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Come on people, it's Captain America you should be rooting for. That was actually a good movie.
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katied wrote:My parents are trying to find a movie to take my niece and nephews to when they're over at my parents' house for a week(my brother and his wife are going to Hawaii, the luckies!) and The Smurfs and Harry Potter are both under consideration.
How old are they? Potter might be a little intense for younger kiddies.
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How old are they? Potter might be a little intense for younger kiddies.
13, 10 and 6. It'd be fine for the 13 year old, less so for the 10 year old, and REALLY not OK for the 6 year old. :happy spin:
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Kristatos wrote:
katied wrote:My parents are trying to find a movie to take my niece and nephews to when they're over at my parents' house for a week(my brother and his wife are going to Hawaii, the luckies!) and The Smurfs and Harry Potter are both under consideration.
How old are they? Potter might be a little intense for younger kiddies.
Captain America, people.
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stockslivevan wrote:Come on people, it's Captain America you should be rooting for. That was actually a good movie.
Oh I AM rooting for it. Love Chris Evans and what I saw of the footage was most definitely good.
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Actuals are now in and it seems CvA has narrowly beaten Avatar 2.
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You mean the sequel to Dances With Smurfs. :lol:
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C&A took 1st place althou under expectations and the Smurfs were doing better than anyone predicted I think the writer hit on a important point Daniel is not a movie star. Make of that what you will.
Weekend Actuals
1. Cowboys & Aliens $36,431,290
2. The Smurfs $35,611,637
3. Captain America $25,554,303
Box Office: Why Cowboys & Aliens Got Smurfed
By Richard Corliss Sunday, July 31, 2011

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... 82,00.html
The big boys came into town — stars Daniel Craig and Harrison Ford, über-producers Steven Spielberg and Ron Howard, Iron Man director Jon Favreau — with a can't-miss hybrid of western bravado and sci-fi fantasy. And when the weekend gun smoke cleared, the bruisers staggered out bruised: they were fought to a draw by a passel of blue pint-size cuties from Belgium. According to early studio estimates, Cowboys & Aliens and The Smurfs both earned $36.2 million at the North American box office to tie for first place. The photo finish will be resolved on Monday, when the films' actual grosses are announced.

A farrago of live action and animation directed by mixed-media master Raja Gosnell (Scooby-Doo, Beverly Hills Chihuahua) and starring Neil Patrick Harris as the main human, the Smurfs movie got toasty-roasted by the critics, with a hapless 20% score on Rotten Tomatoes. But 8-year-olds give less credence to reviewers than to TV commercials, and the film's worldwide tie-in with McDonald's Happy Meals paid off in heightened awareness of this junk-food comedy. Attracting mostly kids and their parents (65% of the audience), The Smurfs cadged a lofty A-minus rating from CinemaScore's survey of exiting moviegoers, less than half of whom paid extra to see it in 3-D. Given its $110 million budget, the film will need to maintain good numbers for the next few weeks and do hearty business abroad if it is to spawn the sequels that Sony hopes to make. Still, odds are that the Smurfs will join the Chipmunks as small-fry profit generators. (See TIME's review of Cowboys & Aliens.)

For many, the surprise this weekend was not that The Smurfs did so well but that Cowboys & Aliens had such a wan debut. With a budget of $163 million, plus another bundle for marketing costs, the film mostly attracted the geezer demographic (63% of the weekend audience was over 30), and even with that, it managed only a mediocre B CinemaScore, which bodes ill for the movie's shelf life. Universal publicist Paul Pflug wrote in an e-mail on Sunday that "the pedigree of the filmmakers and bold concept made the film a bet worth taking." Yet plenty of indicators could have warned the sponsors of Cowboys & Aliens that this was a sucker's bet. Here are four:

1. Daniel Craig is not a movie star
A fine actor with a steely gaze and abs so hard that only a diamond could scratch them, he got a career dream-boost when he was cast as James Bond in the 2006 Casino Royale reboot. That film earned about $168 million in North America, as did the next 007 episode, Quantum of Solace. (Each film grossed more than $400 million abroad.) But the other 10 movies Craig has made since 2005 have pulled in a total of $171 million domestic, including big-budget underachievers like The Golden Compass, The Invasion and Spielberg's Munich. The 43-year-old Englishman has another Bond project on the horizon, plus the David Fincher remake of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and a prominent voice role in Spielberg's The Adventures of Tintin, so he may yet prove to be a box office magnet. But not now, and not with Cowboys & Aliens. (See pictures of Daniel Craig as James Bond.)


2. Harrison Ford is no longer a movie star
Franchise roles as Han Solo and Indiana Jones spurred this surly dude to a long run at the top of the pops. But Ford's mid-career marquee éclat, when he starred in such robust adult-oriented hits as The Fugitive, Clear and Present Danger and Air Force One is sooo last millennium. (And we don't mean Millennium Falcon.) Except for the predictably boffo Indy episode three years ago, no Ford vehicle in the past decade earned as much as $50 million domestic. Cowboys & Aliens will easily top that, but considering the movie's cost, it's not a gold star on his résumé.

