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bjmdds wrote:Sweeney, a lot of us do not have this 'awe' of Craig's acting skills. I also find him a bore in most of his roles, and consider him a minor character actor at best. Let's see how he fits in next weekend in a non-Bond supposed blockbuster with a storyline written by an atheist and Craig sounding confident in the film.
I for one won't be going to see that. I hate those kind of films, regardless of who is in it....
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carl stromberg wrote:I will. Pierce in a black polo neck - that's Bond! :lol:
Thats right lol Pierce in a polo neck. Saw Craig on j ross this week he always come across as dull and a bit arrogant. :shock:

Do you think being Bond has gone to his head? :)

Saw The invasion the other day pretty bad film and Craig has his usual dull non presence in a nothing role. :)

Craig is just crap at interviews. He's an incredibly vague character who seems incapable of finishing a sentance or telling a story. He just mumbles in that weird acting school voice and looks like he's about to scratch his arse or something.
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007 wrote:
james stock wrote:
carl stromberg wrote:I will. Pierce in a black polo neck - that's Bond! :lol:
Thats right lol Pierce in a polo neck. Saw Craig on j ross this week he always come across as dull and a bit arrogant. :shock:

Do you think being Bond has gone to his head? :)

Saw The invasion the other day pretty bad film and Craig has his usual dull non presence in a nothing role. :)

Craig is just crap at interviews. He's an incredibly vague character who seems incapable of finishing a sentance or telling a story. He just mumbles in that weird acting school voice and looks like he's about to scratch his arse or something.
I think a few actors are like this in interviews. I recall De Niro being pretty crap whenever he is interviewed
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The Sweeney wrote:I think a few actors are like this in interviews. I recall De Niro being pretty crap whenever he is interviewed
They're used to having scriptwriters write their words for them.
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The Sweeney wrote:
007 wrote:
james stock wrote:
carl stromberg wrote:I will. Pierce in a black polo neck - that's Bond! :lol:
Thats right lol Pierce in a polo neck. Saw Craig on j ross this week he always come across as dull and a bit arrogant. :shock:

Do you think being Bond has gone to his head? :)

Saw The invasion the other day pretty bad film and Craig has his usual dull non presence in a nothing role. :)

Craig is just crap at interviews. He's an incredibly vague character who seems incapable of finishing a sentance or telling a story. He just mumbles in that weird acting school voice and looks like he's about to scratch his arse or something.
I think a few actors are like this in interviews. I recall De Niro being pretty crap whenever he is interviewed
True................I remember Barry Norman recalling that when he once tried to interview Robert De Niro he just sat there and didn't say a thing until Norman said to him what is his problem!!
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Arthur Brain wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
007 wrote:Craig is just crap at interviews. He's an incredibly vague character who seems incapable of finishing a sentance or telling a story. He just mumbles in that weird acting school voice and looks like he's about to scratch his arse or something.
I think a few actors are like this in interviews. I recall De Niro being pretty crap whenever he is interviewed
True................I remember Barry Norman recalling that when he once tried to interview Robert De Niro he just sat there and didn't say a thing until Norman said to him what is his problem!!
I think it's fair to say there are plenty of actors and actresses that are not comfortable when being interviewed. The problem for Craig is that when compared to Moore, Connery, Brosnan and Dalton he does emitt their level of self confidence and class. IMO of course. :wink:
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He does or does not Skywalker?
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The Sweeney wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Sweeney, a lot of us do not have this 'awe' of Craig's acting skills. I also find him a bore in most of his roles, and consider him a minor character actor at best. Let's see how he fits in next weekend in a non-Bond supposed blockbuster with a storyline written by an atheist and Craig sounding confident in the film.
I for one won't be going to see that. I hate those kind of films, regardless of who is in it....
Today is Golden Compass time Sweeney. Who will flock to see this is the UK, given it's cast? By the way, Forster is on Tavis Smiley tonight I believe on PBS. Maybe he will give a hint at Bond 22?
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bjmdds wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
bjmdds wrote:Sweeney, a lot of us do not have this 'awe' of Craig's acting skills. I also find him a bore in most of his roles, and consider him a minor character actor at best. Let's see how he fits in next weekend in a non-Bond supposed blockbuster with a storyline written by an atheist and Craig sounding confident in the film.
I for one won't be going to see that. I hate those kind of films, regardless of who is in it....
Today is Golden Compass time Sweeney. Who will flock to see this is the UK, given it's cast? By the way, Forster is on Tavis Smiley tonight I believe on PBS. Maybe he will give a hint at Bond 22?
Forster won't speak about it. He's agreed to say nothing until EON pulls out a press conference.
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It looks like we are all going to have to wait to the New Year when Bond 22 starts filming on the 4th Jan before we get any news on the film......at least next year everyone will have plenty to talk about.

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I read a review of The Golden Compass and apparently Daniel Craig is only featured in the film for TEN MINUTES.

