Casino Royale not a blockbuster in the United States

[Harvey Wallbanger]

Recent as in the last moive

so in 1994, Licence to Kill was the biggest film in "recent history", because it was the last movie?

Oh come on, if "recent history" means the last film, of cause it's going to be the biggest "in recent history".

re•cent (rē'sənt)
adj.

1. Of, belonging to, or occurring at a time immediately before the present.

I was talking about how DAD was the most recent Bond -was also triumphed as the biggest grossing Bond in history.

-Why you want to nit-pick a simple point is beyond me.
If it were to go the same for you I could say 1994 (whne PB got the job) there was no Bond movies out. Or try to adjust the 2002-03 DAD to reflect how recent the movie was in 2005 when DC got the job.

[BondFan007]

re·cent /ˈrisənt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ree-suhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. of late occurrence, appearance, or origin; lately happening, done, made, etc.: recent events; a recent trip.
2. not long past: in recent years.
3. of or belonging to a time not long past.

[Dr. No]

Great the dictionary club arrived, now we can begin!
Come on guys take it easy.
Take a deep breath a step back and put the dictionarys down.

[ID]

Gerard Butler's 300 had a $70 million opening in the US. Makes Bond and the penguins look a bit small fry. It'll be interesting to see if it has legs.

[Blowfeld]

Gerard Butler's 300 had a $70 million opening in the US. Makes Bond and the penguins look a bit small fry. It'll be interesting to see if it has legs.

Without a doubt that is an impressive performance, but will it last?
It will be interesting to watch next weekend and the worldwide BO.

[Captain Nash]

Is this going to turn into yet another dig at Casino Royale if it in any way shape or form beats any of the box office statistics for Bond?
All I'll say is they're different movies!

[Harvey Wallbanger]

If someone wanted to argue about the money they could. -to me not a very good argument
300 had a smaller theater #’s and the R rating which usually makes blockbustering harder.
Something about the 300 hit home.

[stockslivevan]

Hello, fellow Bond fans.

I feel like contributing on this site for good debate and interesting discussions concerning the successful film, Casino Royale starring the best Bond since Sean Connery: Daniel Craig.

Comparing different kind of films to other kind of films because of the difference on the box-office takings is a weak argument. Why stop at Night at the Museum? Titantic took over a billion dollars. OUCH!!! CR really failed big time!

The most legitimate way to see how CR holds up is against the other BOND FILMS, not Penguins or other redundant films people would bring up.

Look at the wolrdwide ticket admitions, ONE legitimate look because it doesn't focus on inflation. CR holds fifth place on that chart.


Ticket sales across the globe.
http://k1bond007.shackspace.com/James%2 ... ssions.png

But selling tickets is only half of CR's success. Check out the reactions from fans, critics and the people.

CR earns highest wide release rating of the year.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/features/ ... 8&type=w"]

Note: And not just the critics agree, look at the user review percentage.

On IMDb, CR is voted #1 in the Bond films, right next to the classic Goldfinger.
http://www.imdb.com/keyword/official-james-bond-series/


With high ticket sales and very strong word of mouth, CR is sure a success. No denying that. It didn't top Titanic or Night at the Museum at the US box-office, but using that logic, no Bond film has ever reached $200 million so how is this suppose to make CR look unsuccessful as a Bond film? Sounds like a paradox.

[Harvey Wallbanger]

Dunno -Word of mouth was not great in the US.
And I did not see James Bond in CR –average action –the story had problems too.
I got slim hopes for Craig getting a decent chance to do Bond in B22.
Was CR successful –arguable worldwide -was it successful in the US? well it sold significantly less than B20. The US take is what were talking about and if sales had stayed the same CR would have come close to breaking 200 mil.
B22 is going to be DCs biggest test.
–It will come down to how many saw DC and will return for b22.

[stockslivevan]

B22 is going to be DCs biggest test. It will come down to how many saw DC and will return for b22.

With only a vocal minority not returning for B22, I don't think there will be much of a loss.

was it successful in the US? well it sold significantly less than B20. The US take is what were talking about and if sales had stayed the same CR would have come close to breaking 200 mil.

Significantly less?
http://k1bond007.shackspace.com/James%2 ... ssions.png

Dropped a mere 2 points from DAD in the US, but expected since DAD had three films behind its back to be that successful while CR had to rely on its own. Bond 22 will either be close to the success of CR (give or take a few numbers) or with word of mouth and the access to DVDs, will be more popular. Having it drop below very low is the least likely thing to happen considering only a small minority disliked CR. However, I wouldn't be suprised if they returned for Bond 22 and give it a shot.

[Blowfeld]

Dropped a mere 2 points from DAD in the US

Looking at the link it dropped 2.4 million in ticket sales. Close to 20+ million dollars.
This is going to go back an fourth: however the début film for a new Bonds tend to have highest ticket sales going down for the next one.
Also some attended Royale to test it out, like Daniel said "see the movie". Well they saw it, whether they liked it or not will be proven in Bond 22.

[ID]

According to box-office Mojo Zack Snyder's 300 has taken an estimated $127,473,000 in ten days. That's only $40 million or so behind CR's total US take already. Considering the pull out all the stops campaign by Sony, all the publicity and the lack of competition CR did miss a chance to be a real blockbuster in the US and hit the $200 million mark.

