the same way when Schumacher ruined batman after Burton except that was axed and Nolan saved it but this...dammit bloody eon and it's horny babs you killed My childhood and a well respected character, they can shove their arthouse style bond where the sun don't shine, first they make bond a thug, too short and more wooden then keanu reeves, then they make q someone who works at pc world and now we might have a militarialistic money penny, let's just make bond sleep with the same sex next and dress him up in womens clothing and call him jane bond .

You never know, it may not all be bad. Judging by the trailer it appears as though some of the classical Bond elements have returned (even though we now have a very bizarre, young, geeky Q). This is mostly evident in the trailer when Craig adjusts his cufflinks after landing on the back of the open train carraige, a scene that was more like a Brosnan moment.

Skyfall will probably be the most Bond-like of Craig's 3 films, if you can get over the fact that Daniel Craig is playing 007...(which I know most of you here can't)

[shaken not stirred]

I guess it's to be expected, looks like I'm done with this franchise then, stick a fork in it it's done , people seem to prefer misery to escapism today anyway (avengers is still one of the best films of the year and that was well recieved but sod escapism) and it's a real sad outlook on the world today, looks like I'll have to stick to ironman from now on to get My bond fix.

I'm not gonna waste My time watching a morose, emo, bitter as beep bond trying to be bourne wannabe, this franchise has been neutered and lost any ounce of self respect it ever had, it's pc and a joke.

Sweeney: This isn't meant as a post at you & no need to apologise man, I just bloody hate everything this franchise has turned into and once again we can do nothing about it, I felt the same way when Schumacher ruined batman after Burton except that was axed and Nolan saved it but this...dammit bloody eon and it's horny babs you killed My childhood and a well respected character, they can shove their arthouse style bond where the sun don't shine, first they make bond a thug, too short and more wooden then keanu reeves, then they make q someone who works at pc world and now we might have a militarialistic money penny, let's just make bond sleep with the same sex next and dress him up in womens clothing and call him jane bond .

Thanks babs you've taken one of My greatest heroes of all time and turned him into a whiny bitch who loves to kill anyone and everything and can't even put a sentence together without boring the ever loving beep out of Me & he still looks like a thug or gorilla in a suit not 007 the man everyone wanted to be, if I ever get into films I'm gonna find out what babs likes completely reboot that franchise and show her how it feels, ah (censor) it to hell (end of rant).

[The Saint 007]

After that anti-Bond film that was Quantum Of Solace, of course the producers are going to bring back certain classic Bond elements in order to try and win back the fans that are upset. Will Skyfall be better than Quantum Of Solace? Possibly. There's nowhere to go but up after that last horrible effort. It would be really something if they managed to make Skyfall even worse than Quantum Of Solace. But if I didn't care for Daniel Craig as Bond in his first two films, the chances are I'm probably not going to care for him in Skyfall, despite the film being more Bond-like.

Skyfall looks to be even darker than Craig's previous Bond outings, and it will yet again have Bond going through more psychological problems. As I said in another thread, these new Bond films are like espionage soap operas, they focus too much on Bond's character and other characters around him, and not enough on the actual adventure. I don't care about Bond's emotional problems, relationships, and whatnot. I bet if Quantum Of Solace didn't receive so much backlash, they would have probably made a sequel to it in the very same manner. They're only bringing back some classic Bond elements to lure back the angered fans. Well, it's going to take a lot more than an overly young Q or an Aston Martin DB5 to get me to see Skyfall.

[Gala Brand]

Spiderman cost Sony $230 million to make. I don't know why it should cost so much for these 3-D and Imax effects, but it does. I would guess they spent at least $170 million to advertise and promote it, bring Sony's actual total cost to around $400 million for this junk. It won't gross $800 million worldwide, therefore it will be a net loser before post theatre dvds, etc., are sold. How can they justify this? These studios are idiots and those running them lose more in the long run than they make. How does this continue?

