The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[FormerBondFan]

FBF, IF this trash grosses a dime more than CR, never mind QOS, it will state a deterioration of the global psyche to embrace such rubbish.

Now we're on the same page.

[bjmdds]

Nobody could have ever anticipated the success Marvel's The Avengers has had this summer at the box-office. The superhero mash-up has earned an incredible $615 million in the United States alone and over $1 billion around the globe. Now, it's possible that your favorite superhero team could be headed to the small screen, with an Avengers-themed television series on ABC.

The project is in the very early stages at the moment and merely "a kernal of an idea." And though the series would be set in the Marvel universe, there wouldn't be a direct connection between the show and Joss Whedon's The Avengers movie. In other words, the series may not feature the same characters.

In related news, The Avengers 2 has been announced with a 2015 release date set. Of course, it would come after the standalone sequels Iron Man 3, Thor: The Dark World and Captain America: The Winter Soldier.

[FormerBondFan]

Marvel is ahead of the game while DC Comics is struggling.

[Kristatos]

FBF, IF this trash grosses a dime more than CR, never mind QOS, it will state a deterioration of the global psyche to embrace such rubbish.

I'll be looking at ticket sales rather than box office gross as an indicator of the global psyche. Less easy to manipulate.

[Kristatos]

Talking of ticket sales, I have been trying to find worldwide admissions for QOS for years. Now, it appears that I have found the figures. According to https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... 2&hl=en_US, the film sold 60.75 million tickets - nearly 20 MILLION FEWER than CR and fewer than any of Brosnan's films Brosnan's least successful film was TND with 75.5 million tickets sold worldwide.

[English Agent]

FBF, IF this trash grosses a dime more than CR, never mind QOS, it will state a deterioration of the global psyche to embrace such rubbish.

I'll be looking at ticket sales rather than box office gross as an indicator of the global psyche. Less easy to manipulate.

Thanks 'Kris'... when i have some spare time i'll look at the figures.

Incidently the OFFICIAL 'SKYFALL' trailer is out now online....and IMO it looked pretty good, at least you could see what was going on in the action pieces.

EA

[FormerBondFan]

FBF, IF this trash grosses a dime more than CR, never mind QOS, it will state a deterioration of the global psyche to embrace such rubbish.

I'll be looking at ticket sales rather than box office gross as an indicator of the global psyche. Less easy to manipulate.

I think what BJ meant is that it's bad image if Bond 23 grosses a dime more than CR.

[bjmdds]

Talking of ticket sales, I have been trying to find worldwide admissions for QOS for years. Now, it appears that I have found the figures. According to https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... 2&hl=en_US, the film sold 60.75 million tickets - nearly 20 MILLION FEWER than CR and fewer than any of Brosnan's films Brosnan's least successful film was TND with 75.5 million tickets sold worldwide.

See this FBF? Brosnan was more popular by admissions, not inflated ticket prices. Kris proved it How can Eon claim success with DC?

[bjmdds]

http://chillertheatre.com/caption.htm Even Chiller Theater is going Bond.

[katied]

Sorry I haven't been around but I'm getting ready to go on a Alaskan cruise.Not sure how much access I'll have to DCINB while I'm on the ship but might try to post at least once while I'm aboard.

[Mazer Rackham]

Talking of ticket sales, I have been trying to find worldwide admissions for QOS for years. Now, it appears that I have found the figures. According to https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... 2&hl=en_US, the film sold 60.75 million tickets - nearly 20 MILLION FEWER than CR and fewer than any of Brosnan's films Brosnan's least successful film was TND with 75.5 million tickets sold worldwide.

Took a glance. I think it doesn't count the US and Canada, if so it's on par with CR I'm going to say CR was 66 to 68 million not counting the US markets.

As a whole maybe 7 to 10 million less than CR.

With these numbers it'd be 83 million total however I think it is actually closer to 78 to 79 if actual tickets sales are counted over estimates.

For the most part the Bond Market has been remarkable steady, on the other hand however it's still Brozza market for the most part with not a lot of growth from 1990s. The size of the worlds market has grown so much since then.

[bjmdds]

Cavill might increase the admissions.

[Gala Brand]

Talking of ticket sales, I have been trying to find worldwide admissions for QOS for years. Now, it appears that I have found the figures. According to https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... 2&hl=en_US, the film sold 60.75 million tickets - nearly 20 MILLION FEWER than CR and fewer than any of Brosnan's films Brosnan's least successful film was TND with 75.5 million tickets sold worldwide.

Took a glance. I think it doesn't count the US and Canada, if so it's on par with CR I'm going to say CR was 66 to 68 million not counting the US markets.

