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Goldeneye » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:00 am
http://frostmagazine.com/2011/03/bond-b ... lain-dr-no
by Amy Wallington
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It seems the rumour mill that is Bond 23 has finally made a decision and is going ahead after all, this film has changed its mind so many times that the audience would have more faith in an Eastender’s extra winning next years’ OSCAR than the famous line ‘Bond, James, Bond’ being resounded on multiplexes nationwide. But alas, we go forth under the notion that it is actually happening or at least for this present moment in time it shall be.

It is common knowledge to most, that Bond 23 has had a wealth (pardon the pun) of production problems, mainly due to financial difficulties. There were doubts amongst many as to whether or not this film would happen or whether it would remain on some studio shelf gathering a lifetime’s supply of dust. Devastating news at first to most fans of the series, and probably a shock to the Oscar winning director Sam Mendes slated to work on said Bond flick, but these fears were not to last long, and by some magical miracle it now appears everything is going ahead just as planned. I guess we are to just ignore the melodrama that was ‘we have no money,’ it seems in movieland, problems can be resolved in the quickest of fashions.

But with us now heading into a 23rd Bond, one must look to answer many questions, do we as a collective audience actually want another Bond film, the answer is no doubt, a resounding yes! We want Bond Back. Not just any Bond though, we want our Bond back; the British Bond, the Bond who had charisma, the cool suave character who could take out a room with a single glare, not this emotionally destroyed man who would be far greater suited for a guest appearance on a psychiatrists’ couch or even the Jeremy Kyle Show to discuss his many deep rooted issues, before being allowed to even appear in the same room as live weaponry.

I am not saying that Daniel Craig has not been a great Bond, he has indeed, he took the role in a new direction that some may argue was much needed after, should I even say it aloud, Die Another Day. An apparent signage to a trilogy of Bond films meant a succession of storyline unlike any other Bond film, but there are many issues to contend with when doing a series, rather than a one off. The storyline has to be fantastic, truly gripping; enough to hold the attention of an entire audience, a tale that will ultimately leave them wanting the next development in the continued saga.

Now Casino Royale set up the trilogy perfectly, with Craig at its helm providing a stellar performance as a different type of Bond, certainly a performance to divide a room of Bond enthusiasts especially those who picked Brosnan, Connery or Moore as their favourite that’s for sure. Casino Royale was a step into the past; an uncovering of the original theme laid out by creator Ian Flemming. It certainly delivered on this, giving us a more realistic and gritty Bond that most of us were not accustom to. Casino Royale was almost the Bond film for those that dislike Bond films! Then came Quantum of Solace, now every part of me wanted to enjoy the second outing by Craig, after what was a top-notch effort for the first part. But to claim I was delighted would almost be like saying Catwoman was the best of the Batman series. My disappointment wasn’t just in Craig’s performance, he wasn’t exactly given the best Bond film to work within, and yes a writer’s strike could be cause for production to slack. I feel though these were not the biggest faults surrounding the project. It wasn’t so much what terrible things made up the motion picture, more what lacked in terms of the entire production, where was M? Where were all the other characters for that matter? Where was the cool car? Not some hybrid! Where were all the gadgets? Where was everything that makes you go, YES! That was a Bond film! It just wasn’t…

But the past is the past, and the anticipation of 23 is enough to warm the cockles of every Bond fan around. What can Sam Mendes do? With a history of known successes and even awards upon his shelf, he truly is the man to bring Bond back from the darkness. The question arises now, where does Bond go from Quantum, does Mendes stick with the trio and push forward hard to keep the remainder of audience left over from Solace, or does he take it in a completely new direction. I certainly hope the latter. He needs to bring back that element of Bond that made the series so welcomed for the first 21 films. Bring back the charisma that we all know and love. Bond needs to be fun, more of a jaunty tale, not something you have to part with every emotion, just to follow the dramatic story.

With Ralph Fiennes rumoured to be Brit-ing up the bad guy, things are certainly looking up, I do pose the question however, would the series improve if the man playing Bond were also replaced? Could a new face steer Bond away from being another Bourne imitation and back to the heyday of the British Spy. Whatever direction they choose to take Bond, I for one am excited!
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Jackman to the rescue.
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FormerBondFan » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:45 am
Traditional Bond for DC or not, I'm not excited and never will be
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Alessandra » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:28 am
But the past is the past, and the anticipation of 23 is enough to warm the cockles of every Bond fan around. What can Sam Mendes do? With a history of known successes and even awards upon his shelf, he truly is the man to bring Bond back from the darkness. The question arises now, where does Bond go from Quantum, does Mendes stick with the trio and push forward hard to keep the remainder of audience left over from Solace, or does he take it in a completely new direction. I certainly hope the latter. He needs to bring back that element of Bond that made the series so welcomed for the first 21 films. Bring back the charisma that we all know and love. Bond needs to be fun, more of a jaunty tale, not something you have to part with every emotion, just to follow the dramatic story.