According to this article, Marvel spent $100 million to market the Avengers. Do you really think they spent $70 million more to market Spiderman?

http://www.mediamarketjournal.com/2012/ ... nd-market/

[Blowfeld]

(Sigh)
Not worth going in to all of this again. However the $100 million USD is incorrect in anybodies book. Daniel told us about how much Bond cost to make, in fact said unless he could loan them half a billion there was nothing he could do to get Bond 23 made.
However for The Avengers we do have a definitive number for total cost $473.2M.MIB 3 has a $450.0 million USD price tag, Batman TDKR is over $400 million, these numbers are more or less written in stone no use arguing about it. The Amazing Spider-man is at a minimum $350 million probably closer to $400 million USD because those number were from before the film was released since then it's cost ballooned.

The studio and its production and financing partner, Legendary Entertainment, spent an estimated $250 million to make “The Dark Knight Rises,” with marketing costs pushing the total cost of this PG-13 movie over $400 million.

he Amazing Spider-Man” is saddled with an estimated $215 million dollar budget, and with advertising costs and celebrity junkets and the like, you’re probably looking at a $300-$350 million total budget. (Numbers, as always, vary depending on who you ask.) Unless Spidey loses his mojo real quick after this week (and with “The Dark Knight Rises” looming later this month), expectations are reasonably good that he’ll fully launch that trilogy Sony recently announced.

The inevitable sequel won't explode out of the gate a la Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest or The Dark Knight (unless they cast Johnny Depp as Dr. Octopus) and that's a problem unless Sony can keep costs down. I'd argue that Sony may have won the battle with The Amazing Spider-Man (it's not a flop by any means), but they may have lost the war.

Scott Mendelson

[FormerBondFan]

After that anti-Bond film that was Quantum Of Solace, of course the producers are going to bring back certain classic Bond elements in order to try and win back the fans that are upset. Will Skyfall be better than Quantum Of Solace? Possibly. There's nowhere to go but up after that last horrible effort. It would be really something if they managed to make Skyfall even worse than Quantum Of Solace. But if I didn't care for Daniel Craig as Bond in his first two films, the chances are I'm probably not going to care for him in Skyfall, despite the film being more Bond-like.

Bond 23 to more Bond-like or not, I'm not going to see it even if it is great. If Bond 23 surpasses CR's numbers, you might as well have someone like Marty Feldman as Bond.



Or Shane McGowan. Or maybe not, considering Mr. McGowan has fixed his teeth that he's no longer a weirdo to be Bond.



If not Shane, then him as potential Bond:

[bjmdds]

Spiderman cost Sony $230 million to make. I don't know why it should cost so much for these 3-D and Imax effects, but it does. I would guess they spent at least $170 million to advertise and promote it, bring Sony's actual total cost to around $400 million for this junk. It won't gross $800 million worldwide, therefore it will be a net loser before post theatre dvds, etc., are sold. How can they justify this? These studios are idiots and those running them lose more in the long run than they make. How does this continue?

According to this article, Marvel spent $100 million to market the Avengers. Do you really think they spent $70 million more to market Spiderman?

http://www.mediamarketjournal.com/2012/ ... nd-market/

They usually say it costs as much if not more than the film's cost to market any films. I gave $170 million as 3/4 of the cost of the budget added on. Maybe Q knows how much a studio spends on publicity and advertising.

[bjmdds]

After that anti-Bond film that was Quantum Of Solace, of course the producers are going to bring back certain classic Bond elements in order to try and win back the fans that are upset. Will Skyfall be better than Quantum Of Solace? Possibly. There's nowhere to go but up after that last horrible effort. It would be really something if they managed to make Skyfall even worse than Quantum Of Solace. But if I didn't care for Daniel Craig as Bond in his first two films, the chances are I'm probably not going to care for him in Skyfall, despite the film being more Bond-like.

Bond 23 to more Bond-like or not, I'm not going to see it even if it is great. If Bond 23 surpasses CR's numbers, you might as well have someone like Marty Feldman as Bond.



Or Shane McGowan. Or maybe not, considering Mr. McGowan has fixed his teeth that he's no longer a weirdo to be Bond.



If not Shane, then him as potential Bond:

FBF, who is your favorite wrestler, given your 3rd picture shown?