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Romney 's point in that the current occupier's policies have failed, the businesses have not grown, and he wants a chance to correct the decline. Romney is nothing great, however, for the most part, he will improve the economy better than Oh-bama has. Proof of the little O's failure is all that is needed to oust him. The closet European socialist masquerading as a USA President must go. http://money.msn.com/market-news/post.a ... ee80dd9aba The economy created just 69,000 new jobs in May, down from 77,000 in April and 143,000 in March. The payroll gains were much less than the consensus estimate of 150,000. Worse, the payroll gains for April and March were cut by a total of 49,000 jobs. In a note to clients, Ian Shepherdson, chief U.S. economist of High Frequency Economics, summed up the report in three words: "This is horrible."
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But if he appears to be gloating over job losses, he plays directly into the perception of himself as an out-of-touch vulture capitalist who cares nothing for the suffering of ordinary people (not to mention the narrative being pushed by Democrats that Republicans are deliberately tanking the economy for political gain - as with all political campaign narratives, what matters is not whether it's true, but whether people believe it).
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Do not lose sleep over this Kris. Both Bond 23 and the US Presidential election should hopefully decide a new course the SAME week in November :!:
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bjmdds wrote:Do not lose sleep over this Kris. Both Bond 23 and the US Presidential election should hopefully decide a new course the SAME week in November :!:
New course? Whoever wins in November, America will continue to be governed in the interests of the 1% at the expense of everyone else. R-money is just a little more open about it.
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No Cr-egg=better Bond.........no Oh-bama=better economy.....unemployment rate will drop by at least 1%, if Oh-bama loses, over the 12 months after he leaves office. Being in business for myself, and speaking to other of my colleagues, I can tell you private sector investment will occur once he and his policies are retired. What about your country Kris? Who do you want to govern? http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/2C/BB6B9EC13 ... 78FF70.jpg Good riddance to this political trash as well.
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bjmdds wrote:What about your country Kris? Who do you want to govern?
That's a good question, actually. We are in the same position as you, with 99% of the population being effectively without political representation. The famous leaked memos from Citigroup identified the US, UK and Canada as "plutonomies", a term they coined to describe countries whose governments are for sale to the highest bidder (much like Bond).
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Saturday, June 02, 2012: The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Mitt Romney picking up 48% of the vote, while President Obama attracts 44%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.
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bjmdds wrote:Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate
That'll be the Paulbots, I'll wager.
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Obama's Solicitor General, and recent appointment to the bench, has leaked to Obama the courts vote of last Friday was 5/4 to strike down Obama's health care law. Look to see the Democrats heavy hand in trying to get the decision changed before the June announcement..
Obama May Be In Deep Trouble... with Chief Justice John Roberts, US Supreme Court Anthony G. Martin - North St. Paul News
According to sources who watch the inner workings of the federal government, a smack-down of Barack Obama by the US Supreme Court may be inevitable.

Ever since Obama assumed the office of President, critics have hammered him on a number of Constitutional issues. Critics have complained that much, if not all of Obama's major initiatives run headlong into Constitutional roadblocks on the power of the federal government. Obama certainly did not help himself in the eyes of the Court when he used the venue of the State of the Union address early in the year to publicly flog the Court over its ruling that the First Amendment grants the right to various organizations to run political ads during the time of an election. The tongue-lashing clearly did not sit well with the Court, as demonstrated by Justice Sam Alito, who publicly shook his head and stated under his breath, 'That's not true,' when Obama told a flat-out lie concerning the Court's ruling.

As it has turned out, this was a watershed moment in the relationship between the executive and the judicial branches of the federal government. Obama publicly declared war on the court, even as he blatantly continued to propose legislation that flies in the face of every known Constitutional principle upon which this nation has stood for over 200 years.

Obama has even identified Chief Justice John Roberts as his number one enemy, that is, apart from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and so on. And it is no accident that the one swing-vote on the court, Justice Anthony Kennedy, stated recently that he has no intention of retiring until 'Obama is gone.' Apparently, the Court has had enough. The Roberts Court has signaled, in a very subtle manner, of course, that it intends to address the issues about which Obama critics have been screaming to high heaven. A ruling against Obama on any one of these important issues could potentially cripple the Administration. Such a thing would be long overdue.
First, there is ObamaCare, which violates the Constitutional principle barring the federal government from forcing citizens to purchase something. And no, this is not the same thing as states requiring drivers to purchase car insurance, as some of the intellectually-impaired claim. The Constitution limits the FEDERAL government, not state governments, from such things, and further, not everyone has to drive, and thus, a citizen could opt not to purchase car insurance by simply deciding not to drive a vehicle. In the ObamaCare world, however, no citizen can 'opt out.'

