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Kristatos wrote:It's not just critics, though. Twitter is full of people who, for some reason, seem desperate to see a gay superhero. I can see why a gay teenager might want to see a positive role model depicted on the screen, but a lot of this Cap/Bucky shipping seems to be just bandwagon-jumping. It's the fashionable thing to say, just as "Craig is Flemming's Bond anyone who says different just wants invisible cars and double-taking pigeons" was the fashionable thing to say 10 years ago.
This was the X-Men's bread and butter. Just about everyone in any oppressed group across the spectrum felt something in the series spoke to their situation. The sentinels represent the fill in the blank oppressing fill in the blank based on some arbitrary condition. Every awkward teenager could find something to self-identify with.

Not sure how true this was there was supposedly a survey of Doctor Who fans/readers of the 1990's Virgin book series the results were the loyal readers were more 'conservative' in their political persuasions and the writers were more 'liberal'. Meaning what exactly I'm not sure, except the writers were probably sure they were writing for their own, people who agree with their philosophies. Yet those bigoted whatevers freely bought and supported writers they would not be joining at the political rallies, I doubt the 'enlightened' writers would have as freely done the same. Only matters to me in the sense of expectations, how we expect people to behave and why we have those expectations, even a writer not being willing to support those they disagree with politically. Forget about the survey trying identifying the politics in my opinion the truth was when it's concerns something people are passionate about the normal labels people would associate like enlightened, bigots, are unimportant because why groups of people come together are unique and personal.

At some point in human evolution we developed a self-awareness of our social standing and wanted to be the right side the correct group of thought. Probably crept out of several thousands of years of staunch religious dogma, meaning those who believed the correct set of beliefs were rewarded socially by those in power. As the modern world came to be this process sped up, instead of every generation changing it flows much faster with social narrative being driven by popular culture. Current writers writing about James Bond, Sherlock, whatever popular character update the sensibilities of the character to match the current age even if there is no way the author intend it, in my opinion this is to insulate themselves form any backlash by rubber stamping the original authors intent.
I have seen too many period dramas updated to reflect current social tolerances, instead of accurately reflecting the attitudes of the time and social realities. Even Foyle's War was guilty of this.
A better example is a generic WWII drama where the main character will be the one tolerant German helping the Jews because it's what current popular culture understands to be the right attitude to the situation instead of the reality. Sure there were people who did do what is today considered to be the right however it was under the oppression of their lives being in the threatened by those with power. To me it cheapens the real history to taint it with popular culture.

Sulu being modeled after George Takei instead of Gene Roddenberry's character is a fine example of characters being altered to suit current political and social tolerances to gain credibility with those in the right circles.
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I am DONE with ST for good now :!: I will enjoy the PRIOR films and am looking forward to the November Potter-esque film as are FBF and others here.
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What about this, BJ? Would you watch this?

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPzqKBs5CZ0[/video]

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It looks like a crazy ride of a film FBF with some tasty ladies to boot :!: I watched 15 minutes of No Escape last night on cable tv before I had to shut it off. What a horrible and depressing and sick plot. :down: Hopefully your above film with Pierce is not as dark.
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bjmdds wrote:It looks like a crazy ride of a film FBF with some tasty ladies to boot :!: I watched 15 minutes of No Escape last night on cable tv before I had to shut it off. What a horrible and depressing and sick plot. :down: Hopefully your above film with Pierce is not as dark.
I actually prefer No Escape over November Man. Urge is darker than that, but I'll let you be the the judge of that. And not as dark? I hope you're not saying he should do the likes of I Don't Know How She Does It again or some other lighthearted films he did recently. Darker roles is where he belongs.
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No Escape had a sick plot.
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We need more Mike Graham movies.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:We need more Mike Graham movies.
Pierce is too good for that. More November Man film is what we need.
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The brand-new Star Trek will introduce new characters seeking imaginative new worlds and new civilizations, while exploring the dramatic contemporary themes that have been a signature of the franchise since its inception in 1966.
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I wonder how this fare.
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Will you watch it FBF?
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bjmdds wrote:Will you watch it FBF?
You already know.
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Ralph Fiennes spoke on how Daniel Craig changed his opinion on who portrayed the definitive James Bond. “I always thought Sean Connery was the definitive Bond. Now I’m not so sure. I think Daniel is totally inside Bond. I think he’s made it his own. I feel there’s interior stuff in Daniel’s Bond, there’s an inner life. Interior tension that I’m not sure I’ve seen any of the other Bonds.” The Harry Potter star also went on to defend comments made by Daniel Craig in the past where the James Bond actor said that he would rather slash his wrists than play Bond again. Fiennes confirmed that the role does indeed take a very heavy toll on Craig. Image
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Sure, Craig is the best at "inner" Bond, sounds like a man struggling to find a excuse to complement him. Who knows maybe Craig leaving leaves him as former M, if Mr Craig is.
Speaking of I saw a news story somewhere that had some click bait about "new 007 female?", didn't click on it because it was a video not written. Thought another news site would have it but nothing.
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bjmdds wrote:Ralph Fiennes spoke on how Daniel Craig changed his opinion on who portrayed the definitive James Bond. “I always thought Sean Connery was the definitive Bond. Now I’m not so sure. I think Daniel is totally inside Bond. I think he’s made it his own. I feel there’s interior stuff in Daniel’s Bond, there’s an inner life. Interior tension that I’m not sure I’ve seen any of the other Bonds.” The Harry Potter star also went on to defend comments made by Daniel Craig in the past where the James Bond actor said that he would rather slash his wrists than play Bond again. Fiennes confirmed that the role does indeed take a very heavy toll on Craig. Image

It's nice to see EON's PR Dept. still has a little petty cash laying about. Seriously this comment is a master class on how to talk a lot without actually saying anything.
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bjmdds wrote:The Harry Potter star also went on to defend comments made by Daniel Craig in the past where the James Bond actor said that he would rather slash his wrists than play Bond again.
Comments made by Daniel Craig in the past? As opposed to comments made by Daniel Craig in the future? It wasn't that long ago he said that stuff - though I can see why some people wish it was. :wink:
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You said it Sulfuric. Fiennes looks like a moronic shill now for EON.
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Craig can't act like bond doesn't look like bond but if your one of the chosen you can see that inside where Craig is not acting he's really the best :roll:

It's the whole argument that his expressionless, emotionless, bond is like a blank canvas his fans interpret what they want to see


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"Inside Bond". "Bond's feelings and emotions". Cassical argument pro Craig. They can't really say:"I think he is the best because he has charm and suaveness,more than any other Bond." Because he doesn't and everybody knows that,even Barbara.
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If it is shilling for EON, do you think that means they're still trying to drag Craig back for some more films?
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