The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Napoleon Solo]

Skyfall parody script:

http://www.the-editing-room.com/skyfall.html

[bjmdds]

MI:5: notice the black outfit once again: The upcoming "Mission: Impossible 5" will be bringing back multiple actors from the cast of "Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol" - including Tom Cruise, Jeremy Renner, Simon Pegg and Ving Rhames - but fans have taken notice that there is one key name misting from that core ensemble: Paula Patton. Despite the fact that the last movie hinted at her return for the follow-up, it turns out she won't be in the sequel. Why? It turns out that scheduling is to blame............"Mission Impossible 5" is officially ready to blast its way to the big screen. Director Christopher McQuarrie has announced through Twitter that the production for the film, after major stumbling blocks along the way, is ready to dazzle and amaze. "That's a wrap," the director tweeted. "1000 thanks to our incredible cast and crew. You truly achieved the impossible." The launch of the much-awaited flick was held off previously. Ethan Hunt's death-defying and heart-stopping missions were supposed to be shown on the silver screen in December last year. Several weeks ago, reports sprung up saying that the movie had to redo its ending because it was allegedly deemed "unsatisfactory" and was too unfitting to go for. The rumors further claimed that the ending was changed from top to bottom and that a new writer, an unnamed and an unpaid one, had to step in and save the movie and the whole franchise. While it is true that the filming of the latest of the action spy film series did not go as planned, McQuarrie denied the speculations. In a 30-minute Q&A he held on Twitter, the director clarified the reshooting issue and said that all they did was to prep up the movie. During the occasion, he also revealed that a trailer for "Mission Impossible 5" is already on the horizon. However, he did not mention a specific date as to when it will actually be brought out.

[Blowfeld]

Skyfall parody script:

http://www.the-editing-room.com/skyfall.html

Only half through it. What a blast! RALPH FIENNES

Not so fast! To test your MENTAL readiness to truly be James Bond again, I'm going to do some word association with you. Ready? Here we go.

(pause)

Gold...

DANIEL CRAIG

Fish.

RALPH FIENNES

Thunder...

DANIEL CRAIG

Cats.

RALPH FIENNES

(muttering)

Not a good start...

(aloud)

Octo...

DANIEL CRAIG

Mom.

RALPH FIENNES

(growing impatient)

Licence to...

DANIEL CRAIG

Drive.

RALPH FIENES

(exasperated)

Oh for God's sake, SKY...

DANIEL CRAIG

Net?

RALPH FIENNES

FALL! f**king FALL!! SKY-FALL!!

DANIEL CRAIG

(pause)

That's not even a word.

[bjmdds]

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... WM915QsOyI[/video] This will demolish SP-ECH-TRE at the box office.

[Veronica]

I have to say,it is astonishing how every pro-Craig comment is the absolute same.Craig is though(seriously??Bond is not a boxer).Bond is a upper-class man who went to Cambridge made a naval commander.He doesn't look like a Rambo for crying loud.He has a gun for crying out loud.He does everything with style.He is suave and sophisticated,can seduce a woman and dispatch an enemy with an equal ease.He also is someone who does everything for his country(For England,James? "Oh the things we do for England) he does not act wounded and angry boy just because his boss needed to do the necessary thing.
If I don't think during the movie at least once "every man wants to be him,every woman wants to be with him" than that's not Bond.Don't get me started with that "he looks like a killer" comment.this is Bond not Steven Seagal movie.Terence Young himself said how "how Bond needs to be sophisticated.He can smile at you at dinner and in the next moment stick you with a steak knife.If he isn't charming than he is just another killer". this just explains it all.Bond does have a killer instict he just hids it under his "boyish charms" to quote M.Bond is charismatic,sophisticated,suave,confident secret agent.When he introduces himself as "Bond.James Bond." that is the peak of how cool he is and every woman should swoon.Craig absolutely has none of these qualities.
And I don't even want to comment the bashing of other actors.Brosnan is often called pretty boy(oh,now it's a flaw to be good-looking )with limited acting abilities(right,and Daniel "one-facial-expression" is peak of acting abilities )He may be Daniel but he is no Day Lewis...and there it goes with Moore and how he was too comical.Seriously,he was entertaining at the very least.Seriously,one day I might just think how these comments are written by one person because they are all the same.

