The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Omega]

Fellas, from what I see now, Craig is the least of our problems. Just wait and see to read the Sony-leaked messages released not too long ago that contain godawful elements, and make Sk-Awful actually look like an average good film. Can you imagine that?

Spoilers Ahead: 1-MI6 is still underground.
2-Blofeld is present.
3-All these events since the 2006 reboot are linked to each other, done to "hurt" Bond especially on purpose, and the man responsible for this is Franz Oberhauser, the son of Hans Oberhauser from Bond's childhood, who had to prefer Bond as his "son" over his actual one (Franz), so that the former grows up in disgust and decides to ruin Bond's life like hell.
4-Q (or is he?) is in the field, gets kidnapped from his dancing class. (Not sure if this was false but it doesn't come across as sarcastic in the notes. Lol!)
5-M fakes his death, pulls off a Nick Fury Jr act from Captain America 2.
6-Monica Bellucci plays a Lesbian baddie, a la Klebb, Pussy Galore, etc.
7-A new character yet to be announced called Charlotte, a CIA agent, hunts down Bond as he's marked as a "security threat". (again!)
8-MI6 is attacked! (again!)
9-Tanner turns out to be a traitor, commits suicide.

I am starting to suspect that these leaks are a deliberate red herring designed to throw us off the scent. But that may be wishful thinking on my part. If #9 is true, it's a slap in the face to Ian Fleming on a par with the treatment of Rene Mathis in QOS. But 95% of those squeeing about how Craig is Flemming's Bond will neither know nor care.

9 & 3 are bad. 3 is stupid, 5 is dumb. Done too many times to be interesting.

[The Saint 007]

How long do we have to suffer with the man below as "Bond"? Forever? I blame the general public.

I'm not so sure. I see way more negative stuff on Craig on the net these days (other than here) compared to the pre-Skyfall days, so maybe people are waking up and seeing Craig is actually bloody awful as Bond.

Yes, recently there's been more people who are not as leery to speak out against Craig and this new direction to Bond. But if his Bond films continue to make loads of money, it's not really going to matter what some people on the forums are saying.

I've noticed a lot more critical comments about Craig. From how he was dressed to how old he looks at the SP announcement.

Just recently, I've been seeing some discussions about how the Bond films should get back to a traditional adventure/mission instead of the more personal plots we've been getting the last few times. All of Craig's Bond films so far have had endings which give you the impression that the next film will be a more traditional Bond, only to get another emotional drama.

There may be more complaints now, but when it comes right down to it, the almighty dollar still speaks louder than words. Changes will only be made when people stop paying to see these films.

[bjmdds]

The stupidity of all of Cr-egg's Bond films has come full circle now. So supposedly Spectre was created by a spoiled brat, who was offended by his daddy making nice to a younger boy named James Bond instead of him, and he set up a criminal organization as his life's work to get his revenge on his father's favorite? Are they kidding? What morons will fall for this? Ernst Stavro Blofeld must be a name contrived in a similar fashion to Tom Marvolo Riddle in Harry Potter.

[dirtybenny]

Yes BJMDDS we have come full circle, Austin Powers "killed" Bond by causing EON to strip away "Bond" from Bond, now EON is ripping off Powers with the Blofeld/Dr. Evil is my "brother" angle.

This absolute trash has got me feeling a rant coming on! John P. Drake with you permission I would like to use your list of spoilers as a template.

[Alessandra]

The stupidity of all of Cr-egg's Bond films has come full circle now. So supposedly Spectre was created by a spoiled brat, who was offended by his daddy making nice to a younger boy named James Bond instead of him, and he set up a criminal organization as his life's work to get his revenge on his father's favorite? Are they kidding? What morons will fall for this? Ernst Stavro Blofeld must be a name contrived in a similar fashion to Tom Marvolo Riddle in Harry Potter.

Just so we're clear because I've read comments above... these are NOT red herrings. These are actual LEAKS like all the other leaks from Sony's hacked emails. It's not stuff they EVER expected to be hacked or exposed at all. It's the truth, not a setup.
The whole Monica Bellucci plot just makes me

I told you we'd get Bond stuff because it was clear it was coming, given all the rest that was being leaked by the hackers. And sure enough...

