The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Kristatos]

The new Mission Impossible film, which I will see this weekend, is NOT doing that great at the box office.

I think people are getting tired of sequels. Barbie is based on an existing IP, and Oppenheimer is a biopic of a real historical figure, but neither is a sequel to a previous movie, so I think they hit that sweet spot between familiarity and novelty. I doubt a completely original movie would fare as well at the box office.

[bjmdds]

Screenrant's TC Phillips, whoever he is, sees things this way: 'If the Bond franchise is to continue to thrive in the 21st century, it will need to continue to evolve with the world in which it is set. Yet Paapa Essiedu’s comments do also raise a very important point, and while many may lobby to see an actor of color cast as the next 007, there is far more involved in championing diverse representation than simply picking the next actor to play Bond. A future that embraces a truly diverse James Bond franchise would require shakeups both in front of and behind the cameras.'--------another wokester the does not get the fact that the character was created by its author and that you DON'T change that because you have an ideology you want to propagate. I would LOVE to ask his kind how he would feel having a WHITE PERSON OF COLOR cast in the role of Muhammad Ali, instead of Willy the hand slapper Smith, or as the Black Panther? https://screenrant.com/james-bond-diver ... -response/

[Kristatos]

Screenrant's TC Phillips, whoever he is, sees things this way: 'If the Bond franchise is to continue to thrive in the 21st century, it will need to continue to evolve with the world in which it is set. Yet Paapa Essiedu’s comments do also raise a very important point, and while many may lobby to see an actor of color cast as the next 007, there is far more involved in championing diverse representation than simply picking the next actor to play Bond. A future that embraces a truly diverse James Bond franchise would require shakeups both in front of and behind the cameras.'--------another wokester the does not get the fact that the character was created by its author and that you DON'T change that because you have an ideology you want to propagate. I would LOVE to ask his kind how he would feel having a WHITE PERSON OF COLOR cast in the role of Muhammad Ali, instead of Willy the hand slapper Smith, or as the Black Panther? https://screenrant.com/james-bond-diver ... -response/

I read that interview with Essiedu in The Times. It doesn't sound like he's exactly champing at the bit to play Bond, though he doesn't rule himself out either. He does display a healthy disdain for stories about bookies' odds ("my career choices are not dictated by William Hill").

I've nearly finished reading that book by John Higgs that I mentioned upthread. Given the distaste for Bond and Fleming shown throughout the book, I was expecting the worst when his final chapter was about his suggestions for the future of the franchise. He does start the chapter by saying that Babbzy's statement that Bond could be played by an actor of any ethnicity shouldn't be controversial in this day and age. But to my surprise, he contradicts this a few pages later by saying that it would be truer to the character to have him played by a straight white man. His reasoning was basically the same as mine, that a Bond who has experienced racism is a fundamentally different character. He does think that Bond should be played by a younger actor than has previously been the case, in order to attract a younger audience, and that he should be someone who seems to enjoy life the way Roger's and Pierce's Bond did, rather than the dour alcoholic played by Old Lemon Lips.

[dirtybenny]

It just goes to show "traditional Bond" transcends politics and only the most fractured of extremists, who wouldn't watch Bond anyway, want it to change.

[Kristatos]

It just goes to show "traditional Bond" transcends politics and only the most fractured of extremists, who wouldn't watch Bond anyway, want it to change.

Sounds like the makers of the Kill James Bond podcast, the existence of which I learned about from the Higgs book. Trying to make Bond appeal to people like that is, in the words of Winston Churchill, "like feeding a crocodile in the hope that it will eat you last".

[bjmdds]

I saw MI:Dead Reckoning last night. I can sum it up in 3 words: ULTRON vs. IMF........plenty of action and a bit long. It was OK but a far fetched plot for sure.

[Kristatos]

Variety here, apparently acting on the principle that if they just name every male British actor in their 30s, one of them is bound to be right:

https://variety.com/lists/next-james-bo ... jean-page/

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[Omega]

This is an interesting little interview with would be Bond in TLD, Finlay Light. Looking forward to everyone's thoughts on last paragraph about Babz https://venetianvase.co.uk/2023/07/05/f ... ames-bond/

No surprise there. Didn't she shag Dalton as well?