Except that is exactly the type of movie Mendes does, the "part with every emotion just to follow the dramatic story" thing. Or rather, "make it as dark and twisty as possible because all that matters is characters' turmoil". I don't know how anyone can even think for a sec that this can even REMOTELY be good, ESPECIALLY with Mendes at the helm. He is no action director and "fun, more of a jaunty tale" doesn't fit with Mendes AT ALL.

Sigh, BJ, I wish that was possible, but sadly... Hugh is working on the new Wolverine (and man is he in shape.. and he is on a diet to buff up, as in he eats like a horse and works out like mad, his muscles are literally bulging). And I don't think there's any more hope for him to take over. I'd love to see him for a couple of movies, I really would. Anyhow we have Cavill thankfully. Obviously not with this line-up. With the director and writers they have chosen, not even Jackman or Cavill could save the day. We need to spend the proverbial five minutes of terror with Babs and make her GO. That's the only way. FBF, I have the stilettos, are you ready to bring in Fat Seagal? :lol:
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Let's bring in Fat Seagal....and this guy.

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Thunderpussy » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:52 am
I've grown to Hate Craig so much in the role,that even it they made the next Movie as good as Golfinger or TSWLM, I don't think I'd like it, afterall Craigs in it. I too am not happy with Mendes as Director.
Can't say I'm even excited about Bond 23, I just have bad feelings on how it seem to be turning out. :cry:
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shaken not stirred » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:52 am
Is this article stupid?, mendez will make bond emo. craig likes the stupid artsy crap and finally babs got him by the balls literlally and he's her bitch and he's shamed the character completely in drag....and people still want to see him as bond and it's below him hence why he did bond in drag in the first place, any self respecting actor as would've laughed if ms piggy (babs) told them to do that.

Again I don't want to look at the mona bond we all want Bond James Bond back, you can't get that with craigs bondinator who goes through walls, kills a million people and has no emotions, i also hated the torture scene in casino royale, it was stupid, craigs bond was making jokes but in the books he passes out from the pain, whereas bond in die another day in the first half went through pretty d**n brutal torture, which some of the craig fanboys pretend didn't happen you know since brosnan never played a vulnerable bond along with the rest of the actors who played him before...did we really need an even more vulnerable bond..this bond couldn't escape if his own shoelaces were tied together, what a wimp, real bond in most cases always found a way out or in goldfingers case managed to call his bluff and he turned the machine off, we went from killer piranhas, lasers on an operating table, killer female femme fatales, guys who could decap you with a spinning hat or kill you by biting your neck (ie jaws) and one who could break your neck and got pleasaure from it....to bond getting hit in the nads with a piece of rope, nothings more cowardly then hitting someone there, what happened to putting a blunt instrument near their face, hitting them repeatedly in the face.

I give up bond may as well be put on national art channel now for all I care till babs gets lost.

The names bored, very bored , James bond: licensed to yawn.
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Thunderpussy » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:33 pm
I like the term "Emo Bond " I can imagine Craig's Bond doing a bit of self-harming, listening to Coldplay full of teenage agnst, But hold on Isin't He supposed to be Bloddy James Bond ! a man who has killed and had people close to him die. He can throw friends into Dumsters when they get killed, so why all the rest of the emotional crap.
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Blowfeld » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:50 pm
We want Bond Back. Not just any Bond though, we want our Bond back; the British Bond, the Bond who had charisma, the cool suave character who could take out a room with a single glare, not this emotionally destroyed man who would be far greater suited for a guest appearance on a psychiatrists’ couch or even the Jeremy Kyle Show to discuss his many deep rooted issues, before being allowed to even appear in the same room as live weaponry.


I do think the majority of fans and causal fans are hungry for some good old fashion 007. For some reason people writing what is a essentially condemnation of the recent movies feel the need to cushion it as to not be seen attacking Craig. However it is his approach to 007 they are longing for a release from. I do think most casual fans really want to see an adventure with the British Bond described in the article
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Blowfeld wrote:Blowfeld » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:50 pm
We want Bond Back. Not just any Bond though, we want our Bond back; the British Bond, the Bond who had charisma, the cool suave character who could take out a room with a single glare, not this emotionally destroyed man who would be far greater suited for a guest appearance on a psychiatrists’ couch or even the Jeremy Kyle Show to discuss his many deep rooted issues, before being allowed to even appear in the same room as live weaponry.
I do think the majority of fans and causal fans are hungry for some good old fashion 007. For some reason people writing what is a essentially condemnation of the recent movies feel the need to cushion it as to not be seen attacking Craig. However it is his approach to 007 they are longing for a release from. I do think most casual fans really want to see an adventure with the British Bond described in the article
I agree. Problem is with the people they hired for this movie, and Craig as the lead, there is no way this is EVER going to happen. That's where the article fails IMO. The concept that Mendes would make a fun, traditional Bond is frankly laughable. He is a director of extremely dark, and yes EMO movies, so we'll most definitely get more of QoS unless he is brainwashed and Logan is, too. Hm, actually that's an idea... FBF? Let's go! Fat Seagal ready?
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FormerBondFan » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:05 pm

Alessandra wrote:
FBF? Let's go! Fat Seagal ready?


And this individual also.
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