[Alessandra]

Interesting statements to highlight from Solo's link: Barbara Broccoli, the producer (and heiress to the Bond empire), fights back -- saying that she "cannot find the cemetery or villa in the UK" and refuses to cut down the number of trains. Later, Sony Pictures co-chairman Amy Pascal, looped in on all of this, sends a note directly to MGM's president, saying: "It's insane and you know with no script this movie is gonna go overbudget.".............."There's a "lesbian bad lady." And yes, we will meet Ernst Stavro Blofeld, the evil genius behind the creepy, secret transnational organization SPECTRE.".............Sam Mendes wants to cast Andrew Scott as Bond's intelligence agency boss, "C."..........since Eon is so devoid of originality and now is adding on "letters" to new branches with Q and C, I say F-U to this whole project and cannot wait until the day Broccoli departs from this franchise for good, if MGM and Sony could find a way to buy her and the mute half brother out

LOL... I just... No seriously. This is hilarious to me at this point. How Amy Pascal is being exposed as an amateur and Barbara Broccoli much more so. Only ones with some sense are the people at MGM. Not surprisingly, given they seriously don't want to risk going back to bad times after having emerged from bankruptcy and managed to make it back to decent annual revenue.

[shaken not stirred]

Interesting statements to highlight from Solo's link: Barbara Broccoli, the producer (and heiress to the Bond empire), fights back -- saying that she "cannot find the cemetery or villa in the UK" and refuses to cut down the number of trains. Later, Sony Pictures co-chairman Amy Pascal, looped in on all of this, sends a note directly to MGM's president, saying: "It's insane and you know with no script this movie is gonna go overbudget.".............."There's a "lesbian bad lady." And yes, we will meet Ernst Stavro Blofeld, the evil genius behind the creepy, secret transnational organization SPECTRE.".............Sam Mendes wants to cast Andrew Scott as Bond's intelligence agency boss, "C."..........since Eon is so devoid of originality and now is adding on "letters" to new branches with Q and C, I say F-U to this whole project and cannot wait until the day Broccoli departs from this franchise for good, if MGM and Sony could find a way to buy her and the mute half brother out

LOL... I just... No seriously. This is hilarious to me at this point. How Amy Pascal is being exposed as an amateur and Barbara Broccoli much more so. Only ones with some sense are the people at MGM. Not surprisingly, given they seriously don't want to risk going back to bad times after having emerged from bankruptcy and managed to make it back to decent annual revenue.

This is all sounding a lot like austin powers by the minute, doc evil grew up hating austin because his dad favored him (but doc evil didn't know his dad too well, still they were brothers and though james isn't a brother to blofelt, the similarities are now sadly there), with all the stuff some complained about in later bond films with Brosnan they never did this and the serious too moody boring bond films today have, great job eon and they have the nerve to say austin powers made bond a joke.

[Alessandra]

The good side of this is that both Amy Pascal and Barbara Broccoli have been exposed as incompetent IDIOTS who will refuse to do very easy things to reduce a RIDICULOUS budget. I don't have to you know, substantiate my dislike for Amy Pascal anymore. She exposed herself as a complete fool thanks to the hackers.
Question for those who posted the list: where did you get it originally? And I'm not asking to mind your own business, but because I am trying to get to the SOURCE of the goddamn leaks and can't find evidence for it. AS in, do people go and download stuff themselves? LOL

[English Agent]

Reading today's news about Bond 24 was quite alarming............particularly about the films budget spiralling out of control.

They reckon the shoot alone would cost $50 mil more than Skyfall........and the studio is desperately trying to find ways of cutting things back.

More worrying was the fact that the script was less then complete!...............if all this is true, it just goes to show that the studio and the producers havnt learnt their lessons from the QOS disaster.

It appears to me that the studio loses all control of the franchise, after they have a Bond film that is successful, by then letting it all getting into their heads, by their excesses with the next Bond film!

[Omega]

You're right except bonds weren't out of gas or on not making money when they went reboot.

[Omega]

Reading today's news about Bond 24 was quite alarming............particularly about the films budget spiralling out of control.

They reckon the shoot alone would cost $50 mil more than Skyfall........and the studio is desperately trying to find ways of cutting things back.

More worrying was the fact that the script was less then complete!...............if all this is true, it just goes to show that the studio and the producers havnt learnt their lessons from the QOS disaster.

It appears to me that the studio loses all control of the franchise, after they have a Bond film that is successful, by then letting it all getting into their heads, by their excesses with the next Bond film!

Hi EA!

I don't get the budget being as big as it is.
Sure Craig is making a big payday but not enough to jack up the costs like this.