P.S.I know this is not the theme at the moment here but I just needed to get this out of myself.

[Napoleon Solo]

At the risk of making a generalization, the "blunt instrument" comment attributed to Fleming becomes the justification for everything.

If you make a comment to the effect that, "With Casino Royale they could have made Bond a gentlemen who learned how to behave like a thug when necessary or they could make Bond a thug who learned to be a gentlemen later and they went with the latter idea," you'll get lots of criticism.

WHAT? (re; comments about the latter). "Bond was never a thug!" Yet, in Casino, we're told he never had a tailor-made tux (presumably if he had one before it was bought off the rack). "You're wrong! Just wrong!"

Some enthusiasts of the "blunt instrument" idea mistake that for dull instrument.

[Blowfeld]

At the risk of making a generalization, the "blunt instrument" comment attributed to Fleming becomes the justification for everything.

If you make a comment to the effect that, "With Casino Royale they could have made Bond a gentlemen who learned how to behave like a thug when necessary or they could make Bond a thug who learned to be a gentlemen later and they went with the latter idea," you'll get lots of criticism.

WHAT? (re; comments about the latter). "Bond was never a thug!" Yet, in Casino, we're told he never had a tailor-made tux (presumably if he had one before it was bought off the rack). "You're wrong! Just wrong!"

Some enthusiasts of the "blunt instrument" idea mistake that for dull instrument.

Ian was initially upset with the casting of Sean for being rough. Obviously to his mind 007 was more cultured than crude. However I think his meaning is lost to the generations, we had the arguments when Casino Royale was new blunt instrument was not as you said a dull instrument. The same phrase was used to describe Pierce's 007 in Die Another Day, I didn't it was used to particularly good effect there either.
I think Ian intended to separate Bond from other officers of his time who could not have pulled the trigger or preformed filed work.

Hoagy Carmichael being a Daniel Craig look alike argument also confused me. I think the name gave today's generation a mental image which did not match up with how the man actually appeared. And why would they have a mental image of a musician who had not been in the public consciousness since the 1950s . Of course that is my opinion that tainted by bias on what I think Hoagy looks like. To be fair Ian kept changing his reference for what 007 Looked like, You Only Live Twice he resembled Ian's first choice for 007, David Niven (or was it supposed to be Roger Moore as his first choice?).

[Veronica]

Ian's comment "blunt instrument" wasn't meant in a physical rambo way.Bond is more of a blunt instrument mentally.He is mentally "blunt".It's actually ironic how they justify everything with this yet say how Craig has an edge yet the definition of "blunt" is NOT being sharp or having an edge.."blunt instrument" is Bond's ability to kill when he needs to.He needs to be emotionless when he needs to do it.Completely blank when it comes to emotions."Blunt instrument" was meant in that context.My conclusion is how Craig fans are 12-year old fanboys who DON'T know the definition of blunt.And I got really suspicious when I read multiple times how "Craig is closest to Flemming's Bond.".. yeah,they totally read the books so obviously know what Fleming's Bond is like.

[The Saint 007]

And I don't even want to comment the bashing of other actors.Brosnan is often called pretty boy(oh,now it's a flaw to be good-looking )with limited acting abilities(right,and Daniel "one-facial-expression" is peak of acting abilities )He may be Daniel but he is no Day Lewis...and there it goes with Moore and how he was too comical.Seriously,he was entertaining at the very least.Seriously,one day I might just think how these comments are written by one person because they are all the same.

Hey, they have to do something while they wait for the next installment of Days Of Our Bond.

But in all seriousness, the way some people bash Moore on the forums, you would think he's still the current Bond actor. It's been thirty years since his retirement from the role, and people continue to complain about the same old subjects to the point of nausea. Even as a Moore fan, I can still understand why some may not care for his style, but I think it's about time to get over it and move on.

With Brosnan being Craig's predecessor, there will naturally be a comparison war between the two. It's similar to the Connery versus Moore debates years ago. However, the Brosnan bashing on certain forums can get quite out of control, and it's also getting rather tiresome.

