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I'am still very annoyed, at how QOS was edited. :x

I won't go into specifics, as i know a lot of u havn't seen the film yet........

........and i'am looking forward to seeing your reviews on the film......

particularly 'BJ's' :) .......all i'll say is if you can get through the first 30 mins
of the film... then it does become easier to follow!!

AB :cry:
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particularly 'BJ's' :) .......all i'll say is if you can get through the first 30 mins
of the film... then it does become easier to follow!!

AB :cry:
That's good to know,but I'm going to go see it and judge for myself .If I don't like it,I don't *shrug*
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Arthur Brain wrote:all i'll say is if you can get through the first 30 mins
of the film... then it does become easier to follow!!

AB :cry:
Oh dear! :shock: I can't recall seeing so many with precisely the same complaint before.

Usually there would be a few sequences complained about, not the totality of film!
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Blowfeld wrote:Oh dear! :shock: I can't recall seeing so many with precisely the same complaint before.

Usually there would be a few sequences complained about, not the totality of film!
And equally, there are plenty of positive reviews out there saying the complete opposite. Don't believe in either side, just believe in your own opinion. :cheers:
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And equally, there are plenty of positive reviews out there saying the complete opposite.
Don't believe in either side, just believe in your own opinion. :cheers:
Yes..but I'm completely anticipating whining from certain people(not yourself!) if I post a less than positive review.It's very predictable :P
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The Sweeney wrote:
Blowfeld wrote:Oh dear! :shock: I can't recall seeing so many with precisely the same complaint before.

Usually there would be a few sequences complained about, not the totality of film!
And equally, there are plenty of positive reviews out there saying the complete opposite. Don't believe in either side, just believe in your own opinion. :cheers:
Sweeney, what do you think of your matinee idol Craig's recent comment about what race the next Bond actor should be? By the way, how many times have you seen The Bourne Mimicry so far? Enjoy it better each time, do you?
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I'm sure some of the more strident pro-Craigs will be along soon to do damage control on Craig's "black Bond" comments :twisted:
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bjmdds wrote:Sweeney, what do you think of your matinee idol Craig's recent comment about what race the next Bond actor should be? By the way, how many times have you seen The Bourne Mimicry so far? Enjoy it better each time, do you?
I'm seeing it again tomorrow for the 2nd time with my wife and parents.

With regards Craig's comments, its much ado about nothing, isn't it. It's probably just lazy, BS journo's again, or if it is true its not exactly earth shattering either.

Craig was just showing he ain't no racist by saying Bond could be played by a black actor these days, but then counteracting it by saying Fleming probably would turn in his grave if Bond was black (in other words, Craig doesn't really want a black Bond either but was being `right on' to keep the PC brigade happy).
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I'm not sure if I completely believe that those comments came from Craig's mouth. Inasmuch as I voted for Obama and am SO glad he's going to be president, a Black Bond?No.Sorry. :wink:
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I shall be seeing QOS again today, to hopefully catch up on the bits i missed first time around and
to be able to re-evaluate the film.

It seems to me that the reviews on the forums are mostly biased in that the films are judged solely by which lead actor
you prefer, and not on the quality of the film itself.
Its not a tit-for-tat game.

If i can give an honest un-biased review, then i would expect it from others!!

Incidently, despite the mixed reviews, the film is still going strong at the box-office!

This weekend sees a huge release for the film in some 57 territories, as well as the 2nd weeks for the initial 3 releases.

Expect a huge BO figure this weekend for QOS...........mind you the 2nd weekend BO for the UK will be the one that the
studio will be looking at, as it could determine the likely BO run of the film everywhere by analysing the BO drop percentage
in relation to the films reviews, and word of mouth amongst the public.

For reference the current BO figures for the first week are as follows:-

UK...............$32,600,000

France..........$15,700,000

Sweden...........$3,500,000

Total:- $51,800,000

AB :typing:
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Originally I had only planned to see it *once* but if I feel like I've missed anything(and it sounds like a lot of people are seeing it more than once since they need some things cleared up for them) I'll see it again.
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Well

I've just been to see QOS again, and i enjoyed it much more this time.

