The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Omega]

Far as Brosnan he said he wanted to make that sequel just in the last year it might be a bigger hit I doubt that movie will ever get made anyway.

Thomas Crown 2 is NOT going anywhere, but if made today, it will NOT be his comeback but rather a suicide. Think Son of the Mask and Basic Instinct 2 for example.

but he's not going to have a role bigger than the bond franchise gave him.

Maybe not. But look at Sir Patrick Stewart. Thanks to X-Men, the general public now sees him past his Star Trek image.

Doing action movies and having a more varied career is the best thing for him.

I hope his upcoming actioners will be better than GE which has held its throne for TOO long already according to Glorious England (who hasn't been here for a long time).

At least say your sorry to bj. That's the right thing

I hope he accepts my apology. I just really want nothing but best for Pierce's career especially since his Bond career didn't give him justice due to that fact that GE was his only classic Bond to the majority.[/quote] maybe but what bothers me is how you talked to bj. Not way to talk to the guy who always has your 6. even if you think he is wrong . Anyway he was probably trying to throw you a bone in the debate.

Where is that movie with Brosnan as the French king and the captured mermaid ?


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[Omega]

Ok I don't know what happen with my last post . It didn't look like that when I hit send.

Whatever happened it's fine .
If BJ is cool with it do am I.


As long as Brosnan keeps making movies he is doing well . He made a good movie after bond (NM)I enjoy so it's s win in my book


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[FormerBondFan]

As long as Brosnan keeps making movies he is doing well .

That's just half of the equation. The other half is making great movies (especially actioners) that appeal to the wider audience.

You mentioned The Moon and the Sun. It has been removed from its release date of April 10, 2015. I hope it will be enough to make great one for the general public.

He made a good movie after bond (NM)I enjoy so it's s win in my book

But not to the wider audience.

[Omega]

Maybe kingsman might tap him for a sequel


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[Omega]

Btw I really like NM. It had bad luck when it was released . And if it had been a 2008 2010 movie it might has wowed the critics . But look at liam neesons movies most don't get great reviews but they do give his fans what they want


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[Kristatos]

As long as Brosnan keeps making movies he is doing well .

That's just half of the equation. The other half is making great movies (especially actioners) that appeal to the wider audience.

The "wider audience" made Skyfall the highest-grossing Bond movie of all time, with glowing reviews and Oscar nominations. Screw 'em.

[FormerBondFan]

Btw I really like NM. It had bad luck when it was released . And if it had been a 2008 2010 movie it might has wowed the critics . But look at liam neesons movies most don't get great reviews but they do give his fans what they want


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But Liam's recent films (especially Taken) are higher than most of Pierce's.

[FormerBondFan]

As long as Brosnan keeps making movies he is doing well .

That's just half of the equation. The other half is making great movies (especially actioners) that appeal to the wider audience.

The "wider audience" made Skyfall the highest-grossing Bond movie of all time, with glowing reviews and Oscar nominations. Screw 'em.

But I'm not talking about Skyfall. I'm talking about GE giving its title to any of Pierce's upcoming films (especially in the action realm) to be his best actioner (or even best film) in the minds of the public. Like Glorious England said, his debut Bond film has sat on that throne for too long already. Sooner or later, Pierce's going to need a new film (an actioner in particular) that will earn its title as his best to the majority. Maybe he doesn't need this, but he totally deserves it.

[Omega]

But if the critics are so far off base why worry about what they think at all .

Brosnan has a good record as bond I think as the Craig craziness calms down he'll get more recognition


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[Veronica]

But if the critics are so far off base why worry about what they think at all .

Brosnan has a good record as bond I think as the Craig craziness calms down he'll get more recognition


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I always thought that the fact that he is currently in the role gave him more votes. Many people who are teenagers and there's even a chance that they never watched any other Bond run into and then just give vote for Craig. He is backed up with the good PR and praise of Skyfall... in one recent poll in my country he came third while Connery was first and Brosnan a close second.

[The Sweeney]

Glad to see FBF apologies to BJ. That was totally uncalled for.

With regards Brosnan's career outside of Bond, I really liked Thomas Crown, and The Ghost Writer (which I thought Brozza was superb in).
The problem facing all Hollywood actors these days is the money isn't there any more for films. Budgets are far higher now for TV drama, which is where all the A list actors are turning to.

Unless you are appearing in the next Super Hero or Hobbit flick, or another popular franchise, or a decent director (Nolan/Fincher) movie, then there isn't much available for what's left over, other than the types of flicks that Brosnan is appearing in.

At least he is still getting work.

[Veronica]

FBF you need to calm down. The Topkapi Affair wouldn't be a suicide.. anyway the movie is not going to be made most probably. There's been years since "The Thomas Crown Affair"... also about "The Ghost Writer"-Pierce had a supporting role and was in a movie for like 2 minutes and yet he was the one who got awards... we'll see how Survivor goes. It looks like a movie that could attract general public.

[FormerBondFan]

Budgets are far higher now for TV drama, which is where all the A list actors are turning to.

Pierce did Bags of Bones 4 years ago, and that didn't turn out well due to poor reviews.

Unless you are appearing in the next Super Hero or Hobbit flick, or another popular franchise, or a decent director (Nolan/Fincher) movie, then there isn't much available for what's left over, other than the types of flicks that Brosnan is appearing in.

Speaking of superheroes films, what role would be suitable for Pierce? Adding further to comic book adaptations, Kris and Omega suggested sequels to Kingsman as perfect places for him.

As for another popular franchise, I hope Sly adds Pierce into the next EX film. I know the critics hate EX films, but like I said, I can see the series following the route of Fast & Furious where critics and the the public warmed up by the fifth film.

