Of course I didn't mean that people "hated" Daniel Craig before he was chosen as Bond; I meant that people hated the idea of Daniel Craig as Bond. But most of them came round because they liked him; felt they had to get behind him because they are "Bond" fans and wanted to carry on posting on forums etc etc.
It was a shock to many people to have 40 year old Daniel Craig selected to play the young Bond on his first misssion!
2006 Version of Casino Royale: By Ian Fleming??
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Re: 2006 Version of Casino Royale: By Ian Fleming??
As people have posted here Royale is not the Bond Fleming wrote.X3C wrote:A lot of highly intelligent people claiming to be 'ian fleming experts' say that the CR movie is exactly what Ian fleming wrote...
their basis:
they are the greatest bond fan in history and they have read all of ian fleming's books a million times and all the bond movies of the same count and they say it is exactly what EON & Sony's 2006 Version of Casino Royale is all about.
Take the important details (from bond's appearance, personality and his taste for the things he wanted) and that ian fleming wrote on his book, especially the ones found on the following books: casino royale, goldfinger, from russia with love & On her Majesty's Secret Service.
then if you have the patience, (if you're a bond fan who dislike the CR movie) watch the movie, listen carefully, watch & understand how 'James Bond' is introduced (from his personality, his taste for the things he wanted, and his appearance).
Then tell me that this is exactly the James Bond that Ian Fleming wrote and Daniel Craig is the actor that Ian Fleming wanted for James Bond.
Ian Fleming's Bond was written in the 50's, (during the cold war era) and he came from the Navy. I don't need to repeat all the details here, I don't need to mention his drinks, card games, personality etc. The books by Ian Fleming will tell you Bond's character. The things found in his book is the only James Bond that he wrote. The 'James Bond' and the story that we see from the EON & Sony's 2006 version of Casino Royale is not what Ian Fleming wrote. It was written by Purvis, Wade, and the 'James Bond' concept came from BB. The only thing that came from Ian Fleming's Novel was the Book title, his name, the name of his British Spy & the Ball Busting Torture scene. Nothing More.
EON & Sony's James Bond is different from Flemings Bond. People who is not familiar with Fleming's James Bond will surely love EON & Sony's 'James Bond'. Some Old Time Bonders will like it too. New Bond lovers will surely love this because they think Bond is just another action hero and they were made to believe that this is the history of Fleming's Bond.
A Bond fan who dislikes the new 'James Bond' may not be a genius but they do know the Bond that was written by Fleming.
EON & Sony's 2006 Version of Casino Royale: Made by Ian Fleming?
EON & Sony's 2006 Version of Casino Royale: Quantity or Quality (basing on Flemings Bond)
There are discrepancies all the way from age and looks, down to attitude and Bond's history.
I think Casino Royale 2006 and Daniel Craig's interpretation of oo7 are best explained as the Eon/Sony 21st century version.
OHMSS is still the closest Eon has come to capturing one of Ian Fleming's stories.
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Yes, it was. I wonder, do some of you alleged novel fans actually read the books, or are you trying to pass your self off as Ian Fleming fans?
The film was based on the novel, however, the novel and the plot where both updated to what's going on today, given the fact it's a reboot of the franchise; and that SMERSH along with the KGB do not exist any more, they've both been dead since the fall of the union. I'm going to do a comparison between the novel and the film.
Novel:
Ian Fleming out-lines how Bond made his first two kills to become a 00
Film:
Shows Bond making his first two kills.
Novel: Le Chiffre is a banker working for SMERSH
Film: Le Chiffre is a banker working for the world's terrorist(Notice: SMERSH DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE)
Novel: Le Chiffe is running a baccarat game at Casino Royale to raise money, mainly to recover SMERSH's money that he lost in a failed attempt to establish a chain of brothels
Film:Le Chiffre, a banker for the world's terrorist organization, uses his coonections to stage attacks against certain companies in order to sell their stocks with his clients funds. Bond foils Le Chiffre's plan to blow up a prototype airliner at Miami international Airport, which causes a huge lose for Le Chiffre. Then, Le Chiffre sets up a high stakes texas hold 'em poker game at Casino Royale, to recover from losing the LRA's money.
