The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[bjmdds]

That much? Boy oh boy, without that, they are done. At $75 million, with an estimated "total" expense at $400 million, they are still behind, with $325 million needed as their break even point. With $515 million taken in, and Eon keeping half and the theatres taking the other half(which is a ripoff by the way), they are in the red for $75 million so far it seems. Can Japan bail them out? Doubtful.

[Mazer Rackham]

bailout?

Sony may at that. Sony is in trouble their stock lost 62% in the last year and Sony is selling bonds first time in nearly 3 years
Maybe the 4% of the fired Sony work force should took towards Babs and Craig for their troubles. How much of the $300m + pumped into Quark (that's not going to be recovered) could have paid their salaries for years

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

In addition to Mazer, This article http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/200 ... f7768.aspx said Quantum of Solace would have a big increase on the $36 million Eon earnt from priduct placements in Casino Royale.

[Kristatos]

Any chance Craig might tackle Broadway in his upcoming career ala Daniel Radcliffe?

Either that or panto ("I really wanted to get to the heart of what motivates Widow Twankey. That's why I insisted the director add a subplot about how she had to kill Mr. Twankey in self-defence after he came home drunk one night and threatened her with the breadknife").

[bjmdds]

bailout?

Sony may at that. Sony is in trouble their stock lost 62% in the last year and Sony is selling bonds first time in nearly 3 years
Maybe the 4% of the fired Sony work force should took towards Babs and Craig for their troubles. How much of the $300m + pumped into Quark (that's not going to be recovered) could have paid their salaries for years

It hasn't opened there as of yet. I do not think Japan will overflow the box office for this film. As I see it, QOSTBM needs to do $650 million worldwide to break even(50% to Eon;$400 million total costs-$75 million product placement fees=$325 million net cost outlay). They need another $135 million to do that. How is that possible, exclusive of DVD sales, which might be soft too? I think we have a bonafide problem here for Eon.

[The Sweeney]

Is it fair to factor in the current global recession at the moment, the pound dropping to a new low, etc....?

[stockslivevan]

Is it fair to factor in the current global recession at the moment, the pound dropping to a new low, etc....?

Just face the utter fact that Craig's era has ended and that Hugh Jackman will be announced as the new Bond on January.

[bjmdds]

"100 millon pounds....$280 million dollars".....1965 Thunderball comment by Largo.....if the exchange rate changes then the total gross changes from year to year? If that is the case, how can we ever know how much any film grosses worldwide? Jackman replacing Craig would be just perfect Stocks. Is he hosting the Academy awards as well? Listening Broccoli? This is your golden chance. Don't blow it!

[Mazer Rackham]

This weekend #s
As always I think it's possible Quark will slip in the finals.

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1 The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008) 	$31,000,000 
2 Four Christmases $13,270,000 	-	$87,972,000 	
3 Twilight $8,013,000 	-	$150,108,000 	
4 Bolt 	$7,506,000 	-23.4% 	
5 Australia $4,285,000 	-39.2% 	
6 Quantum of Solace  	$3,800,000 	-43.7% 	
7 Nothing Like the Holidays $3,500,000 	
8 Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa 	$3,250,000 	-36.0% 	$170,006,000 
9 Milk $2,636,000 	
10 Transporter 3 	$2,250,000 	

[Mazer Rackham]

Is it fair to factor in the current global recession at the moment, the pound dropping to a new low, etc....?

As per what Sween?
The poor overall take in what is thought to be a recession proof business?
The product placements?

[Mazer Rackham]

Any chance Craig might tackle Broadway in his upcoming career ala Daniel Radcliffe?

Either that or panto ("I really wanted to get to the heart of what motivates Widow Twankey. That's why I insisted the director add a subplot about how she had to kill Mr. Twankey in self-defence after he came home drunk one night and threatened her with the breadknife").

Not a chance of him doing any real acting. He made real poncy comment that he'd never do stage work again because he'd have to memorize the lines.

What a piece of garage!

[The Sweeney]

Is it fair to factor in the current global recession at the moment, the pound dropping to a new low, etc....?

As per what Sween?
The poor overall take in what is thought to be a recession proof business?
The product placements?

It was a question more than an answer. Right now we are (supposedly) in a recession like no other. Something that we haven't experienced since the 20's.
I know here in the UK, companies are folding left, right and centre, and people are getting made redundant everywhere.

The pound has also plummeted dramatically against the Euro. What I'm saying is, can we now compare accurately the BO figures of QoS to CR, when the value of everything was different back in 2006, and the climate was vastly different too?

Recession proof? I bet banks thought they were recession proof too....

[The Sweeney]

Any chance Craig might tackle Broadway in his upcoming career ala Daniel Radcliffe?

Either that or panto ("I really wanted to get to the heart of what motivates Widow Twankey. That's why I insisted the director add a subplot about how she had to kill Mr. Twankey in self-defence after he came home drunk one night and threatened her with the breadknife").

