The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[The Sweeney]

I'm agreeing with you twice in one day BJ....
I too don't think Cooper would be a good choice for Bond. His face is too small and feminine, and as Kris correctly observed `ferrety'.....

He was gravely miscast as Fleming, and would be gravely miscast as Bond.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... oW0RiNTbGI[/video] Unreal. You and I agreeing on TWO Bond issues Worlds are colliding Where are you located these days by the way? Do you still post on MI6 at all? It will be -20 BELOW ZERO here in NYC Sunday night with the wind chill

Still in the UK, BJ. Yes, I ocassionally go on MI6, but not much these days. Hope you have your winter woollies ready in NY. That is cold!!

[The Sweeney]

I'm agreeing with you twice in one day BJ....
I too don't think Cooper would be a good choice for Bond. His face is too small and feminine, and as Kris correctly observed `ferrety'.....

He was gravely miscast as Fleming, and would be gravely miscast as Bond.

Twice in a day?! LOL Something is going on.

The bold expresses my thoughts on Cooper's face perfectly. I do agree he would be gravely miscast as Bond. He has none of the characteristics Bond has. Tall, dark, handsome, blue eyes, masculine jaw, and that "I could kill you now" look. None are there. I saw the Fleming miniseries, as they broadcast it here on satellite, and I was wondering "did they do it on purpose to make Fleming unattractive? To show how Bond was the opposite of him?". I never had a chance to discuss with you guys, but I'm glad you, Sweeney, feel he was very miscast for that part. I didn't even give it much thought, I thought that for whatever reason the producers of the series didn't want the man to be attractive in order to show a "contrast" with Bond. I didn't like the choice but because I hadn't read much around about it, I didn't know others felt the same way. So I'm glad it wasn't just me.

I'm still not sure why he was cast as Fleming, because he looks absolutely nothing like the man.

Is it your birthday today Ale? In that case, you share your birthday with my Mother (an easy date to remember)!!

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

Cooper would have a hard time making people believe he could defeat Q in a fight, let alone Mr. Hinx in SPECTRE. Cavill looks like he could squash Cooper with one hand. I do NOT see Cooper even in the running for consideration of the Bond role.

I too don't think Cooper would be a good choice for Bond. His face is too small and feminine, and as Kris correctly observed `ferrety'.....

What's funny, is that those apply to Cavill, imo. I am praying that his rabid worshippers will make of his Superman and U.N.C.L.E films a hit, to keep him away from Bond. He might fit into the Bond template, but there is a lot of room left over. As I said previously, Cavill lacks that certain edge, imo.

[The Sweeney]

Cooper would have a hard time making people believe he could defeat Q in a fight, let alone Mr. Hinx in SPECTRE. Cavill looks like he could squash Cooper with one hand. I do NOT see Cooper even in the running for consideration of the Bond role.

I too don't think Cooper would be a good choice for Bond. His face is too small and feminine, and as Kris correctly observed `ferrety'.....

What's funny, is that those apply to Cavill, imo. I am praying that his rabid worshippers will make of his Superman and U.N.C.L.E films a hit, to keep him away from Bond. He might fit into the Bond template, but there is a lot of room left over. As I said previously, Cavill lacks that certain edge, imo.

I don't know how you can say Cavill lacks edge, and yet in the same breath think Cooper doesn't lack edge. That photo of his on your signature, he looks like a schoolboy wearing his Dad's grown-up clothes.

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

Quite easily, actually, i'm just calling it as I see it. Cavill looks like he is trying to hard to be James Bond, via Napolean Solo. Especially in that pic with the gun.

Why is an U.N.C.L.E film needed, anyway? There are 4 series of the show, with a handful of feature length episodes packaged as films, and a reunion movie. Didn't The Avengers and The Wild Wild West teach Hollywood anything.

[The Sweeney]

Quite easily, actually, i'm just calling it as I see it. Cavill looks like he is trying to hard to be James Bond, via Napolean Solo. Especially in that pic with the gun.

Why is an U.N.C.L.E film needed, anyway? There are 4 series of the show, with a handful of feature length episodes packaged as films, and a reunion movie. Didn't The Avengers and The Wild Wild West teach Hollywood anything.

Not sure. I'm really getting tired of these super hero films and 60's TV spin-offs, which is what Hollywood is obsessed with these days.

