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bjmdds wrote:Happy birthday Ale! :cheers: :yay: :happybd: :NewYears: :NewYears:
Happy Birthday!! :cheers:
Thank you!! :mrgreen:
Grammy's last night proved Lady Gag-gag is nothing more than a Madonna clone. There was basically no difference in her sound/look to Madonna. I think the public might be tiring of her 'self proclaimed' mastering of the art of fame while she drinks alcohol and smokes pot and wears underwear during her interviews. She actually refers to herself as a superstar. Her ego is writing checks she cannot cash ala Maverick in Top Gun. Mick Jagger showed them all how to do it. The album of the year went to a band few people even know and their performance was abysmal. That probably makes them Eon material.
Oh right! Lady Gag-Gag, perfect nickname! I cannot freaking stand the woman. And sorry, while Madonna is absolutely nothing much musically speaking, she still was and is WAY better than this self-proclaimed uber star who thinks shock value is all there is to fame. Thing she has in common with Madonna is vulgarity and the need for constant attention. That's where it ends, 'cause the other one was able to build a career that lasted decades. I doubt Lady Gag Gag will even be remembered two years from now. I can't stand her "singing", just no sorry.

The band performance WAS abysmal... totally EON material :lol: Watch them being the composers of the next Bond theme for the credits. Ugh.
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Since it was Alessandra's Birthday I'll say something nice about Cavill. :cheers:

Aside form hearing Cavill's name in the run up to CR and knowing he was heavy favored before Babs midlife crisis, primarily what makes me think his is still in consideration if not the contender is he has never talked out of school about it. Worthington was quick to tell people how he lost out, according to him he was hired and going through SAS training when Craig replaced him. Pascal had favored Owen at one point and in the weeks before Craig was announced tired to get Brozza back. Jackman was approached at one time. We know most of this because the actors came forward after it was clear they lost out. To my recollection Cavill has yet to talk about his experience with Bond which means to me there may still be hope :007: Besides there is a history for a favored actor losing out then getting the gig next time around. :cheers:

Anyway the Deakins interview show how far Mendes is going and how little there is actually happening in the way of script and money. Mendes has to make it happen or it never will, EON is a lumbering dinosaur of old Hollywood. They badly need to update and retool their operation.
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I am patiently waiting for the next round of 'Lady Gaga in talks to preform the Bond 23 theme song'.

Speaking of tabloids I saw one of the girls we had talked about in this thread who would be good next to Henry in Superman had her name mentioned in the casting rumours. I wonder if we are not becoming a 'source' for some of these things. :wink: :lol:
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Happy Belated Birthday Ale, for yesterday. :cheers:
I should have remembered - you share the same day as my mother..... :oops:
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Ale wrote: Well I have an answer to this that you won't expect. I couldn't care LESS about Valentine's Day, and I never have my ENTIRE LIFE. And, it d**n better be Craig and everybody else sending me cards... because IT IS MY BIRTHDAY!
Good to see another one in that camp as well as Me, I hate v day if you're on your own you don't to be out and it feels like everyone's throwing it in your face and you can't escape it.

I like easter, christmas, new year etc but valentines day always makes Me feel depressed and can't usually wait for it to pass so I don't have to feel singled out, (especially because I'm still and always been on My own).

Sorry to sound bitter back on topic happy bday ale, sorry late reply.

Sorry for sounding like a deadweight guys, creggs bond films are usually the only things to do that. :wink: .
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Mazer Rackham wrote:Since it was Alessandra's Birthday I'll say something nice about Cavill. :cheers:

Aside form hearing Cavill's name in the run up to CR and knowing he was heavy favored before Babs midlife crisis, primarily what makes me think his is still in consideration if not the contender is he has never talked out of school about it. Worthington was quick to tell people how he lost out, according to him he was hired and going through SAS training when Craig replaced him. Pascal had favored Owen at one point and in the weeks before Craig was announced tired to get Brozza back. Jackman was approached at one time. We know most of this because the actors came forward after it was clear they lost out. To my recollection Cavill has yet to talk about his experience with Bond which means to me there may still be hope :007: Besides there is a history for a favored actor losing out then getting the gig next time around. :cheers:

