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Another slow day for the Daily Mail newspaper....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1773

Pierce Brosnan has lost his licence to thrill ... on the beach, while Daniel Craig looks perfect in his trunks
Last updated at 20:30pm on 3rd January 2008

Pierce Brosnan has handed in his licence to thrill as he sports a man boobs and a flabby stomach, clearly losing out to new James Bond Daniel Craig.

The ex-007 has ditched the sharp suit and the toned body of a secret agent as he enjoys a comfortable retirement.

Brosnan, now wears some black trunks and a pair of goggles - he also seems to have acquired a pair of man boobs and a flabby stomach.

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The 54-year-old actor was on the beach enjoying a family holiday in Hawaii.

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Early days: Brosnan used to have a body fitting for a secret agent
Brosnan played the suave secret agent in four 007 movies before being unceremoniously dropped in favour of new Bond Daniel Craig.

He first played 007 in the 1995 action adventure "Goldeneye" before repeating the role in 1997's "Tomorrow Never Dies," 1999's "The World Is Not Enough" and the 2002 hit "Die Another Day."


Craig took over the part in the 2006 blockbuster "Casino Royale" and famously posed in a pair of tiny swimming trunks to show off his Bond body.

Brosnan next appears on the big screen in the movie version of the ABBA-themed stage musical "Mama Mia!" opposite Meryl Streep.

He will follow that with "The Topkapi Affair," a sequel to 1999's hit remake "The Thomas Crown Affair".
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Shock revelation: man in his 50s less slim than he was in his 30s. In other news, we reveal exclusive insights into the Pope's religion and what bears do in the woods.
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
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why not get comparison pictures of Connery, Dalton, and Moore?

Brosnan hasn't been in training for couple of years now, and who knows maybe he gained weight for a role. Doubt it, but it is possible.

Then again we heard that Craig had to hit the gym again after going to pot. So actors off a training regime gain weight shocking! It's like Bruce Willis said, if he reads script and finds a scene where he has to take his shirt off he hits the gym.

Of course we have assume the picture is legitimate. Oh well, at least it's not a shocking as what happened to al gore after the 2000 election. Besides in The Matador and his last movie -Falls- something Pierce did not look like this.
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Dr. No wrote:why not get comparison pictures of Connery, Dalton, and Moore?
Because according to Brosnan fans, he's still fit to play Bond today. So it's quite obvious someone will put up a comparison.

Funny, it reminds me of Fat Conners and Young Lazenby. Who would I have wanted as Bond in 1971? I'll take Lazenby. I may have liked Connery a lot on DAF, but I can't deny I would have preferred Lazenby to stay and go the same direction OHMSS started.
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Connery, to me,looked bored in DAF, and Moore in 1973 looked much more energetic as well in LALD, than Connery did in DAF.
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bjmdds wrote:Connery, to me,looked bored in DAF, and Moore in 1973 looked much more energetic as well in LALD, than Connery did in DAF.
Are you kidding? :shock: I though Connery, while not on top form like in DN-TB, was energetic and very fun to watch, despite being on the flabby side. And to be honest, I found him more humorous than Roger Moore in any Bond film.

If Connery looked bored in a Bond film, it would be YOLT. Everytime I watch that film I feel just as dreadful as Connery does in it, it's just no fun. A huge step down from his prime form in TB.
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Let's not forget that Daniel Craig has one thing in common with Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. Or at least he did while training for Casino Royale.
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Eye Of The Tiger wrote:Let's not forget that Daniel Craig has one thing in common with Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. Or at least he did while training for Casino Royale.
Typical weak jab. :roll:
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stockslivevan wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:Let's not forget that Daniel Craig has one thing in common with Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. Or at least he did while training for Casino Royale.
Typical weak jab. :roll:
Seriously.

I became interested in bodybuilding at a very young age. Starting at about 10 years old I took up boxing and weightlifting. At the age of 13 I was as strong or stronger than most men are when they hit their early 20's. I had memberships at gym's, drank the protein shakes, you name it, I did it when it came to bodybuilding, except for take steroids. I got as strong as anyone realistically could at a young age without taking steroids.

And I can tell you that there is no way that Daniel Craig got as big as he did that fast without taking steroids. Craig was never a really muscular guy until he started workingout for Casino Royale, and yet in a matter of just a few months he was extremely muscular.

I'd bet the farm that he was taking steroids while he was training for Casino Royale.
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Eye Of The Tiger wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:Let's not forget that Daniel Craig has one thing in common with Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. Or at least he did while training for Casino Royale.
Typical weak jab. :roll:
Seriously.

I became interested in bodybuilding at a very young age. Starting at about 10 years old I took up boxing and weightlifting. At the age of 13 I was as strong or stronger than most men are when they hit their early 20's. I had memberships at gym's, drank the protein shakes, you name it, I did it when it came to bodybuilding, except for take steroids. I got as strong as anyone realistically could at a young age without taking steroids.