As a whole maybe 7 to 10 million less than CR.

With these numbers it'd be 83 million total however I think it is actually closer to 78 to 79 if actual tickets sales are counted over estimates.

For the most part the Bond Market has been remarkable steady, on the other hand however it's still Brozza market for the most part with not a lot of growth from 1990s. The size of the worlds market has grown so much since then.

While the world market has increased, the North American market has declined for the last decade. The peak year for ticket sales was 2002 (the year of the last Brosnan film). Since then the market has declined by almost 20%, representing about 300 million fewer tickets sold.

http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/

[bjmdds]

FBF, check this out: "The Dark Knight Rises" is on track to become the most successful Batman movie ever, and to soon surpass $1 billion in global box office. Bewkes' comments on "The Dark Knight Rises" mark the first time anyone at Time Warner has publicly discussed the movie's box-office performance. At studio Warner Bros., executives have not commented over the last two weeks due to sensitivity over the killing spree in Colorado that occurred during a screening of the picture.

As a result, it has been difficult to analyze how "The Dark Knight Rises" is performing compared with 2008's "The Dark Knight."

That movie ultimately grossed $1 billion globally. "The Dark Knight Rises" has taken in less money at the domestic box office than its predecessor, during the same amount of time, but Bewkes' comments indicate that the new picture is so far stronger internationally."

[FormerBondFan]

See this FBF? Brosnan was more popular by admissions, not inflated ticket prices.

Yes, Pierce had more admissions, but you said it will be madness if Bond 23 makes even dime more than CR in terms of unadjusted gross. Adjusted or unadjusted, it will be a VERY bad image if Bond 23 becomes a highest grossing movie both worldwide and here in the US.

[Kristatos]

See this FBF? Brosnan was more popular by admissions, not inflated ticket prices.

Yes, Pierce had more admissions, but you said it will be madness if Bond 23 makes even dime more than CR in terms of unadjusted gross. Adjusted or unadjusted, it will be a VERY bad image if Bond 23 becomes a highest grossing movie both worldwide and here in the US.

If you start obsessing over ticket grosses, then you allow EON and Sony to define the terms of success. Ticket price inflation and the lack of any real competition (I just learned today that Anna Karenina has been rated R) virtually guarantee that SF will beat QOS at the box office, and be touted as the BIGGEST BOND MOVIE EVAH! It's our job to get the facts out there about lower admissions and QOS's pathetic DVD sales, for example. These facts are barely reported anywhere, I had to dig pretty deep for those admissions figures. Don't let them get away with it. Shout it from the rooftops that Crag-like is a failure.

[bjmdds]

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/dark-knigh ... 50143.html This is bizarre. Watch this creepy trailer as well.

[FormerBondFan]

Ticket price inflation and the lack of any real competition (I just learned today that Anna Karenina has been rated R) virtually guarantee that SF will beat QOS at the box office, and be touted as the BIGGEST BOND MOVIE EVAH!

I knew Anna Karenina will be rated R, and most artistic films tend to get this rating.

Anyway. If Bond 23 does beat QOS' US numbers and/or worse CR's worldwide numbers at the box office, I'm giving up in bringing back the traditional Bond. You might well as send in those weirdos anyway. If DC's Bond sequels beating their predecessors thanks to ticket price inflation, why not sequels featuring any weirdo as Bond? If you're right, then this is going to be my new avatar, and I'm serious. BJ, what's your take?

[bjmdds]

If Cr-egg stays I want the franchise to end now, but Eon will keep churning out as many films as they can so that the minions can rush to see them.......we need a LTK response to Bond 23 at the box office.

[FormerBondFan]

If Cr-egg stays I want the franchise to end now, but Eon will keep churning out as many films as they can so that the minions can rush to see them.......we need a LTK response to Bond 23 at the box office.

With IMAX and ticket price inflation, EON hopes that Bond 23 will gross high enough to keep DC. Even if Bond 23 gross less than CR's worldwide numbers and/or QOS' US numbers but close, EON will still try to keep him. The question is how are going to get an LTK response to Bond 23. We'll need more forces than just vampires and Bilbo. We can't rely too much on Anna Karenina and Lincoln as they have limited release on the 9th, and of course, the former is rated R, which I can tell from the trailer. I hope Kristen's cheating will have no affect in driving the audience away from the finale. First things first, we're going to need a whole chunks of horrid reviews worse than QOS before it reaches the UK. Second, we need more people's interest in escapism. The Hobbit should be the first thing come to mind this winter season. Third, the economy is bad right now, especially in Europe, and this might explain the declining admissions in the past years. The audience might need some escapism to escape these bad times.