Bond 22 Admissions

[Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry]

I don't think $800 million is realistic. Bond 22 faces more competition than Casino Royale also.

[james stock]

I don't think $800 million is realistic. Bond 22 faces more competition than Casino Royale also.

I think people will buy into it with it being the new Bond film so to speak so it will do good business unless the people that did not like it abstain from going. Lets hope so

[English Agent]

I don't think $800 million is realistic. Bond 22 faces more competition than Casino Royale also.

I think people will buy into it with it being the new Bond film so to speak so it will do good business unless the people that did not like it abstain from going. Lets hope so

What more competition..........the next instalment of the HARRY POTHEAD
franchise doesn't get released until i believe two weeks after Bond 22.

In the past Bond has usually been released a week after POTTER.

[James]

I don't think $800 million is realistic. Bond 22 faces more competition than Casino Royale also.

I think people will buy into it with it being the new Bond film so to speak so it will do good business unless the people that did not like it abstain from going. Lets hope so

What more competition..........the next instalment of the HARRY POTHEAD
franchise doesn't get released until i believe two weeks after Bond 22.

In the past Bond has usually been released a week after POTTER.

Blimey, check the facts first before posting.

Bond 22 goes head to head with Madagascar and Potter is released a couple of weeks later. I don't know what else will be on release but it can't be as quiet as november 2006.

[English Agent]

I don't think $800 million is realistic. Bond 22 faces more competition than Casino Royale also.

I think people will buy into it with it being the new Bond film so to speak so it will do good business unless the people that did not like it abstain from going. Lets hope so

What more competition..........the next instalment of the HARRY POTHEAD
franchise doesn't get released until i believe two weeks after Bond 22.

In the past Bond has usually been released a week after POTTER.

Blimey, check the facts first before posting.

Bond 22 goes head to head with Madagascar and Potter is released a couple of weeks later. I don't know what else will be on release but it can't be as quiet as november 2006.

Yes, but 'Madagascar' will appeal to a different demographic audience.

Apart from that, Bond 22 will have 2 full weeks to itself to gain huge boxoffice receipts before the other studios launch their big films prior
to the thanksgiving holiday.

[Skywalker]

Regardless of how many films are on at the same time as Bond 22, I'm sure if people want to watch it they will. For me, the admissions/BO takings are irrelevant if the same formula is used and we get the same turkey we got with CR.

[James1090]

Bond 22 will draw alot of people is one thing: being part of the bond series. As much as people don't like Daniel Craig, me included, people will still go to see it since it is James Bond.

[james stock]

Regardless of how many films are on at the same time as Bond 22, I'm sure if people want to watch it they will. For me, the admissions/BO takings are irrelevant if the same formula is used and we get the same turkey we got with CR.

Agreed Skywalker! it will be a Turkey that much is certain. The names Bland James Bland

[English Agent]

Regardless of how many films are on at the same time as Bond 22, I'm sure if people want to watch it they will. For me, the admissions/BO takings are irrelevant if the same formula is used and we get the same turkey we got with CR.

Agreed Skywalker! it will be a Turkey that much is certain. The names Bland James Bland

The only 'turkey' that Bond 22 will be, is when we are all eating one at xmas 2008...celebrating its blistering worldwide success.

[Skywalker]

Regardless of how many films are on at the same time as Bond 22, I'm sure if people want to watch it they will. For me, the admissions/BO takings are irrelevant if the same formula is used and we get the same turkey we got with CR.

Agreed Skywalker! it will be a Turkey that much is certain. The names Bland James Bland

The only 'turkey' that Bond 22 will be, is when we are all eating one at xmas 2008...celebrating its blistering worldwide success.

If the film has successfull BO takings, but is a distinctly average Bond film (In the eyes of the general public), will you still defend it?

[Kristatos]

If the film has successfull BO takings, but is a distinctly average Bond film (In the eyes of the general public), will you still defend it?

I think that should be when, not if, it is a box office success. The rising price of cinema tickets coupled with the plummeting value of the dollar make $600 million (a barrier CR only missed by $3 million) virtually a lock.

[Kristatos]

Bond's worldwide adjusted gross:

Film Gross (milllions)
TB 1101
GF 852.6
FRWL 631.8
LALD 607.3
CR 594.2
MR 564.2
TSWLM 551
YOLT 541.7
GE 538.2
DAD 521.1
TWINE 511.2
TND 500.6
DN 478
DAF 466.1
FYEO 466.1
OHMSS 413.7
OP 394.5
TMWTGG 342.1
TLD 324.2
AVTAK 284.4
LTK 259.2

Note that there has been some controversy over a possible statistical error in calculating LALD's gross, and that the actual figure may be much lower.

Update: I have seen a figure for LALD's worldwide gross of $474,429,666 posted on IMDb, Wikipedia and alt.fan.james-bond, which would place it between DN and DAF on the table. I know none of those sources are definitive, but it sounds like a more plausible figure given the grosses of the films that immediately preceded and succeeded it (DAF and TMWTGG respectively).

[Skywalker]

If the film has successfull BO takings, but is a distinctly average Bond film (In the eyes of the general public), will you still defend it?

I think that should be when, not if, it is a box office success. The rising price of cinema tickets coupled with the plummeting value of the dollar make $600 million (a barrier CR only missed by $3 million) virtually a lock.

Based on that, what value would you consider to be a realistic target for CR to achieve?

[Kristatos]

Based on that, what value would you consider to be a realistic target for CR to achieve?

