Personally, I think Craig and Harris will make a great Dempsey and Makepeacebjmdds wrote:Ludicrous. They are copying MI 4's cast. MP a field agent? Get the hell out of here. It's done.Even Sweeney will be dismayed over this garbage.
The franchise is not worth saving. We got Pierce's upcoming actioners, which give us a second chance of seeing the dark and gritty side of him that we could have seen in Bond 21. A 5th Bond could have redeem Pierce era, not to mention beating GE in all departments. That didn't happen. But hey...there's always the alternative, and that is regular action flicks. All I can say is it's about time Pierce does an action movie, and they'll be more to come with The Coup and Last Man Out. I just hope they are good enough to put GE to shame, and I don't think you guy have thought hard enough about this, but GE has held the title as Pierce's best actioner (or perhaps best film to the general public) for far TOO LONG already. In referencing Ra's al Ghul's quote from BB, GE's time has come. Pierce's first actioner (November Man) in almost a decade is out next year. I don't expect it to be doing SF's numbers, but it would be nice if it beats DAD's numbers. After all, Pierce said that it has potential to become a franchise.bjmdds wrote:FBF is correct. The franchise is over. Time to move on.Blowfeld wrote:oh god no!Napoleon Solo wrote:1. On Sept. 12, Baz Bagimboye of the Daily Mail (who had a number of Skyfall scoops proved correct) had this story that says Eon is pondering making Naomie Harris's Eve Moneypenny into a "sidekick" for Daniel Craig's Bond:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... hrill.html
If true, does that diminish 007?
http://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2013/09 ... ished-007/
IMO they are trying to make her the new Jinx.Napoleon Solo wrote:1. On Sept. 12, Baz Bagimboye of the Daily Mail (who had a number of Skyfall scoops proved correct) had this story that says Eon is pondering making Naomie Harris's Eve Moneypenny into a "sidekick" for Daniel Craig's Bond:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... hrill.html
If true, does that diminish 007?
http://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2013/09 ... ished-007/
Chief of Staff, 007's gone round the bend. Says someone's been trying to feed him a poisoned banana. Fellow's lost his nerve. Been in the hospital too long. Better call him home.
Exactly. Daniel Craig fans are a disgrace to the franchise. And that includes Barbara Broccoli (since that's her creation).Captain Arthurs wrote:I bet the Daniel Craig fans will say: "This is Fleming's Moneypenny".
Disgrace to the franchise? Disgrace to the entire pop culture if you ask me.John P. Drake wrote:Exactly. Daniel Craig fans are a disgrace to the franchise. And that includes Barbara Broccoli (since that's her creation).Captain Arthurs wrote:I bet the Daniel Craig fans will say: "This is Fleming's Moneypenny".
Yes, you're right. Well, she should've stayed in the kitchen.FormerBondFan wrote:Disgrace to the franchise? Disgrace to the entire pop culture if you ask me.John P. Drake wrote:Exactly. Daniel Craig fans are a disgrace to the franchise. And that includes Barbara Broccoli (since that's her creation).Captain Arthurs wrote:I bet the Daniel Craig fans will say: "This is Fleming's Moneypenny".
What that b1tch does is worse than being artsy. More than that, she's trying place DC's Bond in the same room as Darth Vader and Homer Simpson, the room where pop culture icons belong. If DC's Bond is a pop culture icon, than it's for unattractive actors, fighters/wrestlers who can act, Quake monsters, and the Strogg aliens to invade the Bond role when DC himself retires. Thanks to the nonsensical success and recognition of Skyfall as well as the way Pierce was treated by being screwed over then dismissed without classic Bond aside GE (leaving him to the subject of bashings from the minion as though he was responsible for the franchise going downhill after GE even though he had no control over the content he was given), the Bond roles is theirs, and the tall and handsome actors (even blondes like Ben Cumberbatch, Chris Pine, and the Hemsworths) should stay away from Bond. Bond is not for us anymore, and it's waste of time hoping that the classic Bond actor will return. Bring on November Man and any upcoming actioners from Pierce. That's what us DCINBers need. Bond's a zombie on steroids now. You can't bring him back. Like BJ said, the DC virus is too strong.John P. Drake wrote:Yes, you're right. Well, she should've stayed in the kitchen.FormerBondFan wrote:Disgrace to the franchise? Disgrace to the entire pop culture if you ask me.John P. Drake wrote:Exactly. Daniel Craig fans are a disgrace to the franchise. And that includes Barbara Broccoli (since that's her creation).Captain Arthurs wrote:I bet the Daniel Craig fans will say: "This is Fleming's Moneypenny".
Leave James Bond to unattractive actors and fighters/wrestlers can act. If a DC Bond movie can strike billions at the box office and getting attention from the Oscars, why not Bond movies starring these guys?John P. Drake wrote:James Bond is "past tense" since 2006.
Let's be honest, FBF. I know you like TDK trilogy that Nolan made, but they exactly the same as DC's Bonds and Damon's Bournes. They are of the same genre. And as long as the public love it, it definitely would gross highly at that kind of box office. It's a movie of the same mould. Let's get real at this.FormerBondFan wrote:If a DC Bond movie can strike billions at the box office and getting attention from the Oscars, why not Bond movies starring these guys?John P. Drake wrote:James Bond is "past tense" since 2006.
