The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Kristatos]

Poor Sean. How could a person be expected to live on just half a million 1965 dollars?

[Omega]

I sort of get why he felt that way bond was one of the biggest movie hits of the 1960s and he was the same pay he was getting paid for a movie that didn't make money.

mazer had a list of how much the bonds made Connery Brosnan and Craig were at the top of the list . Connery got a lot more than i thought also he kept suing for more


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[Kristatos]

I sort of get why he felt that way bond was one of the biggest movie hits of the 1960s and he was the same pay he was getting paid for a movie that didn't make money.

I know, it doesn't seem very fair. I wish I had his problems, though!

[Omega]

I sort of get why he felt that way bond was one of the biggest movie hits of the 1960s and he was the same pay he was getting paid for a movie that didn't make money.

I know, it doesn't seem very fair. I wish I had his problems, though!

you and me both!
One thing about bond movies is there is a history of greed from the producers and studios involved . Some of the first product placements in a movie were because of their greed, the partnership broke up because of money then the movie stopped being made for 6 years because money.
Imo Connery is a little bit greedy but on the other hand he made bond into bond mania and had to put up with all the crazies for nothing compared to the real money makers. They are still making money off his image 50 years later


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[Veronica]

I sort of get why he felt that way bond was one of the biggest movie hits of the 1960s and he was the same pay he was getting paid for a movie that didn't make money.

I know, it doesn't seem very fair. I wish I had his problems, though!

you and me both!
One thing about bond movies is there is a history of greed from the producers and studios involved . Some of the first product placements in a movie were because of their greed, the partnership broke up because of money then the movie stopped being made for 6 years because money.
Imo Connery is a little bit greedy but on the other hand he made bond into bond mania and had to put up with all the crazies for nothing compared to the real money makers. They are still making money off his image 50 years later

I very much agree that Barbara Broccoli is still making money because these Craig movie have James Bond in the title.And everyone go watch James Bond because of the image we all have.To quote Valentin Zukowski "James Bond,charming,sophisticated,secret agent.Shaken but not stirred." That's the image Connery first embodied.James Bond is a man every guy wants to be and every woman wants be with.Craig is not that man.I especially laugh at those "Craig is more realistic comments".If you wanna watch movies that show what more real life like spies are then go watch "Tinker Tailor Solgier Spy" or something like that.A movie that has any spy doing "Home Alone" stuff and that doesn't kill the target and has a gun isn't a portrait of "realistic" spy.

[bjmdds]

The name is Sigman, Stephanie Sigman. Although she may not have the name recognition of a certain secret agent, the 28-year-old Mexican actress certainly saw her profile raised Tuesday, when the filmmakers behind the upcoming James Bond adventure "Spectre" announced her addition to the cast.

[bjmdds]

The cars in Spectre speed round the West side of Vatican city which houses the famous church, St Peter's Basilica. There was no sign of Daniel Craig with the silver Aston Martin DB10, instead it was driven by a stunt driver who roared around the cobbled roads on the Via Panispern. Daniel Craig and Monica Bellucci on set of Spectre in Rome last month.

[Dr. No]

Is it just me or do his sneakers seem to have a lot of heel?

[Dr. No]

I very much agree that Barbara Broccoli is still making money because these Craig movie have James Bond in the title.And everyone go watch James Bond because of the image we all have.To quote Valentin Zukowski "James Bond,charming,sophisticated,secret agent.Shaken but not stirred." That's the image Connery first embodied.James Bond is a man every guy wants to be and every woman wants be with.Craig is not that man.I especially laugh at those "Craig is more realistic comments".If you wanna watch movies that show what more real life like spies are then go watch "Tinker Tailor Solgier Spy" or something like that.A movie that has any spy doing "Home Alone" stuff and that doesn't kill the target and has a gun isn't a portrait of "realistic" spy.

You reminded me of how every few years when a Bond film comes out there would be stories from people in the CIA, MI6, wherever saying Bond is nothing like the work we do. Bond is nothing like the real world spying. Which is what they have said since the books were published really. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy was written to counter balance the world of Bond mostly because of the impression the movies left us with.


I thought it was ironic when CR was coming out it was praised for being realistic which is something Bond never was, in the books or movies. I do believe Fleming had added real world experiences to the stories but he was not writing historical books. I like his book because they are escapism they were back then and they are today by transporting us to a strange, fascinating, unfamiliar world. Giving us a look a the WWII early cold war spy world run by old gentleman spy masters with titles and lordships from WWI.

