Omega wrote:Was it John Glen or the self-aware direction direction the series took? I am thinking of the Lines like "you are THE James Bond" or whatever it was in A view to a kill, then the what was it? a carpet ride that was finally cut for Dalton's first movie. Was it that kind of thinking and writing that was the problem more than Dalton & Moore or the times?
6 year Gap might have helped when Pierces first movie came out but I think it was a better story than before and they got off the modern kick, by the modern kick I mean how they kind of drifted taking on the latest trend whatever it was like silicon Vally and forced inter racial situations.
Living daylights and License to kill were a lot of fun to watch although it was clear they were coping various popular influences like Miami vice.
I think in way the series is too self-aware again and is trying too hard not to do what they did before with Connery and Brosnan or when they do want to give a knowing nod to the past its all screwed up.Painful mimicking they did with Quantum and the Exxon Girl is a good example
I haven't watched all of the movies in this time 73-85 however I wonder if it wasn't the actors or directors that were at fault but the writers and producers cramming in any popular influence since star wars worked out for them?
I *loved* TLD. As far as current trends, in the 80's/90's, such as they were, yeah, they did.
Favorite Bond Movie: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Kingsman: The Secret Service and The November Man or any upcoming actioners starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good since it will help him expand his reputation as an actor especially in the action realm)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars Indiana Jones Star Trek The Dark Knight Trilogy Harry Potter Middle-Earth The Matrix Mission: Impossible The Mummy Jurassic Park Godzilla
Omega wrote:Living daylights and License to kill were a lot of fun to watch although it was clear they were coping various popular influences like Miami vice.
LTK reminds me of the Lethal Weapon series IMO. The setting, the songs (I know some may disagree), the soundtrack, the plot, the villain, the violence, etc.
LTK reminds me of the Lethal Weapon series IMO. The setting, the songs (I know some may disagree), the soundtrack, the plot, the villain, the violence, etc.
LTK reminds me of the Lethal Weapon series IMO. The setting, the songs (I know some may disagree), the soundtrack, the plot, the villain, the violence, etc.
I can kinda see the comparison, actually.
I know to quot the Dems i'll be on the "wrong side of history" just by talking to her. but what the hell
I kinda agree it was more Lethal weapon but by being in Florida i see the Miami vice comparison too
Chief of Staff, 007's gone round the bend. Says someone's been trying to feed him a poisoned banana. Fellow's lost his nerve. Been in the hospital too long. Better call him home.
Favorite Bond Movie: Octopussy From Russia With Love The Living Daylights On Her Majestys Secret Service Doctor No .... Ah heck all of them
Favorite Movies: Lawrence Of Arabia, Forrest Gump, Jaws, The Shawshank Redemption, Vertigo, The Odd Couple, Zoolander, Cool Hand Luke, The Great Escape...many more.
Location: Well here obviously. At the moment of course
Omega wrote:Living daylights and License to kill were a lot of fun to watch although it was clear they were coping various popular influences like Miami vice.
LTK reminds me of the Lethal Weapon series IMO. The setting, the songs (I know some may disagree), the soundtrack, the plot, the villain, the violence, etc.
Ironic that one of the most Americanised of the Bond films didn't sit so well with the US audience.
LTK's tone, script, locations, characters, were all heavily influenced by tv shows like Miami Vice and movies like Leathal Weapon.
Maybe Bond strayed to far from his normal settings for fans to accept him. I like LTK myself, thought it had a great story, with a rogue Bond, eliminating the villains one at a time through mistrust. It also has a great main villain in Sanchez. And Dalton is fantastic as Bond. Building on his debut from TLD.
Omega wrote:Living daylights and License to kill were a lot of fun to watch although it was clear they were coping various popular influences like Miami vice.
LTK reminds me of the Lethal Weapon series IMO. The setting, the songs (I know some may disagree), the soundtrack, the plot, the villain, the violence, etc.
Ironic that one of the most Americanised of the Bond films didn't sit so well with the US audience.
LTK's tone, script, locations, characters, were all heavily influenced by tv shows like Miami Vice and movies like Leathal Weapon.
Maybe Bond strayed to far from his normal settings for fans to accept him. I like LTK myself, thought it had a great story, with a rogue Bond, eliminating the villains one at a time through mistrust. It also has a great main villain in Sanchez. And Dalton is fantastic as Bond. Building on his debut from TLD.
