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bjmdds wrote:
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bjmdds wrote:(FBF, Pierce has a gold mine here with sequels galore long past Cr-egg exits the Bond role. Your dream has become a reality. It took 11 years, but NOW we have it :!: ) :cheers:
Our dream, BJ. Our dream, not just mine.
Do you anticipate a stronger box office in the USA or overseas for this film?
Pierce said NM has potential to become a franchise, and this will depend on how well it does. From the looks of it and from what I read, it won't let us down. The cast and crew are having a great time doing it, and Olga enjoys working with Pierce. As far as box office is concerned, I say $150 - $200 million in the US and $450 - $475 million worldwide if it has a US distributor. The NM book series is unknown to the public. Back in the '50s and early '60s, Fleming's Bond novels weren't popular in the US until DN went into theaters, and plus, FRWL being one of JFK's favorite popularize the books even further.

TOO LONG has GE held its title as Pierce's best actioner (or even best film in general), and now is the time to pass the throne to NM. Speaking of GE, many people see it as his best Bond. I considered DAD as my personal favorite. Sooner or later, it will have to get bested by NM to become my favorite Pierce movie in general, not just an actioner starring him, and the same can be said with Drakester's personal favorite TND.
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Maybe Adele can sing the title to November Man? Or maybe an up tempo Secret Agent Man type song by a male?
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kater23 wrote:Made cranberry relish, am also going to make artichoke hummus(our appetizer tomorrow). I am making brown sugar and butter butternut squash for dinner tomorrow(but that's easy enough that I don't necessarily need to do it ahead.Plus we're short on space in my parents' fridge right now otherwise I'd do that too. :lol: )
We had the same problem last night our refrigerator was full a few dishes we didn't have room to precook. :mrgreen: Surprisingly not a lot of left overs :lol:

Do we have any doorbuster shoppers already out buying? I'd rather the stores who are closed stay closed the whole day forcing evening sales when some families are eating feels wrong to somehow.
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Pierce looks like he lost weight for the role.

Hope the movie does well.
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John P. Drake wrote:Sure, Felix was murdered
No he wasn't. Felix was maimed, not murdered.
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Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:
John P. Drake wrote:Sure, Felix was murdered
No he wasn't. Felix was maimed, not murdered.
I know. He was nearly killed after all. It's still called a murder.
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John P. Drake wrote:
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John P. Drake wrote:Sure, Felix was murdered
No he wasn't. Felix was maimed, not murdered.
I know. He was nearly killed after all. It's still called a murder.
Not when he's still alive it's not. Attempted murder, but not actual murder.
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Daltonite Toothpaste wrote:
John P. Drake wrote:
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John P. Drake wrote:Sure, Felix was murdered
No he wasn't. Felix was maimed, not murdered.
I know. He was nearly killed after all. It's still called a murder.
Not when he's still alive it's not. Attempted murder, but not actual murder.
Then I should have said 'nearly murdered'.
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Dr. No wrote:
kater23 wrote:Made cranberry relish, am also going to make artichoke hummus(our appetizer tomorrow). I am making brown sugar and butter butternut squash for dinner tomorrow(but that's easy enough that I don't necessarily need to do it ahead.Plus we're short on space in my parents' fridge right now otherwise I'd do that too. :lol: )
We had the same problem last night our refrigerator was full a few dishes we didn't have room to precook. :mrgreen: Surprisingly not a lot of left overs :lol:

Do we have any doorbuster shoppers already out buying? I'd rather the stores who are closed stay closed the whole day forcing evening sales when some families are eating feels wrong to somehow.
We sent a lot of leftovers home with my brother and his wife so the fridge isn't as full as it could be.The butternut squash(which I added cinnamon to) was a HUGE hit.

I'm writing this at a Barnes & Noble,which was crowded when I got here but isn't so bad now.
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bjamesobrad wrote:

Pierce looks like he lost weight for the role.

Hope the movie does well.
It has to do well and destroy GE in every department in a Brock Lesnar mode. And yeah, he does look fit unlike Fat Seagal.

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http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/artic ... 68x286.jpg I doubt Pierce got this chummy with Broccoli.
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I wonder if NM will also be inspired by the Bourne movies?

I love the real Bourne, while the Craig flicks were rubbish.

I also think Bourne Legacy with Jeremy Renner was good (much better than Bond), although not quite as good as the Matt Damon films.

They're going to do one more film with Renner also, so we have NM, Bond 25 and Bourne 5 coming up. :shock:

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Count_Lippe wrote:I wonder if NM will also be inspired by the Bourne movies?

I love the real Bourne, while the Craig flicks were rubbish.

I also think Bourne Legacy with Jeremy Renner was good (much better than Bond), although not quite as good as the Matt Damon films.