And I can tell you that there is no way that Daniel Craig got as big as he did that fast without taking steroids. Craig was never a really muscular guy until he started workingout for Casino Royale, and yet in a matter of just a few months he was extremely muscular.

I'd bet the farm that he was taking steroids while he was training for Casino Royale.
Wasn't Craig already a pretty fit and reasonably muscle toned bloke before his extra workouts prior to filming Casino Royale.

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Arthur Brain wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:Let's not forget that Daniel Craig has one thing in common with Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. Or at least he did while training for Casino Royale.
Typical weak jab. :roll:
Seriously.

I became interested in bodybuilding at a very young age. Starting at about 10 years old I took up boxing and weightlifting. At the age of 13 I was as strong or stronger than most men are when they hit their early 20's. I had memberships at gym's, drank the protein shakes, you name it, I did it when it came to bodybuilding, except for take steroids. I got as strong as anyone realistically could at a young age without taking steroids.

And I can tell you that there is no way that Daniel Craig got as big as he did that fast without taking steroids. Craig was never a really muscular guy until he started workingout for Casino Royale, and yet in a matter of just a few months he was extremely muscular.

I'd bet the farm that he was taking steroids while he was training for Casino Royale.
Wasn't Craig already a pretty fit and reasonably muscle toned bloke before his extra workouts prior to filming Casino Royale.

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Of course and it worked out for him. It's not some leap of logic like say some scrawny man suddenly became big as Arnold Schwarzenegger . Craig was already a well fit man, look at Layer Cake.
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Arthur Brain wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:Let's not forget that Daniel Craig has one thing in common with Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. Or at least he did while training for Casino Royale.
Typical weak jab. :roll:
Seriously.

I became interested in bodybuilding at a very young age. Starting at about 10 years old I took up boxing and weightlifting. At the age of 13 I was as strong or stronger than most men are when they hit their early 20's. I had memberships at gym's, drank the protein shakes, you name it, I did it when it came to bodybuilding, except for take steroids. I got as strong as anyone realistically could at a young age without taking steroids.

And I can tell you that there is no way that Daniel Craig got as big as he did that fast without taking steroids. Craig was never a really muscular guy until he started workingout for Casino Royale, and yet in a matter of just a few months he was extremely muscular.

I'd bet the farm that he was taking steroids while he was training for Casino Royale.
Wasn't Craig already a pretty fit and reasonably muscle toned bloke before his extra workouts prior to filming Casino Royale.

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He was never even close to being as built as he was in CR. He may, I don't know, have had some muscle in the past? But he was never huge like he was in CR.
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stockslivevan wrote:
Arthur Brain wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:Let's not forget that Daniel Craig has one thing in common with Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. Or at least he did while training for Casino Royale.
Typical weak jab. :roll:
Seriously.

I became interested in bodybuilding at a very young age. Starting at about 10 years old I took up boxing and weightlifting. At the age of 13 I was as strong or stronger than most men are when they hit their early 20's. I had memberships at gym's, drank the protein shakes, you name it, I did it when it came to bodybuilding, except for take steroids. I got as strong as anyone realistically could at a young age without taking steroids.

And I can tell you that there is no way that Daniel Craig got as big as he did that fast without taking steroids. Craig was never a really muscular guy until he started workingout for Casino Royale, and yet in a matter of just a few months he was extremely muscular.

I'd bet the farm that he was taking steroids while he was training for Casino Royale.
Wasn't Craig already a pretty fit and reasonably muscle toned bloke before his extra workouts prior to filming Casino Royale.

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Of course and it worked out for him. It's not some leap of logic like say some scrawny man suddenly became big as Arnold Schwarzenegger . Craig was already a well fit man, look at Layer Cake.
Trust me. Putting aside any dislike that I have for Daniel Craig, and just being objective, I can tell you that he was on either Steroids or HGH. And to be honest I don't think that HGH alone could have gotten him that big.

Getting really, really muscular is harder than most people realize. You can't get that big that fast without steroids.

Arnold didn't get to be that big without steroids.

Arnold, Hulk Hogan, all of those huge guys were on steroids at one time.
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Eye Of The Tiger wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
Arthur Brain wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:Typical weak jab. :roll:
Seriously.

I became interested in bodybuilding at a very young age. Starting at about 10 years old I took up boxing and weightlifting. At the age of 13 I was as strong or stronger than most men are when they hit their early 20's. I had memberships at gym's, drank the protein shakes, you name it, I did it when it came to bodybuilding, except for take steroids. I got as strong as anyone realistically could at a young age without taking steroids.

And I can tell you that there is no way that Daniel Craig got as big as he did that fast without taking steroids. Craig was never a really muscular guy until he started workingout for Casino Royale, and yet in a matter of just a few months he was extremely muscular.

I'd bet the farm that he was taking steroids while he was training for Casino Royale.
Wasn't Craig already a pretty fit and reasonably muscle toned bloke before his extra workouts prior to filming Casino Royale.