AS for Cavill trying to look like Bond in that photo, I guess that was the intention from whoever took the photo. The similarities and parallels are going to be called up constantly for Cavill now in this role, as he is really fitting the image of what people expect Bond to look like. If you see the adverts of the 007 aftershave, its the image of someone like Cavill that springs to mind, rather than Craig.

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

AS for Cavill trying to look like Bond in that photo, I guess that was the intention from whoever took the photo. The similarities and parallels are going to be called up constantly for Cavill now in this role, as he is really fitting the image of what people expect Bond to look like. If you see the adverts of the 007 aftershave, its the image of someone like Cavill that springs to mind, rather than Craig.

Well, that is the traditional generic Bond image, so that I can agree with.

[Atticus]

I've watched the Eon puff piece twice. First off, that French actress is lousy. I don't find her attractive at all, not just in terms of looks but in charisma. She makes Tanya Roberts ooze with screen presence. But this is one of the legacies of the Craig era, namely bland women, and by bland I mean they're not the exotic babes we used to have in a Bond film. But that's expected with a Bond who looks like he's 75. At least somebody in casting has enough sense to realize that an exotic Bond girl-type like a Carole Bouquet or a Claudine Auger wouldn't fall for Craig's Bond. It wouldn't have an ounce of reality, and anybody who thinks otherwise is delusional.

And, wow, don't we have a powerful box-office star in that Bautista dude or whatever his name is? A day after the UNCLE trailer draws massive attention, Eon presents this Bautista guy near the start of their promo piece. Yeah, this nobody is sure to captivate the public. But it doesn't get more ludicrous until we see images of Craig. My problem with him is that his Bond has always looked gay. He's like a gay masseuse, and that black ski outfit he's wearing looks like Pussy Galore's catsuit. It won't surprise me if he has a gay scene with Christophe Waltz or that new gay Q. It's obvious Sam Mendes is just craving to present a full out gay love scene, especially after touching upon it in that Bardem/Craig homo-erotic scene in Shitefall.

[Napoleon Solo]

re: The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

There have been attempts to revive U.N.C.L.E. going back to the 1970s. This page details some of the efforts. It also includes summaries of scripts written for the series but never filmed:

https://uncleepisodeguide.wordpress.com ... n-c-l-e-s/


There are more connections to Bond than you might think, including Ian Fleming and Richard Maibuam. This page has been updated to include the U.N.C.L.E. movie (Cavill and one of the helicopters from Goldfinger appearing in the film).

https://uncleepisodeguide.wordpress.com ... ames-bond/


All part of The Man From U.N.C.L.E. episode guide.

https://uncleepisodeguide.wordpress.com/

[Atticus]

Dominic Cooper would be a useless Bond. With his big eyes, he looks like a lemur and his small stature is too apparent, which makes him look non-threatening. This slight person as Bond would not be believable in a fight scene with the likes of Oddjob or some big henchman. The guy has zero edge. Every time I see him, I'm actually reminded of a pizza delivery kid. Why he was cast as Fleming is another idiotic mystery in this universe. He obviously looks nothing like Fleming. That biopic itself was bland and didn't do justice to the Fleming lore.

[Atticus]

Thing is, marketing and advertising are not included in "film budget", not usually anyway. That's an extra and separate voice. What I mean is that those 300 mln were about mere production, which is why the MGM dude suggested to cut down the costs with sensible measures like using two train wagons instead of three and shooting a sequence in studio instead of wasting two nights around Rome since it's at night and at a villa, so the environment can be re-created. The money for advertising is ON TOP of the production costs... and your point remains absolutely valid about the unnecessary spending on it, as in it being over the top.

Thanks for clarifying, and happy birthday, young lady.

So we're now looking at $300 million (prod. cost) + $250 million for marketing (my conservative estimate on what it takes to sell Craig as Bond). This leads us to at least $550 million total cost. But then this doesn't even take into account Craig's army of plastic surgeons, makeup artists, and skin/facial consultants to ensure he looks (what's that term I hear from young people these days?)... oh yeah, "metrosexual."

With Pascal out of the picture, there's probably all sorts of chaos behind the scenes, a lot of yelling and fuming anger between the remaining big wigs and Barbara Broccoli. Who knows, maybe that's why she wasn't even in that puff piece. She was too busy defending herself.