Even though higher grosser of the trilogy, Rises grossed less than Dark Knight in the US. It's either because of the Joker in Dark Knight or the tragedy in Colorado or even both. Compared to DC's Bond and Damon's Bourne, Nolan's Bat came across as escapism due to the gadgets involved. As popular as TDK Trilogy is, even the fans of these films wanted a fantasy world of the Bat.John P. Drake wrote:Let's be honest, FBF. I know you like TDK trilogy that Nolan made, but they exactly the same as DC's Bonds and Damon's Bournes. They are of the same genre. And as long as the public love it, it definitely would gross highly at that kind of box office. It's a movie of the same mould. Let's get real at this.FormerBondFan wrote:If a DC Bond movie can strike billions at the box office and getting attention from the Oscars, why not Bond movies starring these guys?John P. Drake wrote:James Bond is "past tense" since 2006.
I hope she doesn't go back to the classic Bond actor when DC retires because of the way she treated Pierce. Anyone who said otherwise is a minion no matter what, and the DC virus will still walk among us if the classic Bond actor returns, especially when Babs is in control. Why? The general public WILL NEVER separate DC's Bond from the original 5 Bond actors, and they now see DC as classic Bond all thanks to the nonsensical success and recognition of Skyfall. Leave James Bond for unattractive actors and fighters/wrestlers who can act, and if they want play to Bond, it's theirs. The James Bond franchise is NOT for us anymore, and it's big waste of time hoping that the classic Bond actor will return. I could repeat this a billion times. I would like to see either Jackman, Bale, Cavill, Fassbender, or Cumberbatch taking over as Bond, but based on what Babs The B1tch did to the modern day classic day Bond (Pierce) and what I said earlier about Skyfall, these tall and handsome actors should just stay away from the iconic role (that is now corrupted beyond saving), not to mentioned the B1tch herself. Again, we DCINBers (along with other Anti-Craig rebels out there) should set our eyes on November Man (now in post-production) and other upcoming actioners starring Pierce. That being said, one of Pierce's actioners (The Coup) is set to film in Thailand this fall, and we're going to need it.bjmdds wrote:I always looked forward to Q astonishing me with new gadgets. That's no longer desired by Brocolli. She wants Q to be a Geek Squad hack, ala Luther Stickel in MI. MP as a major player in the field? Is Broccoli a lunatic? How is she getting away with this?
I agree. I liked Nolan's Bat-trilogy, but it has had a corrosive effect on the film industry, with every franchise trying to copy it's dark and doom-laden approach. That approach suits Batman, but not Bond or Superman.John P. Drake wrote: Let's be honest, FBF. I know you like TDK trilogy that Nolan made, but they exactly the same as DC's Bonds and Damon's Bournes. They are of the same genre. And as long as the public love it, it definitely would gross highly at that kind of box office. It's a movie of the same mould. Let's get real at this.
Skyfall also had a few gadgets, FBF. For me, TDKR was a mind torture as much as Skyfall was. They're of the same genre, now. Damon's Bourne is the same as Craig's first two were. I'm being honest and real in here. They just follow what the majority of the audience requests. Frank Miller, who gave us the proper dark-toned Batman without emo crap in The Dark Knight Returns (watch the animated two-parters with Peter Weller), has been put down by this artsy/emo/politically correct loving flower sniffers, because his Batman was a macho in spite of struggling because of his age (being 55 years old as revealed in the graphic novel) and the difficulty of the grounds he was facing. But, Nolan's Batman was merely 40 years old and he was struggling with his own problems and past. Come on. Bourne, on the other hand, just feels sorry for the people he killed, people who were public enemies and enemies of the state and to his country. So instead, with his emoism, he went rogue and tried to expose his people's secrets so it's gonna be easy for the enemy to spot the weaknesses of their rival and take them down easily. If that isn't a traitor, then what is it? And yet this modern-day literally idiotic teenagers (specially here in the US) love it. DC's Bonds combine both of Nolan's Dark Knight and Damon's Bourne. Babs isn't the only ruining a franchise, but many other Bourne/Nolan imitators are there, as well. I hate Babs for being a feminist and artsy, creating a laughable yet offensive universe that Classic Bond stood against. Let's face it. That's the truth. Nolan's Dark Knight, DC's Bonds and Damon's Bournes are the same.FormerBondFan wrote:Even though higher grosser of the trilogy, Rises grossed less than Dark Knight in the US. It's either because of the Joker in Dark Knight or the tragedy in Colorado or even both. Compared to DC's Bond and Damon's Bourne, Nolan's Bat came across as escapism due to the gadgets involved. As popular as TDK Trilogy is, even the fans of these films wanted a fantasy world of the Bat.John P. Drake wrote:Let's be honest, FBF. I know you like TDK trilogy that Nolan made, but they exactly the same as DC's Bonds and Damon's Bournes. They are of the same genre. And as long as the public love it, it definitely would gross highly at that kind of box office. It's a movie of the same mould. Let's get real at this.FormerBondFan wrote:If a DC Bond movie can strike billions at the box office and getting attention from the Oscars, why not Bond movies starring these guys?John P. Drake wrote:James Bond is "past tense" since 2006.
Well, let's agree to disagree. Nolan's kind of Dark Knight does not fit Batman. But, dark/gritty/violent genre fits in IF portrayed properly. Frank Miller and Mark Millar did it best. Even Paul Dini and Bruce Timm, who created the animated series, invented a more adult and dark version of their own creation in the first two Batman: Arkham video games. There are ways to portray something. Bond could handle dark, too. But, only if it's done properly. Has anyone read The Quasimodo Gambit comic book? Classic Bond while being dark, and yet available to take on over-the-top elements such as imitating "Die Hard" movies in the end. See what I mean?Kristatos wrote:I agree. I liked Nolan's Bat-trilogy, but it has had a corrosive effect on the film industry, with every franchise trying to copy it's dark and doom-laden approach. That approach suits Batman, but not Bond or Superman.