Second, sources state that the Roberts court has quietly accepted information concerning discrepancies in Obama's history that raise serious questions about his eligibility for the office of President. The charge goes far beyond the birth certificate issue. This information involves possible fraudulent use of a Social Security number in Connecticut , while Obama was a high school student in Hawaii . ..
And that is only the tip of the iceberg.

Third, several cases involving possible criminal activity, conflicts of interest, and pay-for-play cronyism could potentially land many Administration officials, if not Obama himself, in hot water with the Court. Frankly, in the years this writer has observed politics, nothing comes close to comparing with the rampant corruption of this Administration, not even during the Nixon years. Nixon and the Watergate conspirators look like choirboys compared to the jokers that populate this Administration.

In addition, the Court will eventually be forced to rule on the dreadful decision of the Obama DOJ suing the state of Arizona . That, too, could send the Obama doctrine of open borders to an early grave, given that the Administration refuses to enforce federal law on illegal aliens.

And finally, the biggie that could potentially send the entire house of cards tumbling in a free-fall is the latest revelation concerning the Obama-Holder Department of Justice and its refusal to pursue the New Black Panther Party. The group was caught on tape committing felonies by attempting to intimidate Caucasian voters into staying away from the polls. A whistle-blower who resigned from the DOJ is now charging Holder with the deliberate refusal to pursue cases against Blacks, particularly those who are involved in radical hate-groups, such as the New Black Panthers, who have been caught on tape calling for the murder of white people and their babies. This one is a biggie that could send the entire Administration crumbling--that is, if the Justices have the guts to draw a line in the sand at the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html A HUGE blow to the Democrats and their bogus election which was based on made up names.
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What?

I get Walker and the unions over stepping their true power. Not anti Union it just they and the businesses fats cats there were created to fight have switched places.


I could believe the ruling on health care has been leaked but I don't get the rest of the story .
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html Billy Boy knows what he is doing to Oh-bama :!: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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bjmdds wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html A HUGE blow to the Democrats and their bogus election which was based on made up names.
A huge blow to the workers of Wisconsin too, if Walker manages to stay out of jail long enough to turn it into a so-called "right-to-work" state (a classic piece of Orwellian doublespeak, as I know from my years living in one).
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I don't think it is a blow to the workers of Wis. I don't know a lot about walker besides his a republican darling rigth now. I am afraid of what the union were becoming and I'm not so sure public sector workers should be unionised, pretty sure fed employees are not allowed to do it. How do they negotiation anything when they guy for the states isn't really responsible for it, at least a business has to weight the consistences
but the car industry in the US put itself underwater with bad union deals, and bad management unions aren't blame for all the problems.

And the unions are too political and corrupt. I think if the Pub Sector unions want to maintain their cushy contracts they need to start police themselves better, make it possible to fire bad employees, instead of the never ending nightmare of bad teachers and cops, and whoever else sitting in a room being paid to do nothing. IF the unions want to keep the big pay days they need to guarante the quality of the workers. If we as the public are paying essentially for the best we ought to get it.
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Democrat Says Obama Will Lose if Election Focuses on His Record
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Updated: June 4, 2012 | 6:38 a.m.
June 3, 2012 | 2:11 p.m.