[bjmdds]

Judge Judy's reaction to Cr-egg being in the Bond role:

[Veronica]

I very much agree that Barbara Broccoli is still making money because these Craig movie have James Bond in the title.And everyone go watch James Bond because of the image we all have.To quote Valentin Zukowski "James Bond,charming,sophisticated,secret agent.Shaken but not stirred." That's the image Connery first embodied.James Bond is a man every guy wants to be and every woman wants be with.Craig is not that man.I especially laugh at those "Craig is more realistic comments".If you wanna watch movies that show what more real life like spies are then go watch "Tinker Tailor Solgier Spy" or something like that.A movie that has any spy doing "Home Alone" stuff and that doesn't kill the target and has a gun isn't a portrait of "realistic" spy.

You reminded me of how every few years when a Bond film comes out there would be stories from people in the CIA, MI6, wherever saying Bond is nothing like the work we do. Bond is nothing like the real world spying. Which is what they have said since the books were published really. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy was written to counter balance the world of Bond mostly because of the impression the movies left us with.


I thought it was ironic when CR was coming out it was praised for being realistic which is something Bond never was, in the books or movies. I do believe Fleming had added real world experiences to the stories but he was not writing historical books. I like his book because they are escapism they were back then and they are today by transporting us to a strange, fascinating, unfamiliar world. Giving us a look a the WWII early cold war spy world run by old gentleman spy masters with titles and lordships from WWI.

Exactly.I mean,do real life spies talk with the enemy,light a cigar and then talk about enemy's plan? or say something like "I apologise..." oh,come on.This is a movie.Movies are made to be an escapism.Of course that real life spies don't come across a pilot with an absurd name and then hook up and change their sexuality.But this is Bond.He can do anything.Of course they are not kissing a girl if they were in a danger 5 minutes earlier.They don't hook up with a girl UNDER THE WATER. Of course there are no absurd people with metal teeth.There are no space things that eat other space things.Both books and movies in general are made to be an escapism and to be more interesting than real world.As far as CR being realistic.It's SO realistic that you can just normally walk after you nearly died out of poison... And the most unrealistic moment(aside the corniest love story ever)-the moment a beautiful woman like Solange(played by Caterina Murino) fells for Craig.

[Dr. No]

I very much agree that Barbara Broccoli is still making money because these Craig movie have James Bond in the title.And everyone go watch James Bond because of the image we all have.To quote Valentin Zukowski "James Bond,charming,sophisticated,secret agent.Shaken but not stirred." That's the image Connery first embodied.James Bond is a man every guy wants to be and every woman wants be with.Craig is not that man.I especially laugh at those "Craig is more realistic comments".If you wanna watch movies that show what more real life like spies are then go watch "Tinker Tailor Solgier Spy" or something like that.A movie that has any spy doing "Home Alone" stuff and that doesn't kill the target and has a gun isn't a portrait of "realistic" spy.

You reminded me of how every few years when a Bond film comes out there would be stories from people in the CIA, MI6, wherever saying Bond is nothing like the work we do. Bond is nothing like the real world spying. Which is what they have said since the books were published really. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy was written to counter balance the world of Bond mostly because of the impression the movies left us with.


I thought it was ironic when CR was coming out it was praised for being realistic which is something Bond never was, in the books or movies. I do believe Fleming had added real world experiences to the stories but he was not writing historical books. I like his book because they are escapism they were back then and they are today by transporting us to a strange, fascinating, unfamiliar world. Giving us a look a the WWII early cold war spy world run by old gentleman spy masters with titles and lordships from WWI.

Exactly.I mean,do real life spies talk with the enemy,light a cigar and then talk about enemy's plan? or say something like "I apologise..." oh,come on.This is a movie.Movies are made to be an escapism.Of course that real life spies don't come across a pilot with an absurd name and then hook up and change their sexuality.But this is Bond.He can do anything.Of course they are not kissing a girl if they were in a danger 5 minutes earlier.They don't hook up with a girl UNDER THE WATER. Of course there are no absurd people with metal teeth.There are no space things that eat other space things.Both books and movies in general are made to be an escapism and to be more interesting than real world.As far as CR being realistic.It's SO realistic that you can just normally walk after you nearly died out of poison... And the most unrealistic moment(aside the corniest love story ever)-the moment a beautiful woman like Solange(played by Caterina Murino) fells for Craig.

I didn't mean to imply CR was realistic it wasn't, Mrs. No and I found it depressing at best. IMHO it is ironic CR was supposed to realistic because that was never a criteria for Bond. All they managed to do was take the fun out of it some call that realistic for whatever reason

I always felt Caterina Murino was a better casting choice for Pierce Brosnan's Bond.