Novel:
Bond has to beat Le Chiffre in a game of poker and bring him into MI6.
Film:
Bond has to beat Le Chiffre in a game of poker and bring him into MI6
Novel: Bond loses the first round with Le Chiffre
Film: Bond loses the first round with Le Chiffre
Novel:
Felix fronts Bond after he loses his first round with Le Chiffre; However, Felix makes a deal with Bond, to let the CIA take Le Chiffre in.
Film:
Felix fronts Bond after he loses his first round with Le Chiffre; but, he makes a deal with Bond, to let the CIA will take Le Chiffre in
Novel:
Bond beats Le Chiffre
Film:
Bond beats Le Chiffre
Novel:
Bond gets kid napped by Le Chiffre, because Le Chiffre wants to know where the money is
Film:
Bond gets kid napped by Le Chiffre, because Le Chiffre wants to know where the money is
Novel: A Smersh agent kills Le Chiffre because he lost their money
Film: Mr. White(who is basically the smersh agent), kills Le Chiffre because he lost the LRA's money
Novel:
Bond gets ready to retire from MI6 after the events with Le Chiffre
Film:
Bond gets ready to retire from MI6 after the events with Le Chiffre
Novel: Vesper betrays Bond
Film: Vesper betrays Bond
Novel: Vesper kills her self
Film: Vesper kills her self.
The film was based on the novel, however, the novel and the plot where both updated to what's going on today, given the fact it's a reboot of the franchise; and that SMERSH along with the KGB do not exist any more, they've both been dead since the fall of the union. I'm going to do a comparison between the novel and the film.
Novel:
Ian Fleming out-lines how Bond made his first two kills to become a 00
Film:
Shows Bond making his first two kills.
Novel: Le Chiffre is a banker working for SMERSH
Film: Le Chiffre is a banker working for the world's terrorist(Notice: SMERSH DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE)
Novel: Le Chiffe is running a baccarat game at Casino Royale to raise money, mainly to recover SMERSH's money that he lost in a failed attempt to establish a chain of brothels
Film:Le Chiffre, a banker for the world's terrorist organization, uses his coonections to stage attacks against certain companies in order to sell their stocks with his clients funds. Bond foils Le Chiffre's plan to blow up a prototype airliner at Miami international Airport, which causes a huge lose for Le Chiffre. Then, Le Chiffre sets up a high stakes texas hold 'em poker game at Casino Royale, to recover from losing the LRA's money.
Novel:
Bond has to beat Le Chiffre in a game of poker and bring him into MI6.
Film:
Bond has to beat Le Chiffre in a game of poker and bring him into MI6
Novel: Bond loses the first round with Le Chiffre
Film: Bond loses the first round with Le Chiffre
Novel:
Felix fronts Bond after he loses his first round with Le Chiffre; However, Felix makes a deal with Bond, to let the CIA take Le Chiffre in.
Film:
Felix fronts Bond after he loses his first round with Le Chiffre; but, he makes a deal with Bond, to let the CIA will take Le Chiffre in
Novel:
Bond beats Le Chiffre
Film:
Bond beats Le Chiffre
Novel:
Bond gets kid napped by Le Chiffre, because Le Chiffre wants to know where the money is
Film:
Bond gets kid napped by Le Chiffre, because Le Chiffre wants to know where the money is
Novel: A Smersh agent kills Le Chiffre because he lost their money
Film: Mr. White(who is basically the smersh agent), kills Le Chiffre because he lost the LRA's money
Novel:
Bond gets ready to retire from MI6 after the events with Le Chiffre
Film:
Bond gets ready to retire from MI6 after the events with Le Chiffre
Novel: Vesper betrays Bond
Film: Vesper betrays Bond
Novel: Vesper kills her self
Film: Vesper kills her self.
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Good post, man with no name, regarding the novel comparisons.
You also missed Bond recovering in hospital. This happened in both the book and the film, and is the first time we have ever seen this on film.
To me, this was the biggest breakthrough in making Craig's Bond closer to the books than anyone else who has played Bond.
You also missed Bond recovering in hospital. This happened in both the book and the film, and is the first time we have ever seen this on film.
To me, this was the biggest breakthrough in making Craig's Bond closer to the books than anyone else who has played Bond.