Democratic adviser Robert Shrum warned on Sunday that President Obama will lose his re-election bid if the focus of the presidential race remains on the economy and the president’s record.
“If you let this just be a referendum, I don’t think the president can win because the truth of the matter is he may have created over 4.3 million jobs, he may have saved General Motors, but the country is still not back to where it needs to be,” Shrum said on the CBS’s Face the Nation. “This needs to be a choice election…And if [voters] have that choice I think the president is going to be just fine.”
Shrum made the comments in response to the poor job numbers that were released on Friday and the Obama administration’s attempts to contrast the White House’s efforts to restart the economy to Mitt Romney’s record on jobs as governor of Massachusetts and at a private equity firm Bain Capital.
Appearing on the same program, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, however, said it was “laughable” to claim the election is not a referendum on Obama’s record. “Are you kidding, of course that’s how you run elections,” she said. She added, “Really, it is his record that will win the election” for Romney. (Shrum is as liberal as they come and he looks just like Peter Pettigrew from Harry Potter).
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bjmdds wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... _blog.html A HUGE blow to the Democrats and their bogus election which was based on made up names.
A huge blow to the workers of Wisconsin too, if Walker manages to stay out of jail long enough to turn it into a so-called "right-to-work" state (a classic piece of Orwellian doublespeak, as I know from my years living in one).
Wisconsin unemployment rate is lower than the national average. Unions are corrupt entities. In NYC policemen retire after 20 years with 3/4 yearly pay. Same with firefighters and sanitation workers. Teachers can retire after 33 years earning over $80,000 per year with benefits upon retirement. The United Auto union had workers retire with $100,000 in pensions. These goodies cannot be maintained with yearly cost of living increases. It's all over for unions in the USA in terms of getting paid more and more by having taxpayers pay more and more. Walker will win. Romney will win. Union big shots can go to hell.
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bjmdds wrote:
Kristatos wrote:[Wisconsin unemployment rate is lower than the national average. Unions are corrupt entities. In NYC policemen retire after 20 years with 3/4 yearly pay. Same with firefighters and sanitation workers. Teachers can retire after 33 years earning over $80,000 per year with benefits upon retirement. The United Auto union had workers retire with $100,000 in pensions. These goodies cannot be maintained with yearly cost of living increases. It's all over for unions in the USA in terms of getting paid more and more by having taxpayers pay more and more. Walker will win. Romney will win. Union big shots can go to hell.
Not for long Since Walker took office, WI has lost more jobs than any other state in the country, and is second to last for private sector job creation. If he's allowed to continue his job killing agenda, the unemployment rate will soon drop to that of other [s]slave[/s] right-to-work states. As for the rest, I don't see anything terrible about people having a comfortable living, though I know it doesn't quite jibe with Walker's boss, David Koch's, vision of an America where a few people have everything and everyone else is left fighting over the scraps.
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Riiiiight.

Nothing wrong with having a union, or a right to work state.

Living comfortable? Who is paying for it? What state has the money for it?
These guys are making more money than their privet sector counter parts with benefits CEOs dream of. Walker or no there is a problem with how the unions are doing business. Like I siad if they want top dollar which is what they are demanding then I want the best damned teachers and fire-fighters and the ones who don't meet the standard fired. The unions wont do that and have become more thuggish, states are too easy to push around.

The unions need ot reband themselves fire the current leadership and make a few surprising deals to help out the hurting states with an agreements for better terms when the economy picks up, also put themselves more in the middle of politics, dumbest thing any one can do is be in the bag for one party or the other, make the dems and repubs fight for the union support. Any minority or group should do the same, don't be down the line repub or dem, how much could the black caucus negotiate if they actually talked to the RNC with the possibility of real support and real deals, the dems have take advantage of a lot of community blind support, truly the political parties don't care about people the poeple have to make them work for us, dangle the carrot in front of their faces instead of ours, this Hispanics are the closest to playing the game right and you know what the next president will probably get immigration reform done, I don't think Obama will even if reelected I don't think he'll have the political will to do it.
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Wanna say one last thing about living comfortably, I'd like everyone to make a good wage, let start by making soldiers pay a lot better too many military families are on food stamps, then lets give federal and staets and local tax exemptions to the soldiers, police, firefighters amd teachers, for their salary second jobs or investment income should be taxed.
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It bothers me so many are trying to milk the system either set it up so we all can milk it or fix the fraud and keep things fair. I'm wiling to do more for the employees vital to our society but are they willing to do more for us? too many aren't. For me it comes down to give me good people and I'll make sure we pay them good. I grew up with teachers the were bad at their job and moved upwards, I don't want that for anybody. Known good teachers too but it was so much harder to single them out in the system.

The school system is a weird mess so it probably unfair to target them among all the state employees
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Sorry Kris but your statement does not equate to fiscal sanity in NYC . A person that can retire after only 20 years working at age 40, and go do something else, while collecting 3/4 of their salary plus benefits, for LIFE? :shock: This insanity has bankrupted NYC. My friend works the federal government as an auditor for the department of agriculture. In these hard times, the Congress wants them to pay "1.5%" of their salary into their pension funds and health insurance and freeze their pay for 2 more years. This sounds reasonable given a $16 trillion debt and $1 trillion yearly deficits. His response is NO WAY. He wants to pay ZERO into his pension and DEMANDS a raise to boot :!: I argue with him all the time. My business is down 20% in this weak economy and nobody is making up my difference being self-employed. These constant goodies cannot be sustained any longer. DONE.
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