Not a chance of him doing any real acting. He made real poncy comment that he'd never do stage work again because he'd have to memorize the lines.

What a piece of garage!

Mazer, it sounds like you have real hatred towards Craig. What has this guy done to you personally?
I respect him as an actor. Many screen actors cannot be bothered with stage once they are in film. At least he picks off-beat screen roles.
I watched Flashbacks of a Fool yesterday and thought he was great in it.

You may not think he is right for Bond, but to start attacking the guy personally....?

[Mazer Rackham]

Mazer, it sounds like you have real hatred towards Craig. What has this guy done to you personally?
I respect him as an actor. Many screen actors cannot be bothered with stage once they are in film. At least he picks off-beat screen roles.
I watched Flashbacks of a Fool yesterday and thought he was great in it.

You may not think he is right for Bond, but to start attacking the guy personally....?

He was a dick about it in the interview. Why are you defending him? Do you know him personally? He was an ass and pompous thus garbage as a person. He put it down because it was hard and he didn't wanna do hard any more cause now he's accomplished.
Why the f**k does the charge of the Craig brigade feels the need to make it personal is beyond me. If I don't like him and say he is a overrated actor then I must have personal animus against him!

That BS about the screen actors not doing theater. It's a mark of accomplishment and ability to do real theater not the other way around. Screen actors are the prima donnas of the acting world and Craig nailed it.
You might wanna consider why he does off-beat roles. That his whole damned portfolio if full of them, one of the few somewhat normal roles is Bond and that was made off-beat to suit him.

[stockslivevan]

Listening Broccoli? This is your golden chance. Don't blow it!

What happened to Wilson? I notice everyone, even outside of DCINB, tends to make out Babs as the sole producer. Possibly because of the Broccoli name? Either way I'm surprised Wilson doesn't get a lot of flack here, he also approved Craig and was the one who came up with the reboot concept.

[Gary Seven]

Listening Broccoli? This is your golden chance. Don't blow it!

What happened to Wilson? I notice everyone, even outside of DCINB, tends to make out Babs as the sole producer. Possibly because of the Broccoli name? Either way I'm surprised Wilson doesn't get a lot of flack here, he also approved Craig and was the one who came up with the reboot concept.

B.Broccoli wears the trousers at Eon. Wilson wanted Julian McMahon, Campbell wanted Cavill, Broccoli held out for Craig: she wields her father's power.

I won't attack Michael G. Wilson for the reboot concept as an origin Bond movie is a viable idea, but not with an actor who is 38 and looks 48.

[katied]

Wilson seems to have some say,but mostly he just makes cameo appeareances in every Bond film

[Kristatos]

Either way I'm surprised Wilson doesn't get a lot of flack here, he also approved Craig and was the one who came up with the reboot concept.

You are right. Bollocks to Wilson. I think Babs gets it worse because her motives in casting Craig are more open to question. Unless MGW is a closet case, it seems likely that he genuinely thought that Craig would make a good Bond, and that his choice wasn't purely hormone-driven. Though that's probably worse. Love is blind, but if he was looking at the choice rationally and still didn't care that the actor playing Bond was blond and, ahem, not classically handsome (that's the kindest way I could think of to put it), then more fool him.

[Mazer Rackham]

Listening Broccoli? This is your golden chance. Don't blow it!

What happened to Wilson? I notice everyone, even outside of DCINB, tends to make out Babs as the sole producer. Possibly because of the Broccoli name? Either way I'm surprised Wilson doesn't get a lot of flack here, he also approved Craig and was the one who came up with the reboot concept.

I suppose he is viewed as a mouse. Nepotism got him his job and his skills got him removed from the writers gig. There was a review on this site that linked him to the problems w/script and production from the time he was hired up until the time Bond almost died after LTK. You'll have noticed when Bond Came back in GE he wasn't on the writing team any more and a few (perhaps not as many as there should be) have made noises about it. The reboot concept he came up with the put in the rubbish bin by Cubby. Batman begins and the other reboot were more influential than MGWs idea. However if you want to balme him for the problems in Quark you might be on to something. Some have said it was part of the pay off for getting behind Craig. Who knows.

When it comes to Craig he was not behind the decision and in fact was against it. Barbara used all her clout to pull it off against her sniveling stepbrother and the studio.
If you want to look it up it was mentioned at least 3 time, the one particularly poignant was passing mention in long interview w/both of them (possible 1 or 2 others) around about a month before CR was released and before that there was at least a brief mention (or two or three) in other publications of how Wilson when told Craig's name was against casting him.

The front was quickly untied after Craig's official announcement and the Sony machine went to work painting a big happy family. Doubt Sony is as happy now, Eon just cost them a mint. I wonder if the final production costs might have spurred Sony's Coke Zero deal.

[James]

I don't think MGW cares as much as he used to. Babs is the biggest influence now. He was interviewed on radio with her over here when QoS came out and to be honest he didn't sound like the sharpest knife in the box. He must be knocking on a bit.