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On a similar sort of note, Michael Billington was the '007 in waiting' back up option to Roger Moore through the seventies and up to Octopussy. He did more Bond screentests than any other actor and had a bit part in the pre-credit sequence for TSWLM. According to the picture below he was also engaged to Barbara!

https://www.alamy.com/cubby-broccoli-an ... archtype=0

I knew he was in the running all the way back to LALD, but I did not know he was engaged to Barbara...wow.

I never knew this. Seems like Babs used Bond as her casting couch.


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[Kristatos]

I saw MI:Dead Reckoning last night. I can sum it up in 3 words: ULTRON vs. IMF........plenty of action and a bit long. It was OK but a far fetched plot for sure.

It's the "part 1" that puts me off, along with the fact that I haven't seen the last couple of films. It seems that as TV becomes more cinematic, movies are becoming more like TV episodes.

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[Omega]

Part one if kind of off putting. I might not have seen latest spiderverse movie if I’d known it was part 1.
Unless part two is ready to roll out to theaters by Christmas why mention it?

If the mi movies comes to a halt here, this mi is short of the last two but not by all that much , us market usually gives mi $190-200 million , $70 million off at the moment . Foreign $480 to 590 million , about $200 million off at the moment and I have no idea if these more markets to follow . If they hit $600million it’ll be close to the mark.
First mi after Covid, part 1 in the name , is the generation who went to mi movies still going to theaters? , in todays market even Indiana Jones couldn’t draw a crowd.


But mi is not far from what these movies normally do. They were never that big in the Bo.


Also after lasts years top gun maverick plenty want to take Tom cruse down a few pegs.

But most Covid movies are problematic , John wick was did live up to the previous movies, also might be sequel dependent to justify it.


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[Omega]

I'm curious to know when this offer to the Goat of Mendes was made, given that we're perpetually being told that there's no movement on a new Bond film, and that we're forever two years away from production starting. The article doesn't say, and I'm wondering if this isn't an old story that they dug out of the files, and if the Bond film he was offered wasn't NTTD.

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An excellent point Kris and considering the state of "journalism" today, particularly the "entertainment" variety, I'm sure you're spot on. However considering the ass backwards way EON produces a film it's right in step for them to hire the director first before doing anything else on the production, least of all write the script, which we all know they do as they film because that is the best way!

I was thinking the same thing, these click bait stories shamelessly use original sources years even decades old to generate new content .


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[bjmdds]

How much longer before Broccoli's decision becomes irrelevant? It is obvious what is going on here.

[Kristatos]

It is obvious what is going on here.

It is?

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[bjmdds]

She is not being pressured by Amazon so she can just sit back and fantasize about her past with Cr-egg. At some point she should step aside.

[Kristatos]

I would take comfort in the fact that Bond should enter the public domain in a decade or so, but they recently changed the law to stop characters like Mickey Mouse and Superman from entering the public domain. I imagine that the current copyright holders will also keep renewing the copyright on Bond indefinitely.

[bjmdds]

Broadway is trying to be as UN-original as possible with this new play starting now: https://twitter.com/BTTFBway/status/1683839526417096705

[Kristatos]

Broadway is trying to be as UN-original as possible with this new play starting now: https://twitter.com/BTTFBway/status/1683839526417096705

I'm not really au fait with Broadway musicals, but hasn't it been that way for a while? I'm pretty sure I remember reading complaints from several years ago that all the big shows were either based on existing properties or revivals of older musicals like Oklahoma.

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[bjmdds]

I just did my yearly blood test. After 3 1/2 years of being infected with the ORIGINAL potent strain of Covid in March 2020, I STILL have NATURAL immunity with antibodies thankfully. My friends took the so-called vaccines and their immunities lasted only between 6 months to 1 year. Fauci knowingly LIED to the public and knew that NATURAL immunity was MORE effective than any drug manufactured vaccine. The drug companies cleaned up financially on this tragedy.

[kater23]

Amazingly, I have NOT gotten Covid. Lord knows I’ve taken risks and I need to be careful because of being diabetic.

[Kristatos]

Amazingly, I have NOT gotten Covid. Lord knows I’ve taken risks and I need to be careful because of being diabetic.

Me neither, so far, touch wood.

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