[carl stromberg]

Welcome to the forum stockslivevan!

I am experiencing some deja vu with your torrent of Casino Royale box office statistics.....

[The Sweeney]

According to box-office Mojo Zack Snyder's 300 has taken an estimated $127,473,000 in ten days. That's only $40 million or so behind CR's total US take already. Considering the pull out all the stops campaign by Sony, all the publicity and the lack of competition CR did miss a chance to be a real blockbuster in the US and hit the $200 million mark.

Yup! CR was a MASSIVE flop in the US. I still cannot believe it!

The shame of it. CR flopped big style in US. No one bothered to go and see it at all. They should have taken it off nationwide release after a couple of weeks, and saved EON the agony. It looks the boycotters won after all. That will teach EON to pick Craig.

Maybe the fact that CR was such a huge flop, they will reconsider bringing Brosnan back. What does everyone else think....?

[007]

To get back on topic, I do think the US box-office take of CR is interesting in light of recent releases like A Night At The Museum and 300. That was the point I think, not a debate on whether CR has done well overall.

[The Sweeney]

To get back on topic, I do think the US box-office take of CR is interesting in light of recent releases like A Night At The Museum and 300. That was the point I think, not a debate on whether CR has done well overall.

Why? Brosnan films also didn't fare well against certain other films that were released at the same time. What does that prove too? That Bond is not the most popular film at the BO compared to some other films?

[James]

To get back on topic, I do think the US box-office take of CR is interesting in light of recent releases like A Night At The Museum and 300. That was the point I think, not a debate on whether CR has done well overall.

You forgot the penguins.

[The Sweeney]

To get back on topic, I do think the US box-office take of CR is interesting in light of recent releases like A Night At The Museum and 300. That was the point I think, not a debate on whether CR has done well overall.

You forgot the penguins.

And didn't Toy Story beat one of Brozza's? And? So what? Who cares? I didn't think any lesser of Brozza's films if a kids flick beat it at the BO. The only thing I care about is the film itself. If I enjoy the film, this is most important.

[stockslivevan]

First things first...

Thank you carl stromberg, I'll enjoy discussing the Bond topics with fellow Bond fans.

To get back on topic, I do think the US box-office take of CR is interesting in light of recent releases like A Night At The Museum and 300. That was the point I think, not a debate on whether CR has done well overall.

Like I mentioned on my other post, why stop at Night of the Museum, 300 and other different type of genres? Titanic! Now that film managed to become the highest grossing film in the US and CR didn't come close! WHAT A FLOP!!! LMAO!!!

Okay, end sarcasm. We can pull all kinds of movies out of our asses all day and state that they outgrossed CR. But that kind of technique could be used on the Brosnan films as well so what exactly are you trying to prove?

Unless a new Bond film becomes the highest grossing of the series, CR from now on will be mentioned as the highest grossing Bond film in the US and world by the media, unless it comes from DCNB.com. No one is going to be bringing up inflation because times change throughout the years and an inflation could never be an accurate way, it will only and always will be referred to as a theory. Not to mention that it blew up worldwide jumping up to $100 million from Brosnan's last picture. If that including the raving reviews doesn't show that CR was a success, I do not know what is.

And if I am correct, this thread is about the success of CR, not Bond 22. We judge the film on its own merits on the critical reaction and ticket sales. You can't suddenly say "Oh but Bond 22 will be the REAL test" after everyone was claiming (esspecially this site) CR would show whether Daniel Craig has been accepted. And with the reviews from both FANS AND CRITICS to be very strong, I say that's much more successful than any penny CR has earned in its entire run.

[The Sweeney]

First things first...

Thank you carl stromberg, I'll enjoy discussing the Bond topics with fellow Bond fans.

To get back on topic, I do think the US box-office take of CR is interesting in light of recent releases like A Night At The Museum and 300. That was the point I think, not a debate on whether CR has done well overall.

Like I mentioned on my other post, why stop at Night of the Museum, 300 and other different type of genres? Titanic! Now that film managed to become the highest grossing film in the US and CR didn't come close! WHAT A FLOP!!! LMAO!!!

Okay, end sarcasm. We can pull all kinds of movies out of our asses all day and state that they outgrossed CR. But that kind of technique could be used on the Brosnan films as well so what exactly are you trying to prove?

Unless a new Bond film becomes the highest grossing of the series, CR from now on will be mentioned as the highest grossing Bond film in the US and world by the media, unless it comes from DCNB.com. No one is going to be bringing up inflation because times change throughout the years and an inflation could never be an accurate way, it will only and always will be referred to as a theory. Not to mention that it blew up worldwide jumping up to $100 million from Brosnan's last picture. If that including the raving reviews doesn't show that CR was a success, I do not know what is.

And if I am correct, this thread is about the success of CR, not Bond 22. We judge the film on its own merits on the critical reaction and ticket sales. You can't suddenly say "Oh but Bond 22 will be the REAL test" after everyone was claiming (esspecially this site) CR would show whether Daniel Craig has been accepted. And with the reviews from both FANS AND CRITICS to be very strong, I say that's much more successful than any penny CR has earned in its entire run.

Great post! Well said, and welcome to the forums.....