They're going to do one more film with Renner also, so we have NM, Bond 25 and Bourne 5 coming up. :shock:

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I pray it won't be inspired by the Bourne films. I pray not! Bourne movies, like CR-egg films are rubbish. The real Bourne is the character who appeared in Ludlum's trilogy, which also was adapted into BBC miniseries very truthfully in 1988. The real Bourne character has nothing in common with the Matt Damon character at all, nor the movies, nor the script. The Bourne in the books is a real spy, whereas Matt Damon character is a simple thug, a failure with unbalanced emotions (dishonour!) who wants to go against his country. But, I liked Bourne Legacy, and I wish it would go just like XIII (Belgian comic series, later adapted into video game) would go into the fantasy direction, such as the character of Aaron Cross would re-join the CIA and Damon's Bourne becomes the main villain who will want to nuke off the US, and Cross will be the one to stop him, just like XIII vs Mongoose!
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Paul Walker has reportedly died in a car crash in California. He was 40 years old. Rest in peace, Paul.

Read the story for more info and we'll update you when we hear more: http://imdb.to/1b7nYOU
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John P. Drake wrote: I pray it won't be inspired by the Bourne films. I pray not! Bourne movies, like CR-egg films are rubbish. The real Bourne is the character who appeared in Ludlum's trilogy, which also was adapted into BBC miniseries very truthfully in 1988. The real Bourne character has nothing in common with the Matt Damon character at all, nor the movies, nor the script. The Bourne in the books is a real spy, whereas Matt Damon character is a simple thug, a failure with unbalanced emotions (dishonour!) who wants to go against his country. But, I liked Bourne Legacy, and I wish it would go just like XIII (Belgian comic series, later adapted into video game) would go into the fantasy direction, such as the character of Aaron Cross would re-join the CIA and Damon's Bourne becomes the main villain who will want to nuke off the US, and Cross will be the one to stop him, just like XIII vs Mongoose!
The films style could be inspired by Bourne, just like the Craig Bonds have, but not the story. The style is great but it didn't suit Bond, and they didn't even do it very well. All the reboot stuff and so on. And Craig is more the simple thug than Damon I would say.

Anyway Bourne goes against his country's dirty business, and they depict the surveillance society of today. To have Bourne wanting to nuke off the US sure would be a parody.
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Count_Lippe wrote: The films style could be inspired by Bourne, just like the Craig Bonds have, but not the story. The style is great but it didn't suit Bond, and they didn't even do it very well. All the reboot stuff and so on. And Craig is more the simple thug than Damon I would say.
Of course it did not suit Bond. It's all about following the current trend, that's what's wrong with people these days, always imitating something that gains fame. The Dark Knight Rises and The Bourne Trilogy are the products that ruined the current-day media. Say I liked Batman Begins, but what they've done with the further sequels was humiliation as they portrayed Batman as an incompetent masquerader, who's trying to make something out of him. Why do people want to see the "protagonists" (I wouldn't call them "heroes", since they are not) suffering, moaning, struggling, mourning and groaning all the time I will never know.
Count_Lippe wrote: Anyway Bourne goes against his country's dirty business, and they depict the surveillance society of today. To have Bourne wanting to nuke off the US sure would be a parody.
He could do it without going "rogue". He could contact someone and somebody from the inside and clear up his name first. Just like the story was in XIII, which is inspired from the Bourne novels, the original canon. It won't be a parody at all, since there is a real underground silo in Washington DC, you'd see that in XIII, or the more recent Salt, starring Angelina Jolie (horrible film though). There is a mole in within the government, and like a detective, Bourne could uncover it, not going all around the world precincts and kill everybody in active thug mode. Going rogue in the first place is treason.
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John P. Drake wrote:Going rogue in the first place is treason.
Not when the agency or government you work for has become corrupt. That was established at the Nuremberg trials.

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John P. Drake wrote:Going rogue in the first place is treason.
Not when the agency or government you work for has become corrupt. That was established at the Nuremberg trials.

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John P. Drake wrote:
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John P. Drake wrote:Going rogue in the first place is treason.
Not when the agency or government you work for has become corrupt. That was established at the Nuremberg trials.

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I have a friend who knows all about these. When someone is being accused as a war criminal while he was just protecting his country from worms, that's what I call unfair. Treadstone, in the first Damon-Bourne movie, was an elite team of protectors. They HAD to kill Wombosi because he was posing as a huge threat to the security of the entire US, if not the western countries entirely, know what I mean?
It's been a long time since I saw the film, so my memory is somewhat hazy, but as I recall, Bourne was sent to kill Wombosi but failed in his mission, and was targeted for elimination himself as a way of removing the evidence. Under those circumstances, he really had no option but to go rogue in order to ensure his own survival.

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