Anyway the Deakins interview show how far Mendes is going and how little there is actually happening in the way of script and money. Mendes has to make it happen or it never will, EON is a lumbering dinosaur of old Hollywood. They badly need to update and retool their operation.
Aw, you're so sweet! :cheers: EON really do need to update and retool their operation, it's getting so stale. And, I'm pretty sure there are things going on there that will force Babs to face a different future... Actually, Cavill did talk about Bond once in one interview, and that was the only time I heard him mention the Bond role, but it was because he was asked about ALL the roles that came very close for him. His sentence was "Superman yes, came very close, and Bond came very close as well". It's in this interview with a MORONIC lady who is not even TRYING to look professional. Woman, I am the first one to think he is swoon-worthy but for heaven's sakes, if I am working and interviewing I behave like a professional!! :shock:

This is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTLmPZH8G10

That's the ONLY time he has spoken about Bond. And it was during s3 of the Tudors, so 2009, which means a LONG time after it all happened. I think his grace and politeness are very much appreciated by people in the business. I don't know how he kept being so courteous and polite with that woman. Good Lord. Would have been good to see Craig or Russel Crowe deal with her :lol:
I am patiently waiting for the next round of 'Lady Gaga in talks to preform the Bond 23 theme song'.

Speaking of tabloids I saw one of the girls we had talked about in this thread who would be good next to Henry in Superman had her name mentioned in the casting rumours. I wonder if we are not becoming a 'source' for some of these things. :wink: :lol:
:lol: stay assured they spy us :lol: And since we have far better ideas than most producers, I think they're starting to notice that maybe it's time to use us as source, so that maybe those people get a clue! :lol:

UGH if Lady Gaga does a Bond theme song, LET IT BE for a Craig movie. Full Monty type of service in that case, I won't like anything about the movie, theme song included :lol:I honestly don't even want poor Craig to be dealing with something so bad as a Lady Gaga theme song. Puh-leeze.
Happy Belated Birthday Ale, for yesterday. :cheers:
I should have remembered - you share the same day as my mother..... :oops:
Aw thank you Sweeney! Weren't you busy moving from continent to continent though? I think you have good excuses to forget things these days! :lol:

And, very happy belated birthday to your mom too! :cheers:

Shaken not stirred... NOT TO WORRY, I don't exactly think true love spells Valentine's Day. And as I said, never cared about it since I have more important things to celebrate. But, you should make it a point to organize an evening with your friends when Valentine's day comes if you feel like others are throwing it in your face! It's a good excuse to celebrate, just with friends though, not as a couple! Which, will definitely be fun, no? :mrgreen:

I'm sure Craig was busy with Weisz, and good for them... so long as she doesn't become a Bond girl because now that they are involved, I really don't think it's a good idea...
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Ale wrote:UGH if Lady Gaga does a Bond theme song, LET IT BE for a Craig movie. Full Monty type of service in that case, I won't like anything about the movie, theme song included :lol:I honestly don't even want poor Craig to be dealing with something so bad as a Lady Gaga theme song. Puh-leeze.
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I'm unsure what the hell is going on in Hollywood for all this to happen at the same time, but most big movies coming out are having MASSIVE script problems. It was reported today that MIB3 is having huge problems and apparently (I REALLY hope that's not the case) Superman: Man of Steel is also having a lot of problems, to the point that WB is concerned they'll have to pay a LOT of money because their rights for the superhero expire in 2013 and they may not make it on time. WTF?