As for a decent director for Pierce, QT wanted to do CR with him, but that didn't happen. Hey, there's always the alternative, right? That being said, why hasn't QT cast Pierce in his own projects already?

At least he is still getting work.

Same with Tim. Unlike Pierce, his roles are a little more mainstream (Hot Fuzz, Dr. Who, Toy Story, Penny Dreadful, etc.), and the works he appeared in (for the most part) got excellent reviews and recognition.

[FormerBondFan]

The Topkapi Affair wouldn't be a suicide.. anyway the movie is not going to be made most probably. There's been years since "The Thomas Crown Affair"...

Pierce can do MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better than Thomas Crown 2. Whoever said that the sequel to the 16 year old remake will resurrect his career doesn't have a brain. Like Sweeney said, only superhero/comic book films, an establish franchise or a decent director like Chris Nolan would boost his career.

we'll see how Survivor goes. It looks like a movie that could attract general public.

I hope you're right. GE can't all the glory to itself as far as Pierce's work are concerned.

[Kristatos]

As long as Brosnan keeps making movies he is doing well .

That's just half of the equation. The other half is making great movies (especially actioners) that appeal to the wider audience.

The "wider audience" made Skyfall the highest-grossing Bond movie of all time, with glowing reviews and Oscar nominations. Screw 'em.

But I'm not talking about Skyfall. I'm talking about GE giving its title to any of Pierce's upcoming films (especially in the action realm) to be his best actioner (or even best film) in the minds of the public. Like Glorious England said, his debut Bond film has sat on that throne for too long already. Sooner or later, Pierce's going to need a new film (an actioner in particular) that will earn its title as his best to the majority. Maybe he doesn't need this, but he totally deserves it.

It sounds like you need it more than Pierce does. He seems to care more about whether he's happy with the work he's doing than being the new Liam Neeson or whatever, whereas you are utterly obsessed with knocking Goldeneye off its perch, for some reason.

[Veronica]

I actually see a bigger problem in the fact that his Bond movies never reached their full potential. Well GoldenEye did and TND is good because of the production problems we could've ended up with QOS before QOS. TWINE has the unbelieveably unbelieveable nuclear scientist and the incredibly wrong ending which doesn't suite the movie at all. The biggest problem of course is DAD and the fact that Pierce never got to do CR with Tarantino like it was planned(thanks a lot Babs). That's what bugs me more. James Bond is something that everyone know. Even Connery who got an Oscar is first and foremost known as Bond. James Bond overshadows everything else and since Brosnan has only one classic Bond...although I'm glad that people aknowledge how both TND and TWINE are underrated. On abj007 when there was a discussion what are top 5 most underrated Bond movies almost every wrote either TND or TWINE or both.

[FormerBondFan]

As long as Brosnan keeps making movies he is doing well .

That's just half of the equation. The other half is making great movies (especially actioners) that appeal to the wider audience.

The "wider audience" made Skyfall the highest-grossing Bond movie of all time, with glowing reviews and Oscar nominations. Screw 'em.

But I'm not talking about Skyfall. I'm talking about GE giving its title to any of Pierce's upcoming films (especially in the action realm) to be his best actioner (or even best film) in the minds of the public. Like Glorious England said, his debut Bond film has sat on that throne for too long already. Sooner or later, Pierce's going to need a new film (an actioner in particular) that will earn its title as his best to the majority. Maybe he doesn't need this, but he totally deserves it.

It sounds like you need it more than Pierce does. He seems to care more about whether he's happy with the work he's doing than being the new Liam Neeson or whatever, whereas you are utterly obsessed with knocking Goldeneye off its perch, for some reason.

Pierce is just Pierce, not the new Liam Neeson.

The thing is that we didn't get the 5th Bond from Pierce, and his Bonds never reached his full potential like he wanted. But he still has his career where he can still prosper from. What matters most is that he gets his new beginning and third career (first and second being Steele and Bond respectively). I mean....he just needs a really great movie (an actioner in particular) since GE. Again he may not need it, but he deserves it. Two reasons. One is what I just said already......him not getting his 5th Bond which could have his best Bond (or even his best of his career). Two is to prove he's not limited to just Bond to the public especially when GE is the his only classic Bond.

[Kristatos]

Two is to prove he's not limited to just Bond to the public especially when GE is the his only classic Bond.

But he's already proven that, several times over. He's had critical successes like The Ghost Writer. He's had commercial successes like Mamma Mia. Nobody *just* thinks of him as "that guy who used to be James Bond" any more.
(Edited to remove somewhat intemperate comments).

[FormerBondFan]

But he's already proven that, several times over.

Still he's not getting enough credit than he really is.

He's had critical successes like The Ghost Writer.

Again, it's not getting enough recognition. No nominations from the BAFTAs, Golden Globes or especially the Oscars.

He's had commercial successes like Mamma Mia.

That may be, but his singing backfired.

Nobody *just* thinks of him as "that guy who used to be James Bond" any more.
(Edited to remove somewhat intemperate comments).

Maybe to the certain people but the general audience still do.

You might want to read this:

http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/20 ... nd/379240/

[Veronica]

This all might be true...but seriously I don't see it so darkly the way you do. Yes it would terrific for Pierce to have one big blockbuster or a movie with terrific reviews. The thing that actually I have more problems with is his James Bond career. DAD was the last movie he made and that's just wrong on every level. TWINE could for my money be called one of the best Bond movies ever IF they didn't throw the incredibly ridiculous nuclear scientist in a movie that had ambition to be more character driven one. Essentially it was but the ending gives you the feeling you watched one of Roger Moore instalments not the movie where Bond killed the woman he came close to.Christmas Jones as a whole gives you that feeling. The ending is like from entirely other movie. TND faced great problems with production and all so I think the movie is good as it is coz we could've ended up with QOS before QOS(shivers).