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Can Bond make the deadline?

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Deadline : Can 'Star Trek 2' Morph From 70-Page Outline To Summer Tent Pole In 13 Months?
Can 'Star Trek 2' Morph From 70-Page Outline To Summer Tent Pole In 13 Months?

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Paramount isn't confirming any of this, but I'm told that there soon should be good news and bad news on the Star Trek sequel front. The good news: With his film Super 8 set for release June 10, JJ Abrams is expected to announce shortly his return as director of Star Trek 2. The bad news: Even moving at warp speed, Abrams will be hard pressed to make the June 29, 2012 release date that the studio set for the film. I'm told that the move being considered right now is to push Trek back for a Holiday 2012 release. This comes after Paramount pushed back the other franchise film in its arsenal that has Chris Pine as its star. Pine's also playing Jack Ryan in the reboot of the Tom Clancy-created series. Pine was expected to shoot that film first, but the script wasn't ready. Paramount hired David Koepp to rewrite Adam Cozad's script. Koepp just began writing this week after completing his film Premium Rush.

Why is Star Trek in such precarious shape, just 13 months before its release date? The film has three top-flight writers in Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman and Damon Lindelof. Like Abrams, all of them have been busy on other films. Kurtzman directed Welcome to People. Orci has been busy on Cowboys & Aliens and in prepping the Gavin Hood-directed sci-fi epic Ender's Game. Lindelof has been busy working on Prometheus, the Ridley Scott film for Fox that was conceived as a 3D prequel until Lindelof came on to do a rewrite and changed the concept so much that they consider it an original. The result? It doesn't sound like they are close to having a script that will live up to the high quality of the first film that revived a dead franchise. On the Trekkie fan site Trekmovie.com, Orci confessed this week that they have a 70-page outline, and are waiting for Abrams to commit so that they can really get going. Well, that is hardly an enviable position to be in, exactly 13 months before the release of the film. Orci suggested in the interview they could prep the film from an outline. That is hard, particularly for a sophisticated, futuristic science fiction film. This is basically what happened on Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, and director Michael Bay has been open about the fact that the rush to make a release date with a script that wasn't ready hurt the film. The cost of a Vfx-heavy film rushing like this raises the budget considerably.

Don't be surprised if Paramount and Abrams push back six months at least. While Paramount doesn't have the Marvel movies anymore, the studio could slot its G.I. Joe sequel for that early-summer release (I've heard other studios are now eyeing that date, too). Unless Koepp does an amazing job quickly and gives the studio a Jack Ryan movie that's ready to go, Pine is still expected to shoot Star Trek first. According to the studio, nothing falls into place until Abrams declares his intention for the Trek sequel.
Important to remember this since Bond 23 has no finished script, or a script that has barely finished the first draft. No locations, no stars. They do have Danny boy his devoted patron Babs and a artsy director with no business being involved with a proper action franchise. This is where it gets good, not only are the under time pressure, they have successfully complete the project not missing a trick with a slashed budget, to boot with a more than likely decimated P&A budget. Sony and MGM are long lost pals at the moment, and EON owes Sony 2 movies. Opps!

Did I forget to mention after the colossal c**k up Bond 22 (aka Quark) Bond 23 has to hit on all cylinder a misfire may end the possibility of healthy Bond 24 and the franchise. I'd say to EON think fast children, to MGW I'd say what do you want you kids to do? You want the to work the family business you poured you life into? Then this is the moment that makes or breaks their future, they can either make cinema history by continuing Cubby's Bond or give interviews talking about it in past tense and describe in retrospect how their crazy aunt went off the rails destroying their fathers life's work. Choice is yours mate! :twisted:
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It's seeming increasingly doubtful that Bond 23 will be out on time, and if it does, it will be a trainwreck. :->
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I don't think MGM has a choice, in that they CANNOT afford not to release Bond 23 in 2012. Which means, given the current situation, that they'll put out something that is FAR from well thought-of and well-made. I can't believe how late they are, it's surreal. Of course others (like my beloved JJ Abrams) who are actually talented filmmakers, would NEVER put out a movie in such circumstances and WILL delay the release if they don't have what's needed. And this with TOP CLASS writers (notice, two out of those three are the ones I want for Bond). Sigh, the day Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman plus Jeff Eastin write a Bond movie will never come soon enough. Or it will never come, period, if they don't kick Babs's ass out of the producing process. Nobody sane would ever want to be a writer of a movie that has her involved in production.