And now this:
BREAKING: Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa Hired To Rework 'Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark' http://dlvr.it/Gmjx2
So clearly, Spiderman is having major problems, too. Is there no way that the idiots who run franchises can hire actually good writers at once? The only ones who didn't have the problem were the people from Star Trek, because hello? JJ Abrams directed it and put his crew on hit, yes my ALIAS crew, yes the man I want to write Bond included (Roberto Orci). By the way, I found out that I completely forgot Alex Kurtzman (also a producer and writer of the new Star Trek, and of Hawaii Five-0) ALSO was in the Alias writing team and was in the writing team of possibly the best-ever episode of the series. In fact:
Alex Kurtzman & Bob Orci hope to turn in first draft of STAR TREK sequel script "in six weeks or so." http://tinyurl.com/6gnayq6
So since he (or she, I'm unsure. Checked, it's a he) always works with Orci, I think that's another good prospect to add in for a Bond script. Plus of course Jeff Eastin from White Collar (specialized in that refined humor and the style part of it, mixed with the action and mystery).

Still, the question stands. What the HELL is going on with movie scripts these days? I swear the good writers around are all on TV (not coincidentally all of the above mentioned people are on successful TV shows).. and it seems like the stupid, BLIND movie producers can't see straight when it comes to freaking hiring script writers?

This of course applies to Bond first and foremost. Leaving aside Purvis & Wade, the people they hire to "polish" are colossal failures for Bond scripts. I do not know what was changed in QoS, but I think quite a few things, and I do not care how much people have praised Haggis: he did a LOUSY job with that one. He is not someone who should ever work on a Bond script, it's as simple as that. And neither is Logan who will make Bond 23 all doom & gloom, stay assured. Do I have to storm into EON's offices and go Bond girl on them to make them call Orci, Kurtzman and Eastin? Seriously! :gun:
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The scary part is that once QOS was filmed, and edited, and seen by Broccoli and MGW(if they even woke him out of hibernation), how could they possibly believe they had a hit on their hands?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApKt-1-IInY It is incredible to most Bond fans pro and against the eggster that Bond 22 was even released as such trash. If we knew it, Eon should have KNOWN it, and scrapped the film entirely;however, they arrogantly believe the public will come out and see ANYTHING they call a Bond film. That's not the case anymore. Not only do they need a film to do great weekend one, but it needs repeat admissions to gross huge dollars. The writers and directors have failed this franchise for a long time, and Broccoli keeps bringing in more of the same junk for the next film. Forster was not a Bond director. Mendes is not a Bond director. Action, thrills, and suspense are the only criteria required to be a Bond director and writer. Also, cut out the political correctness and anti-USA/UK sentiment and liberal minded environmental BS already, in a Bond film. { I would agree that Michael G Wilson and Barbara had done a fine job producing Bond after the legendary Cubby Broccoli passed away but with the sudden and shock sacking of Pierce Brosnan in favour of that bland, boring, no sense of humour Craig and two very poor movies one wonders what is going on? OK those two bad pictures made tons of money (as did all of Pierce's films) but it seems they have sacrificed what was unique and splendid about 007 - now they are run-of-the mill! SHAME ON THEM!
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Ale wrote: This of course applies to Bond first and foremost. Leaving aside Purvis & Wade, the people they hire to "polish" are colossal failures for Bond scripts. I do not know what was changed in QoS, but I think quite a few things, and I do not care how much people have praised Haggis: he did a LOUSY job with that one.
I think the script for QOS went through more rewrites than The Flintstones (John Goodman edition). To update an old Hollywood joke about that film, if an infinite number of monkeys is put in front of an infinite number of typewriters, you get the screenplay for QOS. They didn't even bother to keep track of the changes, it seems, hence things like Gemma Arterton being covered in oil even though the McGuffin in the film had been changed from oil supplies to water supplies.
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The new Eon script writers for Bond 23 hard at work. :lol: :lol: :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3xMaZPdi8s
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Kristatos wrote:
Ale wrote: This of course applies to Bond first and foremost. Leaving aside Purvis & Wade, the people they hire to "polish" are colossal failures for Bond scripts. I do not know what was changed in QoS, but I think quite a few things, and I do not care how much people have praised Haggis: he did a LOUSY job with that one.
I think the script for QOS went through more rewrites than The Flintstones (John Goodman edition). To update an old Hollywood joke about that film, if an infinite number of monkeys is put in front of an infinite number of typewriters, you get the screenplay for QOS. They didn't even bother to keep track of the changes, it seems, hence things like Gemma Arterton being covered in oil even though the McGuffin in the film had been changed from oil supplies to water supplies.
I think that joke quite covers it. OH that's right about Gemma Arterton... and with that mockery, they still didn't bother to fix. I would laugh except it's just cringe-worthy. I don't even know what they're up to with the new one, seen as they already had a huge problem with Morgan, that led to him being dismissed and then replaced with Logan (who certainly isn't someone who should write Bond). I can only think that so far it looks like this one is going to be JUST AS MUCH of a steamy pile of BS. Which is just SAD. I just finished telling an adorable guy I've known for long who is obsessed with Craig (yes I know) that he must not even mention that HORRIBLE Fassbender person in my presence. And he goes "but I was thinking Fleming's Bond" so I say "that is EXACTLY where we disagree, seen as Craig has got NOTHING of Fleming's Bond, and this dude, EVEN LESS SO". There is no hope with the Craig fanboys. Just not now or ever. This is actually a really, really nice guy and I love him dearly, but on the Craig subject we will forever be divided :lol:

I am curious to see what is the next piece of news on the script. I really am. With what we've been hearing so far, I am more convinced everyday that this is going to be one hell of a bad movie. I just hope for some miracle it isn't as bad as QoS, and I say so because I don't want the franchise to tank. And I don't want to have yet another dreadful Non Bond movie made. Yet it seems Barbara Broccoli is determined to only make lousy movies. Thing is QoS wasn't just lousy as a Bond movie. It was lousy, period. And if this one ends up being the same type of thing, we are in massive trouble. Which in a way maybe could be good as in she'd be finally kicked out of her effing self-made throne.

LMAO BJ! Actually those monkeys look FAR funnier and nicer than the Eon people to me? :lol: :lol:
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Ugh..so sick of hearing "Fassbender NEEDS to be the next Bond because he has the look!!!!" Don't even *think" about suggesting anyone else over at the fanboy boards. They don't want to know. :roll:
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katied wrote:Ugh..so sick of hearing "Fassbender NEEDS to be the next Bond because he has the look!!!!" Don't even *think" about suggesting anyone else over at the fanboy boards. They don't want to know. :roll:
Fassbender does NOT HAVE THE BOND LOOK AT ALL. He's even got RED freaking hair. He's NOT nearly as attractive as Bond should be and he has got ZERO of the style and charm. He's more of Daniel Craig, and that's the only reason why the Craig fanboys are obsessed with him. Good Lord. I don't think they get it that even if (which hopefully won't be the case) Cavill doesn't replace Craig, they're STILL going to go for someone with far more traditional Bond looks the next time around. The guy I was talking to is a super nice guy though, not to be confused with the asstastic ones.

I mean... THIS DUDE as BOND? Are you f**king kidding me?

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Do they think everyone is blind?? WTF!
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Just...no. And IMO he's overrated. in a TON of ways. :roll:
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bjmdds wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6CoNUE5Zho This sums it up!
One of the links from that video was yet another rejected theme that was better than AWTD. I'd imagine it was rejected because the singer is an unknown, a Swede named Eve Almer. It still has far more of a Bond sound than AWTD.

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Far better theme than the one they picked, but that's not surprising. Still, anything with Craig as non Bond pretty much is ruined from the start for me.
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That theme and voice was Bond gold! Now THAT'S Bond material! Eon rejected that for the Keyes joke that puts one to sleep? Notoriety is not a prerequisite to be in a Bond film. It's talent, pure and simple.
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The Keys/White song was wrong for the movie. I like The White Stripes but that was just... *covers ears*. :shock:
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