How suave is Daniel Craig?

Post by **carl stromberg** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:03 pm

How suave is Daniel Craig?

I've added a poll.

Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:45 pm

Audiences were obviously bored by a suave Bond.

stockslivevan · Post by **stockslivevan** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:54 am

I find Craig suave, but at a different level. He's certainly showed them at fine points such as when he's charming the receptionist lady in Casino Royale. Most of the time he was more of a rough guy. There have been talks of him becoming a bit more suave in Bond 22, but thankfully at a believable transition, I would hate it if they had Craig suddenly turn Moore suave, because that's overkill for Bond. You have to keep Bond dangerous and keep a balance and Moore and Brosnna were totally unconvincing for me as a tough guys.

Post by **007** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:06 pm

I would hate it if they had Craig suddenly turn Moore suave

I don't think that is likely to happen.

stockslivevan · Post by **stockslivevan** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:17 am

007 wrote:
I would hate it if they had Craig suddenly turn Moore suave

I don't think that is likely to happen.

Glad it isn't likely.

Post by **Skywalker** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:38 pm

I wonder what I voted for.

Post by **Dr. No** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:06 am

I found the scene with Craig "charming the receptionist lady" the final nail in his suave coffin. In that particular scene I can picture any Bond from Connery to Brosnan, wooing said strumpet and being convincing.

With Craig I half expected him to try and sell her a radio from the Lexus he ripped off in the parking lot

Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:01 pm

Dr. No wrote:I found the scene with Craig "charming the receptionist lady" the final nail in his suave coffin. In that particular scene I can picture any Bond from Connery to Brosnan, wooing said strumpet and being convincing.

With Craig I half expected him to try and sell her a radio from the Lexus he ripped off in the parking lot

I agree with the sentiments expressed by Dr. No is this post. If you are going to cast Mr Craig as Bond, do not try to put any suave Bondian scenes in a Bond movie.

Gary Seven · Post by **Gary Seven** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:35 pm

Daniel Craig's Bond is about as suave as Norman Bates.

Mr. Big · Post by **Mr. Big** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:01 pm

For me this is the defintion of Bond. Bond is cool and suave not a generic tough guy. Daniel Craig comes across as a thug who can barely fit into his tux. The scene where he admires himself in the tux is unitentionally hilarious because of his lack of suaveness.

Post by **Skywalker** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:41 pm

Mr. Big wrote:For me this is the defintion of Bond. Bond is cool and suave not a generic tough guy. Daniel Craig comes across as a thug who can barely fit into his tux. The scene where he admires himself in the tux is unitentionally hilarious because of his lack of suaveness.

What I find strange is that his Bond wasn't meant to be suave. I believe M referred to him as "a blunt instrument".

Are we supposed to accept Craig swallows a sophistication pill in the half hour between CR's end and the start of QOS and is suddenly 'Mr Sauvé'?

My fear is that we will end up with this...http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=G09fo-lOrP0

Post by **Kristatos** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:56 pm

Skywalker wrote:Are we supposed to accept Craig swallows a sophistication pill in the half hour between CR's end and the start of QOS and is suddenly 'Mr Sauvé'?

The thing is, he went from suave to chav and back again throughout the course (or should that be coarse?) of CR. He was suave in the PCS and, as Stocks said, to the hotel receptionist, but in other scenes he barely seemed to know the difference between Dom Perignon and Dom de Luise.

Post by **Skywalker** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:02 pm

Kristatos wrote:
Skywalker wrote:Are we supposed to accept Craig swallows a sophistication pill in the half hour between CR's end and the start of QOS and is suddenly 'Mr Sauvé'?
The thing is, he went from suave to chav and back again throughout the course (or should that be coarse?) of CR. He was suave in the PCS and, as Stocks said, to the hotel receptionist, but in other scenes he barely seemed to know the difference between Dom Perignon and Dom de Luise.

There's no saving him.

I keep forgetting the PTS. It's almost like a "This is what you could have had".

Post by **007** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:29 pm

I think Daniel Craig's 'odd man out' aura is illustrated by stockslivevan's signature. Connery and Dalton look as if they playing the same character. Craig looks like Stan Laurel.

stockslivevan · Post by **stockslivevan** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:19 am

007 wrote:I think Daniel Craig's 'odd man out' aura is illustrated by stockslivevan's signature. Connery and Dalton look as if they playing the same character. Craig looks like Stan Laurel.

To each their own I suppose.

Terry · Post by **Terry** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:49 pm

007 wrote:I think Daniel Craig's 'odd man out' aura is illustrated by stockslivevan's signature. Connery and Dalton look as if they playing the same character. Craig looks like Stan Laurel.

The recent 'Art Of Bond' book is the most surreal example of this. All those Bondian pictures...plus several huge photographs of a rubber faced man with a buzzcut. Shocking!

Post by **carl stromberg** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:07 pm

He did slightly ruin the Art of Bond book. I have seen it being sold for next to nothing but did not want to buy it.

Post by **007** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:01 pm

carl stromberg wrote:He did slightly ruin the Art of Bond book. I have seen it being sold for next to nothing but did not want to buy it.

I saw it for £3 in a bargin bookshop. Far too heavy to carry home though!

Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:12 pm

007 wrote:
carl stromberg wrote:He did slightly ruin the Art of Bond book. I have seen it being sold for next to nothing but did not want to buy it.

I saw it for £3 in a bargin bookshop. Far too heavy to carry home though!

Did it come with a free black marker pen to scrub out any offending pictures?