[Veronica]

And I don't even want to comment the bashing of other actors.Brosnan is often called pretty boy(oh,now it's a flaw to be good-looking )with limited acting abilities(right,and Daniel "one-facial-expression" is peak of acting abilities )He may be Daniel but he is no Day Lewis...and there it goes with Moore and how he was too comical.Seriously,he was entertaining at the very least.Seriously,one day I might just think how these comments are written by one person because they are all the same.

Hey, they have to do something while they wait for the next installment of Days Of Our Bond.

But in all seriousness, the way some people bash Moore on the forums, you would think he's still the current Bond actor. It's been thirty years since his retirement from the role, and people continue to complain about the same old subjects to the point of nausea. Even as a Moore fan, I can still understand why some may not care for his style, but I think it's about time to get over it and move on.

With Brosnan being Craig's predecessor, there will naturally be a comparison war between the two. It's similar to the Connery versus Moore debates years ago. However, the Brosnan bashing on certain forums can get quite out of control, and it's also getting rather tiresome.

They overlook what great things both of these actors did.Moore was actually accepted (more or less) as Bond which is a big thing considering how world in 1969 didn't want to hear any other actor than Connery playing the role.Brosnan did even more.With GoldenEye it was either everything or nothing after the big fiasco and the pause of 6 years.He delivered big time.Seriously,if there was no Brosnan Bond would be "no more"(although he is that with Craig) but still.People were asking if Bond would still work after the Cold War and HE DID!He was still incredibly charismatic and sophisticated,looking effortlessly cool.Dashing but deadly.He was better than ever(IMO).The world craved for Brosnan as Bond.I think that is exactly one of the reasons why Dalton failed,or wasn't accepted.People went to watch GoldenEye because the man who people already saw as Bond finally became one.Every one of his movies were huge success at the boy office.This is exactly the reason why he should have gotten at least one more movie!What's even worse they told how they are very happy with him and then just like that...
About Moore,yeah he may have been campy and all and not convincing as a spy but he himself never took the role seriously.This is what he said:“To me, the Bond situations are so ridiculous, so outrageous. I mean, this man is supposed to be a spy and yet, everybody knows he’s a spy. Every bartender in the world offers him martinis that are shaken, not stirred. What kind of serious spy is recognized everywhere he goes? It’s outrageous. So you have to treat the humor outrageously as well. My personality is entirely different than previous Bonds. I’m not that cold-blooded killer type. Which is why I play it mostly for laughs.’

And if you look at it this way he was "perfectly satisfactory" to quote Bond from Goldfinger.ANd plus,he was Bond in 70's when flower power and "make love,not war" was the thing.And he seems like such a nice man and he is so humorous and loveable that it's hard not to like him as man if not as Bond.

P.S. I think why Craigers bash Brosnan so much is because,well,he is the biggest obsticle to call Craig best aside Connery.I mean Lazenby is completely irrelevant and Dalton is generally the most unpopular aside Lazenby.They can say how Moore wasn't convincing as spy they whose left?That's right,the man who was seen seen as Bond before he even got the role.But by judging all this I have to say how Craig fans are boys not older than 12.

[The Sweeney]

Ian's comment "blunt instrument" wasn't meant in a physical rambo way.Bond is more of a blunt instrument mentally.He is mentally "blunt".It's actually ironic how they justify everything with this yet say how Craig has an edge yet the definition of "blunt" is NOT being sharp or having an edge.."blunt instrument" is Bond's ability to kill when he needs to.He needs to be emotionless when he needs to do it.Completely blank when it comes to emotions."Blunt instrument" was meant in that context.My conclusion is how Craig fans are 12-year old fanboys who DON'T know the definition of blunt.And I got really suspicious when I read multiple times how "Craig is closest to Flemming's Bond.".. yeah,they totally read the books so obviously know what Fleming's Bond is like.

I have read all the Fleming books countless times, and prefer them to the films. I'm also a fan of Craig as Bond, although I do concede to the fact that he looks more thug than suave, and I still prefer Bond to have dark hair, swept to the side like Connery, Lazenby, Brosnan and Dalton.

With regards Craig looking more like a killer, well this does tie in more with Fleming's Bond. In FRWL, when the General of SMERSH is studying a photo of Bond, he thinks Bond looks a `nasty looking customer.'

When Viv Michel sets eyes on Bond for the very first time in TSWLM, she immediately thinks he is another villain from her initial impression.