[Veronica]

I very much agree that Barbara Broccoli is still making money because these Craig movie have James Bond in the title.And everyone go watch James Bond because of the image we all have.To quote Valentin Zukowski "James Bond,charming,sophisticated,secret agent.Shaken but not stirred." That's the image Connery first embodied.James Bond is a man every guy wants to be and every woman wants be with.Craig is not that man.I especially laugh at those "Craig is more realistic comments".If you wanna watch movies that show what more real life like spies are then go watch "Tinker Tailor Solgier Spy" or something like that.A movie that has any spy doing "Home Alone" stuff and that doesn't kill the target and has a gun isn't a portrait of "realistic" spy.

You reminded me of how every few years when a Bond film comes out there would be stories from people in the CIA, MI6, wherever saying Bond is nothing like the work we do. Bond is nothing like the real world spying. Which is what they have said since the books were published really. Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy was written to counter balance the world of Bond mostly because of the impression the movies left us with.


I thought it was ironic when CR was coming out it was praised for being realistic which is something Bond never was, in the books or movies. I do believe Fleming had added real world experiences to the stories but he was not writing historical books. I like his book because they are escapism they were back then and they are today by transporting us to a strange, fascinating, unfamiliar world. Giving us a look a the WWII early cold war spy world run by old gentleman spy masters with titles and lordships from WWI.

Exactly.I mean,do real life spies talk with the enemy,light a cigar and then talk about enemy's plan? or say something like "I apologise..." oh,come on.This is a movie.Movies are made to be an escapism.Of course that real life spies don't come across a pilot with an absurd name and then hook up and change their sexuality.But this is Bond.He can do anything.Of course they are not kissing a girl if they were in a danger 5 minutes earlier.They don't hook up with a girl UNDER THE WATER. Of course there are no absurd people with metal teeth.There are no space things that eat other space things.Both books and movies in general are made to be an escapism and to be more interesting than real world.As far as CR being realistic.It's SO realistic that you can just normally walk after you nearly died out of poison... And the most unrealistic moment(aside the corniest love story ever)-the moment a beautiful woman like Solange(played by Caterina Murino) fells for Craig.

I didn't mean to imply CR was realistic it wasn't, Mrs. No and I found it depressing at best. IMHO it is ironic CR was supposed to realistic because that was never a criteria for Bond. All they managed to do was take the fun out of it some call that realistic for whatever reason

I always felt Caterina Murino was a better casting choice for Pierce Brosnan's Bond.

I know you didn't imply it.I'm just thinking about people who actually are writing stuff like that.I found CR to be boring at best.Bond was never really realistic.It seems to me that these Craig fans don't really know what realistic mean.It means that something COULD totally happen IRL.And there were always scenes where you just thought "Only James Bond could to that." But that was precisely one of the things that draw you to it.The best example is when Bond in the middle of the run in GoldenEye fixes his tie.No one would ever do that IRL,we wouldn't know our names.But Bond does it.And that's just one fof the things that are completely Bond like.Also:"
I am going to ruin all my karmas by defending Die Another Day because of one scene that is the purest essence of Bond in the whole series. Bond escapes the medical boat and arrives at the posh yacht club, he is dirty, dripping wet, bearded like an extra from a redneck reality show, and everyone else is staring at him like he is a bum, but he walks like he's James f**king Bond. Watch just that scene and you will see exactly who Bond is; without the gun, gadgets, or girls, he's still a guy that would walk like his dick is solid gold. It makes the movie. It makes the series actually. If you had only one scene to show someone to make them understand who Bond is, that is it. Even as the plot gets more and more ridiculous that one scene was needed in the series, showing the audience that no matter what, Bond walks into a room like he owns it, because he's James Bond." someone wrote this somewhere and it's completely true.

[Veronica]

And,yes Caterina Murino would be great with Pierce since they are both tremendously good-looking.

[Omega]

I agree about the dad hotel check in.


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[Kristatos]

Anyone see the Comic Relief skit? I missed it, though I'm sure it will turn up on YouTube or iPlayer.

[Veronica]

Anyone see the Comic Relief skit? I missed it, though I'm sure it will turn up on YouTube or iPlayer.

I think it's already on YouTube

[bjmdds]

It's not on yet.

[shaken not stirred]

I saw the skit, it was awful, I hate to say it but I respect Craig for doing it for charity and only that but on the other hand this making fun of bond would be funny if all his films already haven't done that already (in the worse sense) , so instead of looking at it and go hah hah that's funny I'm left thinking er...hah ah nooo.

[Kristatos]

Here's a poor-quality copy that someone recorded off the TV with a camcorder. It took a very long time to get to a pretty lame punchline.

https://youtu.be/DQUd2BnS8pM