The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Alessandra]

The sun has a 'news' story, that I don't have the energy to bother reporting. I think it mostly rubbish apparently taken from another fan forum based on 'a friend of a friend told me this! Isn't this kewl!' kind of post. Some of it probably merits discussion, I happen to think is all rumour mill fodder.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... -film.html

Good Lord. A clochard. (Clochard is the French for basically a homeless person)

[Mazer Rackham]

Bond 23 needs to take two steps before begins to be viable, Funding & Script, at the moment they still officially have neither. If they are smart they are working on it off the books as the Hobbit people did waiting for the funds to eventually be approved. Saying Bond 23 is underway is wrong because the funds are not there. There were already a lot of problems with the first attempts at the script. A finished script would be a good sign they are ready to move forward, it doesn't seem to be a anywhere at the moment.

[Alessandra]

Bond 23 needs to take two steps before begins to be viable, Funding & Script, at the moment they still officially have neither. If they are smart they are working on it off the books as the Hobbit people did waiting for the funds to eventually be approved. Saying Bond 23 is underway is wrong because the funds are not there. There were already a lot of problems with the first attempts at the script. A finished script would be a good sign they are ready to move forward, it doesn't seem to be a anywhere at the moment.

The script part is what I wonder about the most. I knew about the summer problems (I will never tire of laughing at how I was laughed AT for saying I knew they had a fallout with the MGM appointed writer in the summer and things went downhill from there on) and now we all know Logan arrived to replace Morgan. Thing is, per Wilson's own words, as of the end of October NOBODY was working on the script. Now, considering they didn't even have a first draft ready, I would like to hear at the very least that things are progressing and they're working on it 24/7 instead of hearing the "oh it's super secret" party line. But, no such thing has been stated. The whole "secret" thing is just a way of diverting attention as saying "work is under way and writers are deep in the project" gives away absolutely nothing of course, so I'd like to know what the real deal is there. Agreed about the funds, they said nothing about that and I hope they're wise enough to be working on it off the books as you said, hopefully that is what's happening. It would be good to have actual news on these two aspects, showing there is an actual start of production for the movie.

[bjmdds]

Eon is becoming a joke. The final product of QOS was abysmal yet when they were editing it what the hell were they thinking? Now, keeping Cr-egg again, waiting almost 2 more years for the overhyped release and then to fall short of expectations again? Put the English Agent and Sweeney in the room with Broccoli already and see what happens!

[Alessandra]

Eon is becoming a joke. The final product of QOS was abysmal yet when they were editing it what the hell were they thinking? Now, keeping Cr-egg again, waiting almost 2 more years for the overhyped release and then to fall short of expectations again? Put the English Agent and Sweeney in the room with Broccoli already and see what happens!

Clearly they aren't in the position to buy anyone out of their contract (and MGM would have to be the one doing that) so they keep on going with Craig. And up until that, I CAN understand. But picking yet another director who knows NOTHING about action movies, a script writer who clearly is all about dark and pensive character development (and not an action movie script writer)? This is QoS all over again. Either they're so arrogant as to have learnt absolutely nothing from QoS or they're completely clueless.

[katied]

Ugh that rumor makes we want to take a shower.Even if it isn't true. The tabloids(and stupid fans-Spynovelfan, much? )are stooping to new lows.

[Alessandra]

Ugh that rumor makes we want to take a shower.Even if it isn't true. The tabloids(and stupid fans-Spynovelfan, much? )are stooping to new lows.

Did they read boards and put the various spec possibilities together? because it sure looks like it. Not that anything different should be expected from the Sun. Gotta say if Weisz was the head of Quantum, though, it could avoid a problem since she wouldn't romantically interact with Craig. I am unsure she would be the best woman for that part, but still, better that than for her to be a regular good Bond girl.

[katied]

Yeah, it does sounds like a bunch of rumors all cobbled together. Cobblers,more like!

[Alessandra]

Yeah, it does sounds like a bunch of rumors all cobbled together. Cobblers,more like!

The Sun is a weird tabloid. They have some things absolutely accurate (for example their sports section, not that it's very big or anything, is definitely good, and I say that as a sports reporter. My colleagues in London at the Times and the Daily Telegraph are constantly frustrated because these guys can run their secret source stuff way before they manage to verify it and run it on respectable newspapers LOL), but the others are from inaccurate to completely made-up

In this case, I guess a good mix and match of board stuff My question is, why even bother? That type of thing won't make them sell more copies. Guess they were out of gossip and needed one more page

[Omega]

I loved the car chases in Ronin,and Agree CGI is killing Real stunt work. I feel GCI is used too freely by directors when they face a problem they say " Oh we'll CGI something in ".
At least with a stunt man you feel some emotion,That a human is doing something amazing !
Running across the crocs, the spiral car jump, The ski jump,
are all better by us knowing SOMEONE is doing it, and not a CGI'd Character.
Not to mention all the out of work stunt guys who'll be holding signs " will crash your Car, for Food "

The old Bond movies had incredible stunts but real. As you said a human did them. I was watching the Blues Brothers and I don't think they could make it today. The stunt work is phenomenal, the pileups make NASCAR envious. I had to look it up on IMdb, $27 million dollars to make every dime was one screen the stunts,dancing and music make it classic.