I think they get in to trouble when they get stuck on popular culture forgetting that they are James Bond first and action movie second. Brosnan's Bond remembered this more successfully than the Moore and Dalton movies. With the exception of the last half of DAD which again they were stuck on themselves and too busy celebrating their accomplishment of 20 films. Surprised they didn't put the family photo album in the credits.
Eon seem to distance the Craig films from the rest of the series - and James Bond too!
True that. Best thing EON can do(but they probably won't) is recast Craig, should the hiatus go on too long.
A new actor is the quickest way to get publicity and people interested. Craig is another series as far as I can tell. He isn't the same James Bond as Timothy Dalton in TLD I can't believe he will become that man either.
A new actor is the quickest way to get publicity and people interested. Craig is another series as far as I can tell. He isn't the same James Bond as Timothy Dalton in TLD I can't believe he will become that man either.
The only people who really care are the fanboys. They're the ones who want to see Craig as Bond no matter how out of shape he is.
The average moviegoer doesn't care about the Bond films,for the most part. The drama around the Bond films is of no consequence to them.
Favorite Bond Movie: Octopussy From Russia With Love The Living Daylights On Her Majestys Secret Service Doctor No .... Ah heck all of them
Favorite Movies: Lawrence Of Arabia, Forrest Gump, Jaws, The Shawshank Redemption, Vertigo, The Odd Couple, Zoolander, Cool Hand Luke, The Great Escape...many more.
Location: Well here obviously. At the moment of course
A new actor is the quickest way to get publicity and people interested. Craig is another series as far as I can tell. He isn't the same James Bond as Timothy Dalton in TLD I can't believe he will become that man either.
The only people who really care are the fanboys. They're the ones who want to see Craig as Bond no matter how out of shape he is.
The average moviegoer doesn't care about the Bond films,for the most part. The drama around the Bond films is of no consequence to them.
To call Craig fans 'fanboys' when you yourselves post on a forum dedicated to James Bond is somewhat hypocritical in my opinion.
The only difference I can see is some like Craig, and some don't.
There's a big difference between here and other boards that shall remain nameless(yes, I'm still referring to it as such. Sorry. ). There's not a a bunch of fans suggesting terrible people for roles in Bond films and bringing Spectre back here(and thank goodness for that! )
As for the fanboy accusation-I don't think everyone there is , there just seem to be a bigger percentage of people who are!
Nash, I'll give you credit, as much as you like Craig, you've really tempered that as of late and had a much more open mind.
Favorite Bond Movie: Octopussy From Russia With Love The Living Daylights On Her Majestys Secret Service Doctor No .... Ah heck all of them
Favorite Movies: Lawrence Of Arabia, Forrest Gump, Jaws, The Shawshank Redemption, Vertigo, The Odd Couple, Zoolander, Cool Hand Luke, The Great Escape...many more.
Location: Well here obviously. At the moment of course
This charming young man will probably old enough to take the role by the time MGM get their act together.
If sooner then I'd hope the tux is passed onto Henry Cavill.
If he made it to the last three when Daniel Craig was cast, he must have something. And he'd be better than Sam Worthington.
katied wrote:That kid looks like my nephew when he was a baby(not that I'm suggesting my nephew for Bond 23-he's only 12 now-turning 13 in March. )
Yes, but you don't know how old he'll be by the time Bond 23 starts production. I think that was Comrade Granitsky's point.
What will the producers look like? Michael G Wilson celebrates his 70th anniversary in 2012 so to speak.
"Those were the days when we still associated Bond with suave, old school actors such as Sean Connery and Roger Moore,"
"Daniel didn't have a hint of suave about him," - Patsy Palmer
Well, the nephew will be 20 years old in 2018(born in 1998). at the idea of the hiatus lasting long enough for him to be Bond. I suppose if it became a long term thing and they were looking to re-re boot the Bond franchise,and they didn't mind a American...Another thing:He's blonde. Not sure how *2* blonde Bonds in a row would go over!
He will probably have dark hair by his 4th Birth day, all of our kids had Blond hair for the first few years and all have dark hair now. The eye color can change as well up to a certain age, Ours got their eye color right away, genetic is a strange thing, seeing your great grandfathers eye color appear from two parents with much darker eyes.
Chief of Staff, 007's gone round the bend. Says someone's been trying to feed him a poisoned banana. Fellow's lost his nerve. Been in the hospital too long. Better call him home.
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