The Sony leaks are eye opening and most of it is being scribed by their friends in the media.

[Alessandra]

Reading today's news about Bond 24 was quite alarming............particularly about the films budget spiralling out of control.

They reckon the shoot alone would cost $50 mil more than Skyfall........and the studio is desperately trying to find ways of cutting things back.

More worrying was the fact that the script was less then complete!...............if all this is true, it just goes to show that the studio and the producers havnt learnt their lessons from the QOS disaster.

It appears to me that the studio loses all control of the franchise, after they have a Bond film that is successful, by then letting it all getting into their heads, by their excesses with the next Bond film!

Hi there!
Well like Omega said, they never needed a reboot in the first place.
And all of this stuff is exposing their absolute and total incompetence.

Please note: MGM tells them exactly WhAT TO DO, simple things that can EASILY be done, to save money. And SPOILED RICH BRAT Barbara Broccoli refuses to do so. Backed by Pascal who also informs us that the script isn't complete at the time when they're already filming? FREAKING SERIOUSLY?????

LOL.

By all means... show everyone who you are, Pascal and Broccoli. Finally no one will be able to justify their incompetence. Only MGM people are using their heads here. It's alarming and quite eye-opening at the same time.

[English Agent]

Figures being touted today, were that Bond 24 could end up costing $350 mil ..........thats a staggering amount of money for a film, and would put it at the top expense wise, with James Camerons CGI laden 'Avatar'.

I remember QOS which had a budget circa $230 mil in 2008, was rated as the most expensive film ever, in relation to its budget/ film running time ratio......then to become virtually unwatchable due to some staggering incompetence in the directing and editing depts!..................now that shouldnt happen to Bond 24......but?

Anyway.......its good to be back, and i notice that some of the members who werent posting here when i was here a year ago are now back.........and 'Omega' i did have, lets say an interesting trip to China in 2013.

[bjmdds]

This embarrassment might just be the impetus to remove Pascal's influence from the Bond decisions and maybe, just maybe, MGM can coerce Broccoli to sell her stake, IF MGM wants to spend big bucks to buy her out. At this rate, the release date could be pushed back if any further problems arise unless the editors complete their work a week before it's intended UK release in a half-assed manner.

[bjmdds]

The good side of this is that both Amy Pascal and Barbara Broccoli have been exposed as incompetent IDIOTS who will refuse to do very easy things to reduce a RIDICULOUS budget. I don't have to you know, substantiate my dislike for Amy Pascal anymore. She exposed herself as a complete fool thanks to the hackers.
Question for those who posted the list: where did you get it originally? And I'm not asking to mind your own business, but because I am trying to get to the SOURCE of the goddamn leaks and can't find evidence for it. AS in, do people go and download stuff themselves? LOL

It took hackers to prove our collective points for the last 9 years, of this garbage since Cr-egg was announced as Bond wearing his life preserver on the boat in 2005. Redemption, and not via Shawshank By the way, I can picture your face when you are forced to witness the lesbian scenes of Monica Bellucci as Lucia Sciarra doing her stuff in this epic failure of a Bond film. [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... 8rsK6XnSPU[/video]

[English Agent]

Question.......does Amy Pascal have a history of having serious negative effects on other films from the studio?

[bjmdds]

Yes BJMDDS we have come full circle, Austin Powers "killed" Bond by causing EON to strip away "Bond" from Bond, now EON is ripping off Powers with the Blofeld/Dr. Evil is my "brother" angle.

This absolute trash has got me feeling a rant coming on! John P. Drake with you permission I would like to use your list of spoilers as a template.

Go get 'em Benny, and the dirtier the better

[Alessandra]

Question.......does Amy Pascal have a history of having serious negative effects on other films from the studio?

Well... if you read the hacked emails, there isn't much doubt on that. LOL

[Kiwichris]

Surely #9 is a fake. They might as well make Bond the traitor and join Spectre, oh wait, that already happened in Role of Honour! Maybe the day has finally come that EON have just simply run out of ideas

[John P. Drake]

Yes BJMDDS we have come full circle, Austin Powers "killed" Bond by causing EON to strip away "Bond" from Bond, now EON is ripping off Powers with the Blofeld/Dr. Evil is my "brother" angle.

This absolute trash has got me feeling a rant coming on! John P. Drake with you permission I would like to use your list of spoilers as a template.

Be my guest, laddie. I'd be pleased to read it.