There are also several mentions of Bond looking handsome, but in a cruel way, but also Fleming concedes that Bond could pass for a Hollywood film star, so there are a few contradictions in Fleming's description of Bond.

As for me being 12 years old, I wish I still was.....

[ml94]

Craig is PUTIN, nothing else.

[Omega]

Insurgent is top of the box office this week. $54 million
$57 million was the prediction . I will go see it but didn't know it was out this weekend.
I want the series to succeed at the very least be made. Divergent was a well made movie with a decent story I didn't like how it was panned by the critics . It's one of those movies that delivers what we expect it to.


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[Veronica]

Ian's comment "blunt instrument" wasn't meant in a physical rambo way.Bond is more of a blunt instrument mentally.He is mentally "blunt".It's actually ironic how they justify everything with this yet say how Craig has an edge yet the definition of "blunt" is NOT being sharp or having an edge.."blunt instrument" is Bond's ability to kill when he needs to.He needs to be emotionless when he needs to do it.Completely blank when it comes to emotions."Blunt instrument" was meant in that context.My conclusion is how Craig fans are 12-year old fanboys who DON'T know the definition of blunt.And I got really suspicious when I read multiple times how "Craig is closest to Flemming's Bond.".. yeah,they totally read the books so obviously know what Fleming's Bond is like.

I have read all the Fleming books countless times, and prefer them to the films. I'm also a fan of Craig as Bond, although I do concede to the fact that he looks more thug than suave, and I still prefer Bond to have dark hair, swept to the side like Connery, Lazenby, Brosnan and Dalton.

With regards Craig looking more like a killer, well this does tie in more with Fleming's Bond. In FRWL, when the General of SMERSH is studying a photo of Bond, he thinks Bond looks a `nasty looking customer.'

When Viv Michel sets eyes on Bond for the very first time in TSWLM, she immediately thinks he is another villain from her initial impression.

There are also several mentions of Bond looking handsome, but in a cruel way, but also Fleming concedes that Bond could pass for a Hollywood film star, so there are a few contradictions in Fleming's description of Bond.

As for me being 12 years old, I wish I still was.....

Well,of course not every one of Craig fans are 12 year olds it's just seems to me that way when I read those immature and idiotic comments.People can look let's say dangerous or have that "don't mess around" look without being completely classless and looking like a thug.For example that actor in Catwoman,the bad guy the owner of that company always looked totally nasty,at least to me and he has complete class.Btw,he is going to appear in a movie "5 to 7" where the female star is Berenice Marlohe,girl from Skyfall.

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

That actor from Catwoman was a French actor called Lambert Wilson, who screen tested for Bond in 1986/7.




Anyone seen the new Mission Impossibe: Rogue Nation teaser....?

[BBvideo 425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9UbBU-4mSI&app=desktop[/BBvideo]

[Veronica]

That actor from Catwom was a French actor called Lambert Wilson, who screen tested for Bond in 1986/7.



Oh,yeah,that guy.He looks totally baddie to me but he still has class and some charisma.I have to say he is like the best thing about that movie with Halle.


Anyone seen the new Mission Impossibe: Rogue Nation teaser....?

[BBvideo 425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9UbBU-4mSI&app=desktop[/BBvideo]

[ml94]

That actor from Catwom was a French actor called Lambert Wilson, who screen tested for Bond in 1986/7.




Anyone seen the new Mission Impossibe: Rogue Nation teaser....?

[BBvideo 425,350]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9UbBU-4mSI&app=desktop[/BBvideo]

Better choice than craig.

[Veronica]

Anyone's a better choice than Craig.But maybe he looks too much of a bad boy to be Bond.I think he would made a good villian.But then villian would be far better looking than Bond if we are talking about Craig ..hey what about Billy Zane as Bond?I know he's American but in theory of speech...

[Veronica]

Craig is PUTIN, nothing else.

He actually looks quite a lot like Selma Hayek's husband.

[ml94]

Anyone's a better choice than Craig.But maybe he looks too much of a bad boy to be Bond.I think he would made a good villian.But then villian would be far better looking than Bond if we are talking about Craig ..hey what about Billy Zane as Bond?I know he's American but in theory of speech...

Like you said "anyone is better choice than craig"...