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Of course and it worked out for him. It's not some leap of logic like say some scrawny man suddenly became big as Arnold Schwarzenegger . Craig was already a well fit man, look at Layer Cake.
Trust me. Putting aside any dislike that I have for Daniel Craig, and just being objective, I can tell you that he was on either Steroids or HGH. And to be honest I don't think that HGH alone could have gotten him that big.

Getting really, really muscular is harder than most people realize. You can't get that big that fast without steroids.

Arnold didn't get to be that big without steroids.

Arnold, Hulk Hogan, all of those huge guys were on steroids at one time.
And? Your point being?

Is this relevant to why you don't like him as Bond.....? :?
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"Craig takes steroids, therefore that makes him evil and I dislike him as Bond"

That's the vibe of tone I got. Unless you've got something more to say about it instead of saying? And do you have any proof that he takes steroids? Is there an article with Craig saying "Oh yes I take steroids"? :?
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The Sweeney wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:
stockslivevan wrote:
Arthur Brain wrote:
Eye Of The Tiger wrote:
Seriously.

I became interested in bodybuilding at a very young age. Starting at about 10 years old I took up boxing and weightlifting. At the age of 13 I was as strong or stronger than most men are when they hit their early 20's. I had memberships at gym's, drank the protein shakes, you name it, I did it when it came to bodybuilding, except for take steroids. I got as strong as anyone realistically could at a young age without taking steroids.

And I can tell you that there is no way that Daniel Craig got as big as he did that fast without taking steroids. Craig was never a really muscular guy until he started workingout for Casino Royale, and yet in a matter of just a few months he was extremely muscular.

I'd bet the farm that he was taking steroids while he was training for Casino Royale.
Wasn't Craig already a pretty fit and reasonably muscle toned bloke before his extra workouts prior to filming Casino Royale.

EA
Of course and it worked out for him. It's not some leap of logic like say some scrawny man suddenly became big as Arnold Schwarzenegger . Craig was already a well fit man, look at Layer Cake.
Trust me. Putting aside any dislike that I have for Daniel Craig, and just being objective, I can tell you that he was on either Steroids or HGH. And to be honest I don't think that HGH alone could have gotten him that big.

Getting really, really muscular is harder than most people realize. You can't get that big that fast without steroids.

Arnold didn't get to be that big without steroids.

Arnold, Hulk Hogan, all of those huge guys were on steroids at one time.
And? Your point being?

Is this relevant to why you don't like him as Bond.....? :?
No, not at all. Whether he took/takes steroids doesn't play any role in how much I like or dislike him.

It's just that the picture of Craig in CR was used to show how much better shape that Craig is than Brosnan in the opinion of the person behind the article. So I just simply pointed out that In my strong opinion Daniel Craig was on steroids to get into that shape.

Stallone is one of my favorite actors, and he uses HGH to help him stay in shape. That's his choice, just the same as it's Craig's choice whether he wants to use something like that to get into shape.

I'm just saying that as someone who has a great deal of experience with weight lifting and workouts in general, that it's strongly my honest opinion that he did take steroids to get that big that fast.

Funny thing is that there never has been any need for James Bond to be a big muscle-bound guy, but that's not my point in this thread. My problem/s with Craig is that he's completely misscast as James Bond, and that he's a jerk in real life too.
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stockslivevan wrote:And do you have any proof that he takes steroids? Is there an article with Craig saying "Oh yes I take steroids"? :?
No, I don't have proof that he did/does take steroids. But I'd bet the house on it that he did to prepare for CR.
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There is one thing for certain, regardless of whether he has taken 'steroids' or not, to get the physique like Craig had in CR, he had to work hard for it.

I actually thought he was in decent shape in Layer Cake. He wasn't carrying excess fat and was certainly toned up. With the right training, supplements and controlled diet, I honestly believe he could get to the size he was in CR without using illegal substances.

I too used to train at the gym regularly and used a variety of supplements to maintain and build my shape. With the right proteins, creatine and muscle repairing supplements, you can train the same muscle groups daily. That said, I think DC's frame is not perfect. He has overworked his chest.

*I recommend a few more lat pull downs* :wink:
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Eye Of The Tiger wrote:My problem/s with Craig is that he's completely misscast as James Bond, and that he's a jerk in real life too.
Why do you think he is a jerk in real life?
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Skywalker wrote:There is one thing for certain, regardless of whether he has taken 'steroids' or not, to get the physique like Craig had in CR, he had to work hard for it.

I actually thought he was in decent shape in Layer Cake. He wasn't carrying excess fat and was certainly toned up. With the right training, supplements and controlled diet, I honestly believe he could get to the size he was in CR without using illegal substances.

I too used to train at the gym regularly and used a variety of supplements to maintain and build my shape. With the right proteins, creatine and muscle repairing supplements, you can train the same muscle groups daily. That said, I think DC's frame is not perfect. He has overworked his chest.

*I recommend a few more lat pull downs* :wink:
I always had any easier time building up my arms than my chest. I have myself thought that Craig over did the chest when compared to the rest of his body.
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