Ooh, I hate making box office predictions. They have the capacity to make a person look very foolish. But the last two Brosnan Bonds added 30 and 70 million unadjusted dollars to their predecessors' worldwide totals, so I'm going to split the difference and say $650 million. Then again, TND did less than GE even in unadjusted dollars, so maybe the second film curse will hit Craig as did Brosnan, Dalton and Moore. Although TND was competing against some movie about a boat that did rather well, so it depends what the competition is like. Whatever, I don't think EON will be manning the lifeboats if there is a drop, unless it drops a ridiculous amount, like $300 million. Then there may have to be a rethink about the series' direction.

[Skywalker]

Based on that, what value would you consider to be a realistic target for CR to achieve?

Ooh, I hate making box office predictions. They have the capacity to make a person look very foolish. But the last two Brosnan Bonds added 30 and 70 million unadjusted dollars to their predecessors' worldwide totals, so I'm going to split the difference and say $650 million. Then again, TND did less than GE even in unadjusted dollars, so maybe the second film curse will hit Craig as did Brosnan, Dalton and Moore. Although TND was competing against some movie about a boat that did rather well, so it depends what the competition is like. Whatever, I don't think EON will be manning the lifeboats if there is a drop, unless it drops a ridiculous amount, like $300 million. Then there may have to be a rethink about the series' direction.

It's so hard to predict what the figure might be. I think your $650 million would be about right, as the curiousity factor should still be there and DC has gained new fans to the franchise. Apart from it being a truly poor film, I can't see Bond 22 being anything other than a financial success.

[james stock]

Based on that, what value would you consider to be a realistic target for CR to achieve?

Ooh, I hate making box office predictions. They have the capacity to make a person look very foolish. But the last two Brosnan Bonds added 30 and 70 million unadjusted dollars to their predecessors' worldwide totals, so I'm going to split the difference and say $650 million. Then again, TND did less than GE even in unadjusted dollars, so maybe the second film curse will hit Craig as did Brosnan, Dalton and Moore. Although TND was competing against some movie about a boat that did rather well, so it depends what the competition is like. Whatever, I don't think EON will be manning the lifeboats if there is a drop, unless it drops a ridiculous amount, like $300 million. Then there may have to be a rethink about the series' direction.

It's so hard to predict what the figure might be. I think your $650 million would be about right, as the curiousity factor should still be there and DC has gained new fans to the franchise. Apart from it being a truly poor film, I can't see Bond 22 being anything other than a financial success.

I think it will maybe make 300 million worldwide, depends greatly on what competition it has also Craig last film the invasion was a disaster of the highest order. His next release the golden compass looks like it could bomb what with Stardust and The seeker (which has floped in the U.S) these film look kind of similar

[Kristatos]

It's so hard to predict what the figure might be. I think your $650 million would be about right, as the curiousity factor should still be there and DC has gained new fans to the franchise.

He's almost certainly lost some, too. The pro-Craigers like to assume that we're the only people in the world who weren't happy with the new direction, but they base their assumption on a couple of false premises:

1) That critical and fan opinion necessarily reflects opinion among the wider moviegoing community. LTK disproves that assumption.

2) That everyone who went to see CR liked it ("if people weren't happy with it, it wouldn't have made $600 million").

The curiosity of a new Bond undoubtedly drew some people in, but by the law of averages, there will be some people who were turned off by the new approach (and I'm not talking about hardcore fans like us, who would probably go to see a new Bond film if they cast Michael Jackson in the role, I'm talking about Joe Q. Multiplex). EON's gamble is that the new fans equal or outnumber the people who won't be back for Bond 22. Only time will tell if the gamble pays off.

[james stock]

It's so hard to predict what the figure might be. I think your $650 million would be about right, as the curiousity factor should still be there and DC has gained new fans to the franchise.

He's almost certainly lost some, too. The pro-Craigers like to assume that we're the only people in the world who weren't happy with the new direction, but they base their assumption on a couple of false premises:

1) That critical and fan opinion necessarily reflects opinion among the wider moviegoing community. LTK disproves that assumption.

2) That everyone who went to see CR liked it ("if people weren't happy with it, it wouldn't have made $600 million").

The curiosity of a new Bond undoubtedly drew some people in, but by the law of averages, there will be some people who were turned off by the new approach (and I'm not talking about hardcore fans like us, who would probably go to see a new Bond film if they cast Michael Jackson in the role, I'm talking about Joe Q. Multiplex). EON's gamble is that the new fans equal or outnumber the people who won't be back for Bond 22. Only time will tell if the gamble pays off.

Good Post Kristatos

I agree, have you checked the Imdb reviews there are a lot of bad i mean scathing reviews by joe public. One review i read i think it was in a TV magazine acually said that Royale would anger Bond purists but enthrall everyone else, if that does not describe what Eon were trying to do i dont what does.

[Kristatos]

I agree, have you checked the Imdb reviews there are a lot of bad i mean scathing reviews by joe public. One review i read i think it was in a TV magazine acually said that Royale would anger Bond purists but enthrall everyone else, if that does not describe what Eon were trying to do i dont what does.

I haven't checked the IMDb reviews, but it sounds like they achieved exactly the opposite.

[james stock]

I agree, have you checked the Imdb reviews there are a lot of bad i mean scathing reviews by joe public. One review i read i think it was in a TV magazine acually said that Royale would anger Bond purists but enthrall everyone else, if that does not describe what Eon were trying to do i dont what does.

I haven't checked the IMDb reviews, but it sounds like they achieved exactly the opposite.

I remember when licence to kill was considered controversial and unbondian retrospetivly its far more bondian than royale i dont know swings and rounder bouts i guess. Anyhow Royale was a hit and no doubt 22 will be too does not mean we have to like it though