The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Thunderpussy]

It's not just the Italians Alessandra, Look at Ireland the same Party in power for god knows how long, Just passing the leadership on to the next ( Huge political Brain ) Each new leader more Corrupt and More stupid than the last.

[stockslivevan]

Disney's The Lone Ranger got scrapped. You'd think the reason was because of Cowboys and Aliens flopping (I believe that's a part of it) but it turns out that it's because they can't make it with a lower budget than $250 million. Um, WHAT? How the **** does a western movie cost $250 million? Were there going to be Transformers in this flick? Is Johnny Depp demanding $150 million a film these days? WTF is going on at Disney?

Movie budgets are just getting too bloated these days. In 2009 a small little science fiction movie called Moon came out and that cost only 5 million and if you watched it you would assume Hollywood would have had it at maybe 50 million. I didn't care about Super 8 but that had 50 million and that makes sense given the special effects and being carried by TV actors and children.

[Kristatos]

Disney's The Lone Ranger got scrapped. You'd think the reason was because of Cowboys and Aliens flopping (I believe that's a part of it) but it turns out that it's because they can't make it with a lower budget than $250 million. Um, WHAT? How the **** does a western movie cost $250 million? Were there going to be Transformers in this flick? Is Johnny Depp demanding $150 million a film these days? WTF is going on at Disney?

I'll bet Depp's salary was a big part of it. I believe he's now the highest-paid movie star. I'd also heard they were having problems finding someone to play the Lone Ranger to his Tonto, as there are few actors charismatic enough not to get completely acted off the screen, like Orlando Bloom was in Pirates of the Caribbean.

[JackWade CIA]

$200-plus-million budget

Somebody is getting the money I'd bet for producing.
Pierce Brosnana's western,a far superior product to Cowboys & Aliens has a better story, charters and better acting from some very notable names didn't cost $20 million according to IMDb. It didn't make a dime, then it was not a widely released film. Point being Westerns shouldn't cost a lot. CIG is a no-no for a western. I do not blame Daniel Craig for ruining Cowboys I'd point the finger at Harrison Ford, even thought it was one of his better performances. I bet Ford cost a pretty penny to get since he didn't like the script or much else about it.

BTW Pierce Brosnan's character is a bad ass in Seraphim Falls.

[bjmdds]

Disney's The Lone Ranger got scrapped. You'd think the reason was because of Cowboys and Aliens flopping (I believe that's a part of it) but it turns out that it's because they can't make it with a lower budget than $250 million. Um, WHAT? How the **** does a western movie cost $250 million? Were there going to be Transformers in this flick? Is Johnny Depp demanding $150 million a film these days? WTF is going on at Disney?

I'll bet Depp's salary was a big part of it. I believe he's now the highest-paid movie star. I'd also heard they were having problems finding someone to play the Lone Ranger to his Tonto, as there are few actors charismatic enough not to get completely acted off the screen, like Orlando Bloom was in Pirates of the Caribbean.

Depp was to be Tonto? Are they crazy?

[stockslivevan]

$200-plus-million budget

Somebody is getting the money I'd bet for producing.
Pierce Brosnana's western,a far superior product to Cowboys & Aliens has a better story, charters and better acting from some very notable names didn't cost $20 million according to IMDb.

An unfair comparison given that the Neeson/Brosnan film wasn't a tentpole film featuring aliens attacks. A better comparison for Seraphim Falls is probably True Grit which was made for $38 million and got back $249 million. That's roughly what a film like The Lone Ranger should be aiming for, but I guess Disney is more concerned of producing a film that would make a billion worldwide. I think they're better off without Johnny Depp, let him continue with the Pirate films instead.

BTW Pierce Brosnan's character is a bad ass in Seraphim Falls.

He's very good in anything that isn't a James Bond film. Have you seen The Fourth Protocol?

[FormerBondFan]

Have you seen The Fourth Protocol?

I need to see that, and I heard he's at his most darkest there.

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

Have you seen The Fourth Protocol?

I need to see that, and I heard he's at his most darkest there.

It's a good movie.

[katied]

Apparently there is *definitely* going to be another Austin Powers movie All the more reason for EON not to reintroduce some of the retro elements from the old films.

[stockslivevan]

It was on Netflix awhile ago in HD. It's a pretty good late-80s Cold War thriller. I was relieved to finally watch it because of its unavailability in the US. It's very strange that a film starring Michael Caine and Pierce Brosnan never got a DVD release. Also IIRC there were plenty of other actors who had a role in a Bond film such as Julian Glover. Cinematographer Phil Meheux also shot it, who also did GE and CR.

It's not Brosnan's best performance but it shows he could play an unrelenting character with a cold nature to him, something EON probably was not interested in 1995 given how the US audiences thought Dalton was too dark. Ironically his character in that film literally fits Honor Blackman's inaccurate description of Bond as someone who can kill a lady in bed after having sex with her.

[stockslivevan]

Apparently there is *definitely* going to be another Austin Powers movie All the more reason for EON not to reintroduce some of the retro elements from the old films.

If Craig's comments on Bond 23 being more of a "classic Bond film" are anything to go by it may already be true. Not surprising given the mixed reaction to QOS.

As for Austin Powers 4... Seems like a waste to make. Myers had his day in the 90s, it's over for him. I think he's better off starring in ensemble films like his appearance in Inglourious Basterds.

The only thing I think he'd do with an Austin Powers 4 is play himself frozen in 1997 then unthawed in 2012 realizing how pointless an Austin Powers sequel is by that time.

The guy needs to do something new.

[Kristatos]

If Craig's comments on Bond 23 being more of a "classic Bond film" are anything to go by it may already be true.

Didn't he say the same thing about QOS?