Mazer, I honestly don't think they will delay Bond. They can't afford it and they aren't smart enough to admit they screwed up. Not to mention.. Craig already LOOKS way too old for the part as is. :lol:
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Alessandra wrote:I don't think MGM has a choice, in that they CANNOT afford not to release Bond 23 in 2012. Which means, given the current situation, that they'll put out something that is FAR from well thought-of and well-made. I can't believe how late they are, it's surreal. Of course others (like my beloved JJ Abrams) who are actually talented filmmakers, would NEVER put out a movie in such circumstances and WILL delay the release if they don't have what's needed. And this with TOP CLASS writers (notice, two out of those three are the ones I want for Bond). Sigh, the day Bob Orci and Alex Kurtzman plus Jeff Eastin write a Bond movie will never come soon enough. Or it will never come, period, if they don't kick Babs's ass out of the producing process. Nobody sane would ever want to be a writer of a movie that has her involved in production.

Mazer, I honestly don't think they will delay Bond. They can't afford it and they aren't smart enough to admit they screwed up. Not to mention.. Craig already LOOKS way too old for the part as is. :lol:
Star Trek 2 (not II as in TWOK) may pushed back to holiday season of '12, giving DC's Bond 23 a disadvantage hopefully.
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Yeah, if they delay Star Trek II and it goes up right against Bond 23, Bond 23 is going to be crushed. But since I DO want an alive franchise to be passed over to Henry Cavill, I don't want Bond 23 to be CRUSHED. Which is what'll happen if it's up directly against Star Trek II. So I'm just hoping that they are taught a lesson, obviously, and that Bond 23 doesn't do as well as they expect, but nothing more than that... just whatever is enough to oblige them to freaking understand Craig has to GO and they need to get back to a CLASSIC Bond movie.
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I hate to say this but I think Bond 23's trailer(when it comes out) will be what either makes it, or sinks it.(probably sinks it.) :P
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I am not so sure they can make it if the Star Trek people can't do why can the Bond people do it. On the other hand if Trek does move to November 2012 I would bet MGM will move Bond 23 to 2013 to avoid a massacre
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Omega wrote:I am not so sure they can make it if the Star Trek people can't do why can the Bond people do it. On the other hand if Trek does move to November 2012 I would bet MGM will move Bond 23 to 2013 to avoid a massacre

Not that Bond 23 is going to set the box office alight,given all the problems-false starts,etc. where to freaking start? As Alessandra said, the Bond franchise shouldn't die, but what's been going on, is, well, assisted suicide. :evil:
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katied wrote:I hate to say this but I think Bond 23's trailer(when it comes out) will be what either makes it, or sinks it.(probably sinks it.) :P
Bond 23 trailer: bond wakes up, after looking like he's taken a beating we found out bond was just forcing out a number 2, still grumpy as always bond decided to cheer himself up by listening to my chemical romance, bored with nothing to do bond decides to....wear womens clothing(yep the pta wasn't beeping around), bond later gets into a fight with a drunk hobo who mistakenly thought bond was one also, after killing the hobo with nothing but a pout on him afterwards bond ventures into somerfields, looking to get his favourite fish and chips for a bargain price, the evil manager only known as bob raises the price by 15p, this enrages bond and bond goes into another hulk rage, punching through walls as if he was insanely influened by the new adventures of superman intro, after unecessarily chasing the manager up the building who also happens to know parkour bond tells him to lower the price and he'll save his life, unaware or mostly uncaring, bond gets angrier, he later swings from the structure as if he was one of the missing apes from tarzan or planet of the apes, bond kills the manager and a lot of people down below, happy with himself bond makes a bigger pout goes home to sit down to watch the daily news, bond recieves his latest mission.....to get a dozen bananas from somerfield before the evil higher up of ms gets them before her, uttering his last words before the trailer ends bond says.

bond: they'll pay......zero point eighty nine pence (bond does an insane pout that causes the fabric of the universe to be ripped apart and trailer ends), bond returns in bond 23: shopping for solace (or)

bond 23: you a tealing me apat quantum
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Just read your plot summary shaken not stirred. Now come clean...

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If they think sherlock might miss the deadline what about Bond?
Should 'Mission: Impossible 4' Move?
Two high-profile action sequels with awkward subtitles are on a collision course this holiday season: both Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol and Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows are scheduled for Dec. 16 (opposite Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked, which shouldn't conflict with either one). Mission's studio Paramount Pictures and Sherlock's Warner Bros. reiterated to Box Office Mojo that they're each sticking with Dec. 16.

While comparable movies can thrive in the same period, especially during a bustling time like December, it can be a problem when they open on the same day. Usually, somebody flinches. Otherwise, there's possible cannibalization or the lesser movie suffers.

To solve this potential problem, it would be good for Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol to move out of the way of Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows (if it's completed in time). Sure, Mission 4 scheduled the Dec. 16 date first (pushed back from May 27), but it's the more vulnerable movie. It's attempting to revive the franchise, whereas Sherlock 2 is coming off of a $209-million grossing predecessor from December 2009 (opposite the last Chipmunks movie) and will feature Holmes' most famous villain Moriarty.
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