So I suppose NEW LINE pulled a THE INVASION on everyone by promoting Craig as a big role when it is not. :lol:
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The Golden Compass went SOUTH at the box office, with just $26 million brought in for the weekend in the USA, even with the "star" appeals of Kidman/Craig/Green. This film may never reach the break even level with the budget suggested at $150-180 million, and it now looks doubtful that Craig will have to worry himself about coordinating future Bond films with making sequels to TGC. With Infamous, The Invasion, and The Golden Compass now put to rest, with none successful, Craig can move on to the role that he had to 'consider' taking, Bond, yet may very well be the ONLY films he does that anyone will ever remember.
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bjmdds wrote:The Golden Compass went SOUTH at the box office, with just $26 million brought in for the weekend in the USA, even with the "star" appeals of Kidman/Craig/Green. This film may never reach the break even level with the budget suggested at $150-180 million, and it now looks doubtful that Craig will have to worry himself about coordinating future Bond films with making sequels to TGC. With Infamous, The Invasion, and The Golden Compass now put to rest, with none successful, Craig can move on to the role that he had to 'consider' taking, Bond, yet may very well be the ONLY films he does that anyone will ever remember.
Yes....$26 mil opening is very poor for a film of this magnitude in regards to production costs. The film will have to spectacular BO overseas just to break even.
From what i've read the film has great production values but little soul.
Craig is apparently only on screen for about 10 minutes of the film, but it has shown that he and Kidman have made some poor choices in the films they signed onto.
Bond 22 will be a different kettle of fish, and yes 'BJ' like Craigs predecesors in the role of Bond, i think Craig will only hit the bigtime with his Bond films.

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Well, I liked the Golden Compass,but I can see why it might not have been a success.The ending they filmed(which is in the ads but not the finished film) will be a disappointment to a LOT of people who have read the book.
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Arthur Brain wrote:
bjmdds wrote:The Golden Compass went SOUTH at the box office, with just $26 million brought in for the weekend in the USA, even with the "star" appeals of Kidman/Craig/Green. This film may never reach the break even level with the budget suggested at $150-180 million, and it now looks doubtful that Craig will have to worry himself about coordinating future Bond films with making sequels to TGC. With Infamous, The Invasion, and The Golden Compass now put to rest, with none successful, Craig can move on to the role that he had to 'consider' taking, Bond, yet may very well be the ONLY films he does that anyone will ever remember.
Yes....$26 mil opening is very poor for a film of this magnitude in regards to production costs. The film will have to spectacular BO overseas just to break even.
From what i've read the film has great production values but little soul.
Craig is apparently only on screen for about 10 minutes of the film, but it has shown that he and Kidman have made some poor choices in the films they signed onto.
Bond 22 will be a different kettle of fish, and yes 'BJ' like Craigs predecesors in the role of Bond, i think Craig will only hit the bigtime with his Bond films.

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So you now will admit this 'great' actor is nothing of the hype? The prior Bonds did not have to hit it big time, for they were not as hyped as Craig's acting ability supposedly is. He has little, if any, star power as does Green or Kidman, and this ridiculous pairing of Kidman and Craig should stop at once. Two strikes so far;one more, they are both out.
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katied wrote:Well, I liked the Golden Compass,but I can see why it might not have been a success.The ending they filmed(which is in the ads but not the finished film) will be a disappointment to a LOT of people who have read the book.
Do you forsee a sequel or one and done here?
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Unfortunately, one and done,probably.Which is a shame,because the other two His Dark Materials books(The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass) would-in the right hands-make great films.
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katied wrote:Unfortunately, one and done,probably.Which is a shame,because the other two His Dark Materials books(The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass) would-in the right hands-make great films.
Katied, what exactly will a director like Forster bring to the table, with Craig backing him up a proper choice, for a Bond film? Also, the MI6 site you frequent has become so juvenile it is not worth reading through the forums. It has really deteriorated over the past year. Do you agree?
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bjmdds wrote:what exactly will a director like Forster bring to the table, with Craig backing him up a proper choice, for a Bond film?
A better film. :) Forster seems very enthusiastic and took this project so he could collaborate with Craig and co. And also why he'd bring a better film is because his films have been highly regarded, so I should expect no less from Forster.

I find it appealing that like Craig, Forster is challenging himself as a director by taking on all kinds of different films. That's much more reassuring than Martin Campbell who turned down Bond 22 in favor for THE BIRDS REMAKE. :shock:
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I have every confidence in Marc Forster.

As far as MI6 is concerned:

I don't think it's that bad.I think eliminating certain people(Read:Thrice) would help,but I seriously doubt that's going to happen.I do think that mentioning certain things(especially Blofeld)is asking for a cyber-beatdown.

Plus there's been a LOT of people posting news articles and turning them into what seem more like rumors and what with the way some people there are,they take it seriously.Then that wind up on websites like Cinematical where they're taken as gospel(the rumor about Bond 22 having more humor is a perfect example of this)
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