[katied]

Ugh..Austin Powers was funny..back in 1997. Not so much now. All of the films have aged badly.

[English Agent]

I was in a shop this evening when i saw an image of DC on the front cover of 'Esquire' magazine.

I had a perusal thru' the interview inside the magazine, but there were no hints as to what we could expect for Bond 23.

He did mention though that the filming of QOS was a less than satisfying experience, and that it was ridiculous that the filmakers went into the film with a half cocked script.

I got the impression that he is doing Bond 23, as he hopes to revive the role from his perspective, as he did in CR.

[Alessandra]

Meantime in Smallville...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... =1&theater

There are so many fantastic photos of this tornado scene they're setting up and of the entire set, I don't even know where to begin. There's also a great video of the actual filming of a part of the tornado scene with Cavill, Costner and Diane Lane. I'm amazed by how manic they are being with details for the town, it sure looks like they're putting in both the effort and the competence to make a really good movie.

And while we already have all this for a movie to premiere in 2013... NOTHING on Bond 23. I am just at a loss for words, really.

I didn't like even the first few Austin Powers movies so I don't think this one will get my attention They're SO out of ideas in Hollywood it is amazing. They're RE-making Dirty Dancing. I am outraged, I love that movie it's part of my childhood, and there they go and remake it, with the added insult that the actor who was the protagonist died only last year. Even not considering that, I'd like to know who the hell they think they can replace Patrick Swayze with. The girl isn't too much of a problem, but him? Are you kidding me? (And yes I've seen people suggesting Cavill for the part thanks, but no thanks LOL. He's got bigger fish to fry and different heroes to play). I'd just really like to know where they think they can dig up an ACTOR who is also a DANCER like Patrick Swayze was. Only one I can think of is Gilles Marini, and I don't think a handsome man with a French accent in his 40s exactly meets the requirements. And, the Footloose remake will be released in the fall. WTF? Nobody can be bothered to write an original screenplay anymore?!

At this rate, they'll remake "Gone With the Wind", too. You just wait.

He did mention though that the filming of QOS was a less than satisfying experience, and that it was ridiculous that the filmakers went into the film with a half cocked script.

I got the impression that he is doing Bond 23, as he hopes to revive the role from his perspective, as he did in CR.

Given what he's saying now and what he said back then about QoS, I expect Bond 23 to be EXACTLY the same as QoS. His statements back when QoS was being filmed were the EXACT SAME he is making now "it's going to be great! A more classic Bond movie! I want to revive the role!". And yeah, we got that horrendous movie. Also, the role doesn't need to be revived DC, thanks. It needs to be TAKEN BACK TO WHAT IT WAS. Actual James Bond.

[English Agent]

I think that DC was hurt by the reaction to QOS, and that he wants another stab at Bond so as to get the bad feel out of the previous film, out of his system. Remember out of all the criticism of QOS, not much of that was directly aimed at him.......but at the filmakers.

Same thing for PB as in DAD.

EA

[bjmdds]

EA, where's Arthur Brain these days? Is he relieved to know DC days as Bond are now numbered? Has he been safe in the UK with the recent unrest? Bratton was my police commissioner under Mayor Giuliani. They both had big egos so he left but he knows his onions and should teach the cops in the UK to be more aggressive and cut out being afraid to fight back. Help is on the way: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/08/su ... targe.html Sweeney,and all you UK residents here, be glad he is coming. He will show them how it should be done.

[English Agent]

EA, where's Arthur Brain these days? Is he relieved to know DC days as Bond are now numbered? Has he been safe in the UK with the recent unrest? Bratton was my police commissioner under Mayor Giuliani. They both had big egos so he left but he knows his onions and should teach the cops in the UK to be more aggressive and cut out being afraid to fight back. Help is on the way: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/08/su ... targe.html Sweeney,and all you UK residents here, be glad he is coming. He will show them how it should be done.

Arthur Brain...havnt heard from him in a while..........i thought he was a good chap!

The riots in the UK cities seem to of stopped now.....the thugs have been sent to court....lets hope they get severely dealt with.

Its tragic that some people, will go out on the streets just to kill someone for the thrill of it......even in this day an age of civilisation, its shows that it doesn't take much for some people to resort to their primeval traits.

[bjmdds]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/ Don't look now but the cowboy calamity has fallen to 7th place well behind both the Smurfs and the Apes! Could the box office beating that Spielberg, Grazer, Howard, and Favreau are enduring be the TRUE reason that there has been no news on Bond 23? In this worldwide economy, why would a proven failure at the box office be trusted to do another Bond film, after a 4 year hiatus in the role, and a disaster just released, equal to the budget of the next Bond film?

[stockslivevan]

They're RE-making Dirty Dancing. I am outraged, I love that movie it's part of my childhood, and there they go and remake it, with the added insult that the actor who was the protagonist died only last year. Even not considering that, I'd like to know who the hell they think they can replace Patrick Swayze with.

Probably just another bad actor, just like Swayze. So it won't be hard. Frankly I'm not surprised. I'm sure they'll be riffing the Step Up flicks with the emphasis on hip-hop/r&b.

And, the Footloose remake will be released in the fall. WTF? Nobody can be bothered to write an original screenplay anymore?!

It's not that people in Hollywood are running out of ideas, it's that they're scared of original ideas at all. Hollywood in recent years has become dependent on brand names because they're a lot more easy to market than original movies. Why make an original buddy cop film when you could do a remake of Lethal Weapon thus have a higher percentage of movie goers interested in something that is familiar? There's a good article suggesting that Hollywood truly is afraid to make movies like INCEPTION which is ironic given how good that did.

At this rate, they'll remake "Gone With the Wind", too. You just wait.

They'll remake anything, don't be surprised.