[bjmdds]

Cooper would have a hard time making people believe he could defeat Q in a fight, let alone Mr. Hinx in SPECTRE. Cavill looks like he could squash Cooper with one hand. I do NOT see Cooper even in the running for consideration of the Bond role.

I too don't think Cooper would be a good choice for Bond. His face is too small and feminine, and as Kris correctly observed `ferrety'.....

What's funny, is that those apply to Cavill, imo. I am praying that his rabid worshippers will make of his Superman and U.N.C.L.E films a hit, to keep him away from Bond. He might fit into the Bond template, but there is a lot of room left over. As I said previously, Cavill lacks that certain edge, imo.

I don't know how you can say Cavill lacks edge, and yet in the same breath think Cooper doesn't lack edge. That photo of his on your signature, he looks like a schoolboy wearing his Dad's grown-up clothes.

I agree with you now Sweeney Cooper looks childish in that outfit and he looks like Moneypenny could beat him up as well. He has NO chance at being Bond. Zero.

[The Sweeney]

Dominic Cooper would be a useless Bond. With his big eyes, he looks like a lemur and his small stature is too apparent, which makes him look non-threatening. This slight person as Bond would not be believable in a fight scene with the likes of Oddjob or some big henchman. The guy has zero edge. Every time I see him, I'm actually reminded of a pizza delivery kid. Why he was cast as Fleming is another idiotic mystery in this universe. He obviously looks nothing like Fleming. That biopic itself was bland and didn't do justice to the Fleming lore.

Agree totally. Cooper was totally miscast as Fleming, and yes he looks like a schoolboy or pizza delivery kid. Charles Dance probably looked the closest to Fleming in the film he appeared in, and I always thought Geoffrey Rush would play a good Fleming (mainly because of the striking physical similarities.)

[bjmdds]

I've watched the Eon puff piece twice. First off, that French actress is lousy. I don't find her attractive at all, not just in terms of looks but in charisma. She makes Tanya Roberts ooze with screen presence. But this is one of the legacies of the Craig era, namely bland women, and by bland I mean they're not the exotic babes we used to have in a Bond film. But that's expected with a Bond who looks like he's 75. At least somebody in casting has enough sense to realize that an exotic Bond girl-type like a Carole Bouquet or a Claudine Auger wouldn't fall for Craig's Bond. It wouldn't have an ounce of reality, and anybody who thinks otherwise is delusional.

And, wow, don't we have a powerful box-office star in that Bautista dude or whatever his name is? A day after the UNCLE trailer draws massive attention, Eon presents this Bautista guy near the start of their promo piece. Yeah, this nobody is sure to captivate the public. But it doesn't get more ludicrous until we see images of Craig. My problem with him is that his Bond has always looked gay. He's like a gay masseuse, and that black ski outfit he's wearing looks like Pussy Galore's catsuit. It won't surprise me if he has a gay scene with Christophe Waltz or that new gay Q. It's obvious Sam Mendes is just craving to present a full out gay love scene, especially after touching upon it in that Bardem/Craig homo-erotic scene in Shitefall.

Agree 100% with you Atticus. Mendes and Cr-egg are chomping at the bit to explore Bond's bi-sexality, in their moronic eyes. Once that occurs, the franchise can rot in hell, for there is NO way I want to see Cavill romancing men if he becomes the next Bond.

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

I've never said that Cooper was accurate to Fleming. I thought Ben Daniels was closer in 'Bondmaker' back in 2005. What I have been saying, is that in FTMWWBB, Cooper displayed all the qualities I want in a Bond. I have other suggestions like Richard Armitidge and James D'Arcy, but Cooper is my favoured choice.

[bjmdds]

This guy D'arcy as Bond? He fits more of the Norman Bates role in Psycho, ala Anthony Perkins.

[bjmdds]

This guy Armitage as Bond? I don't see it either. You do have eclectic tastes IMO Toothpaste for Bond, but as Dalton said in Road House, "opinions vary", and that's the truth.

[Napoleon Solo]

Also, here's a new section of the episode guide just added. A timeline for development of The Man From UNCLE movie.

https://uncleepisodeguide.wordpress.com ... -l-e-2015/

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

Pulling pics off Google is too easy.







You all what that guy ^ as Bond? See how easy that was.

[Count_Lippe]