On my first viewing, the speed of the film took me by surprise.........but this time i was able to take in more
of the films content.

On this viewing i would rate the film as say 7/10, not as good as CR which i would rate as 8.5/10.

The Bourne style filming of the action scenes and editing loses the film say 1 point, and the plot though interesting
is not quite as engaging as CR, hence losing another 1/2 point.

This is certainly a more darker Bond film, and is a light year away from the Roger Bond films.

Plus points are mainly DC's performance as a man out for revenge.

Judi Dench is also very good.

The villian, Dominic Greene is a real wormy, weasel type of character.

Camille is a good character in the film, and Fields is also good but in a very brief appearance.

Mathis and Leiter also have a fair amount of screen time.

Greene's henchman Elvis though is a very weak character, though Mr White's back and has some good lines.

The story though presented in a rather condense form, is still interesting, and is not as far fetched as some earlier
Bond films.

The director Marc Forster certainly stamps his individual style on this film.

I won't comment on the actual film itself, as i know many of you havn't seen it yet.

Though there are a couple of scenes some viewers may feel distasteful.

To sum up..........my initial comments still apply........the producers should forget Bounre, they didn't need to do this,
the action scenes would of been more excitng and viewable if they had kept to the tried and tested way
of conventional filming.

One thing that did take me surprise was the number of people in the theatre.
I went to a early afternoon viewing today where normally you would expect only dozen or so people but apart from the empty front row seats the screen was pretty full.

The next three weeks on release will give us a good idea of the reaction to the film, and its potential final target

From my boxoffice searches i have read that QOS has already taken BO records for opening prerformances for opening day
Bond films released in new territories for this week.

I now expect QOS to do very strong boxoffice in the US next week, something between $50-60 mil should be attainable.

AB :typing:
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Though there are a couple of scenes some viewers may feel distasteful
Since I don't mind being spoilered,I know what they are..and they are distasteful..a near rape plus there's the scene where Bond throws Mathis' body in the dumpster I assume those are the scenes you are referring to?
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katied wrote:
Though there are a couple of scenes some viewers may feel distasteful
Since I don't mind being spoilered,I know what they are..and they are distasteful..a near rape plus there's the scene where Bond throws Mathis' body in the dumpster I assume those are the scenes you are referring to?
Yep, your right.

It must be hard for you people Stateside not to know the whole film before Nov 14th!

I've noticed 'Stocks' has gone missing. Do you think he's trying to avoid the 'spoilers'?

AB :typing:
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Stocks left..long story.. there is a thread in the general discusssion thread about it.That's all I'll say :twisted:


I don't mind being spoilered as much as other people do I guess so know quite a bit(but not all)of what happens in the movie. The weekend of the 14th is going to be a busy one for me-QOS Friday-the earliest showing I can manage-and a birthday party the 15th and holiday-related stuff-getting organized- the rest of the time.
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Kristatos wrote:
Mazer Rackham wrote:Well it does make the take in the UK a little less impressive, down about .40 from 2 years ago. :wink:
And with 1 or 2 extra showings a day, too, due to the shorter running time.
So Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix a longer movie at 139min did better business than a shorter movie. Harry Potter also cost less by at least $100m too. :mrgreen: :wink:
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Arthur Brain wrote:
I now expect QOS to do very strong boxoffice in the US next week, something between $50-60 mil should be attainable.

AB :typing:
I doubt it will do that in the US. It might but even with the free tickets I don't see it.
Other openings are under the latest take. I think you've overestimated the draw. But we'll see.
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My prediction:QOS will not be able to hold box office records.I see it being a HUGE money maker but after that,not so much.
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katied wrote:My prediction:QOS will not be able to hold box office records.I see it being a HUGE money maker but after that,not so much.
Even if it ties CR it makes less. The cost of this turkey is astronomical.
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Absolutely.The only(and I do mean only) reason I'm going to see it on opening day is because I want to see it and write a honest review,regardless of my opinion.
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