BTW didn't mean run the bitch over like it sounded. Reading over it again it didn't come out the way I intended I was thinking of the bitch is dead line from CR and didn't think of how it could sound. Over all the Vesper in the road was a lame excuse for the crappy flipping stunt. All to set some record.

[The Sweeney]

Eon is becoming a joke. The final product of QOS was abysmal yet when they were editing it what the hell were they thinking? Now, keeping Cr-egg again, waiting almost 2 more years for the overhyped release and then to fall short of expectations again? Put the English Agent and Sweeney in the room with Broccoli already and see what happens!

I don't think she'd want to hear what we had to say....

[katied]

Over all the Vesper in the road was a lame excuse for the crappy flipping stunt. All to set some record.

True that. And nobody will be able to break that record because they have good enough sense to not wreck a perfectly good Aston Martin!

[The Sweeney]

The Sun is a weird tabloid. They have some things absolutely accurate (for example their sports section, not that it's very big or anything, is definitely good

I disagree. I'd say their sport section is big, not small. And yes, it's good....the CTO at The Sun (News International) is a good friend of mine.

[English Agent]

The Sun is a weird tabloid. They have some things absolutely accurate (for example their sports section, not that it's very big or anything, is definitely good

I disagree. I'd say their sport section is big, not small. And yes, it's good....the CTO at The Sun (News International) is a good friend of mine.

I read the Sun, good paper...........Whats a CTO?

EA

[The Sweeney]

The Sun is a weird tabloid. They have some things absolutely accurate (for example their sports section, not that it's very big or anything, is definitely good

I disagree. I'd say their sport section is big, not small. And yes, it's good....the CTO at The Sun (News International) is a good friend of mine.

I read the Sun, good paper...........Whats a CTO?

EA

Chief Technology Officer

[English Agent]

I know we have all been going on about how dismal the last film was, and commenting about the shenanigans with producers and studio.

BUT........Bond 23 should be a clean sheet of paper for them to start with again, like as for CR.

Unlike QOS, Bond 23 won't be a tack on film to a previous one.

Maybe.......we are being a bit pessimistic...........i mean EON can't make two duds in a row. Can they?

EA

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

I know we have all been going on about how dismal the last film was, and commenting about the shenanigans with producers and studio.

BUT........Bond 23 should be a clean sheet of paper for them to start with again, like as for CR.

Unlike QOS, Bond 23 won't be a tack on film to a previous one.

Maybe.......we are being a bit pessimistic...........i mean EON can't make two duds in a row. Can they?

EA

Eon have made two duds in a role EA - Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace!!

[The Sweeney]

I know we have all been going on about how dismal the last film was, and commenting about the shenanigans with producers and studio.

BUT........Bond 23 should be a clean sheet of paper for them to start with again, like as for CR.

Unlike QOS, Bond 23 won't be a tack on film to a previous one.

Maybe.......we are being a bit pessimistic...........i mean EON can't make two duds in a row. Can they?

EA

I'm hoping lessons have been learned from the last one. As long as Mendes doesn't go too far down the pretentious route, and Bradley does not return to shoot his shaky cam scenes, and the script is decent, then Bond 23 should be much better than QoS.

[The Sweeney]

I know we have all been going on about how dismal the last film was, and commenting about the shenanigans with producers and studio.

BUT........Bond 23 should be a clean sheet of paper for them to start with again, like as for CR.

Unlike QOS, Bond 23 won't be a tack on film to a previous one.

Maybe.......we are being a bit pessimistic...........i mean EON can't make two duds in a row. Can they?

EA

Eon have made two duds in a role EA - Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace!!

They've made 4 duds in a row actually.....GE to DAD.

[English Agent]

I know we have all been going on about how dismal the last film was, and commenting about the shenanigans with producers and studio.

BUT........Bond 23 should be a clean sheet of paper for them to start with again, like as for CR.

Unlike QOS, Bond 23 won't be a tack on film to a previous one.

Maybe.......we are being a bit pessimistic...........i mean EON can't make two duds in a row. Can they?

EA

Eon have made two duds in a role EA - Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace!!

They've made 4 duds in a row actually.....GE to DAD.

I was just trying myself to come up with a witty reply to the 'Captain's..' comment!

but you beat me to it!

EA

ps: I do actually like GE to DAD, just as i do all the BOND films, though i don't have much time for QOS (quantity of sausages) at this present time!