3. The western is still dead
For more than half of the century-long span of feature films, the western was a dominant genre. But the sagebrush epic petered out in the 1970s and has emerged only fitfully since, usually because some powerful director wanted to pay tribute to the movies he loved as a kid. Thing is, few moviegoers of middle age or lower have been exposed to new westerns, let alone have developed an addiction to the form. It's been a couple of decades since Dances with Wolves and Unforgiven were big, Oscar-winning hits. And when the occasional nouveau western like 3:10 to Yuma or True Grit earns some cash at the domestic box office, it flops overseas. Hollywood movies are a global business, and a genre without global appeal is a risky investment.

4. Audiences don't want new things
Like a kid who resists hearing a bedtime story for the first time but loves hearing it for the hundredth, movie audiences want to see what they've already seen, in one medium or another. Of the 11 films that have topped the weekend box office since late April — Fast Five, Thor, Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, The Hangover Part II, X-Men: First Class, Super 8, Green Lantern, Cars 2, Transformers: Dark of the Moon, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 and Captain America: The First Avenger — all but one was either a sequel or part of a comic-book action-hero dynasty. Only Super 8 was an original idea, and like Cowboys & Aliens, it was a Spielberg-produced genre blender about an alien in a small town. The J.J. Abrams movie opened to $35.5 million, similar to this weekend's gross for the Favreau film, but cost only $50 million to make, or less than a third of the Cowboys & Aliens budget. Yoking an alien-invasion story to a western setting, the movie was both too old a genre and too fresh a concept. The result: bang-bang, cowpoke, you're dead. (See the top 10 movie duels.)

Elsewhere, the PG-13 romantic buddy comedy Crazy Stupid Love earned an O.K. $19.3 million in its opening weekend, and the Harry Potter finale, after less than three weeks' release, became the ninth film in history to earn at least $1 billion at the worldwide box office. (Transformers 3, now at $983 million, should reach the 10-digit mark in a week or so.) In indie action, the low-budget alien-invasion movie Attack the Block opened well, with $130,000 at eight venues; The Guard and The Devil's Double each took in about $20,000 per screen in limited release; and Miranda July's heavily hyped comedy The Future earned a comely $28,200 at a single New York theater.

Those four films can fight it out for bragging rights among the cinema cognoscenti. The quadrangular showdown will be less bloody than the one between Cowboys & Aliens and The Smurfs and — since each of the new indie films had a budget of $1 million tops — a lot less costly.

Here are the Sunday estimates of this weekend's top-grossing pictures in North American theaters, as reported by Box Office Mojo:

1. Cowboys & Aliens, $36.2 million, first weekend, tied with
1. The Smurfs, $36.2 million, first weekend
3. Captain America: The First Avenger, $24.9 million; $116.8 million, second week
4. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2, $21.9 million; $318.5 million, third week
5. Crazy Stupid Love, $19.3 million, first weekend
6. Friends with Benefits, $9.3 million; $38.2 million, second week
7. Horrible Bosses, $7.1 million; $96.2 million, fourth week
8. Transformers: Dark of the Moon, $6 million; $337.9 million, fifth week
9. Zookeeper, $4.2 million; $68.7 million, fourth week
10. Cars 2, $2.3 million; $182.1 million, sixth week

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... 82,00.html

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Blowfeld wrote:C&A took 1st place althou under expectations and the Smurfs were doing better than anyone predicted I think the writer hit on a important point Daniel is not a movie star.
The other three of those four points make me sad.
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So long as number 1 makes you happy!
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oscartheman wrote:You mean the sequel to Dances With Smurfs. :lol:
If cregg was in it it would be called pouts with smurfs.
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bjmdds wrote:So long as number 1 makes you happy!
It doesn't, really. It's just a statement of the bleeding obvious.
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Ford lets his rage out on the Smurfs :lol:
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Craig is not a "Movie Star" even if he were the biggest name in Hollywood CvA would still bomb.
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Movie stars don't really exist anymore unless your name is Will Smith. That's why Hollywood in recent years have been focusing more on remakes, superhero films and other franchises because they are much more easy to sell now. Movie stars being the main draw is a thing of the past.
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I do not think Craig has the draw the RDJ has in the US, in the UK maybe Craig has a upper hand. I think CvA would work as a comedy which is what it sounds. like
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I think there are still a few Stars who can sell a movie just by being in it. Clint Eastwood, Johnny Depp, Will Smith. I even know a lot of ladies who'll watch any onld crap so long as george clooney's in it. :D
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Thunderpussy wrote:I think there are still a few Stars who can sell a movie just by being in it. Clint Eastwood, Johnny Depp, Will Smith. I even know a lot of ladies who'll watch any onld crap so long as george clooney's in it. :D
Yes, I think Depp is entering the Will Smith league in being able to open a movie. I've heard rumours that they are having trouble casting the Lone Ranger in the forthcoming new version (sorry, "the forthcoming reboot of the franchise" :evil: ) with Johnny as Tonto, because nobody wants to be labelled as the new Orlando Bloom.
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Daniel Craig is not on the same level as Johny Depp and Will Smith. Not when it comes to his non-Bond films anyways. I think there needs to be a recount(this is becoming the showbiz equivalent of the hanging chad controversy a few years ago. :P )
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