The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[Kristatos]

Pierce deserves a better than this. When would GE ever be topped in terms of reviews as far as Pierce's action films (or even entire career) are concerned?

At the end of the day, though, what matters is whether *you* enjoy it.

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[Omega]

No need to go there. Just ask the simple question how many action films costing under $100 million get good reviews? How many under $80, $50, $30 million?

It may be these movies do not the most complicated scripts, maybe they are more straight forward but people like them.

NM May not be as good as it could be or maybe it's better than the critics say.
The low budget action movies normally deliver exactly what their audience wants for 1/4 the money of the summer blockbusters

[Omega]

Good point kris. I'm seeing NM I'll say if I enjoyed it or if it sucked.

From the early reviews they wanted a under $30 million movie to reinvent the spy movies. If the were able to keep up with Bourne and bond in the action even a little then they did well.

Who knows it may suck. But I've seen expendables 3 and it did not suck, delivered exactly what the fans of 1&2 expect. The reviews say it's the worst thing ever, as long as if makes money the last laugh goes to Stallone

[bjmdds]

My group is psyched to see it. These critics loved Sk-Awful, so what do they know?

[FormerBondFan]

Pierce deserves a better than this. When would GE ever be topped in terms of reviews as far as Pierce's action films (or even entire career) are concerned?

At the end of the day, though, what matters is whether *you* enjoy it.

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But us enjoying them is not enough. As a 90s kids growing up watching his Bond, I've hope that Pierce will have his best actioner (or even best film) in the eyes of the majority since GE, which has held its throne for FAR TOO long. 19 years and ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!

[FormerBondFan]

I have found a really great review for NM. Time for to us take advantage of this:

http://www.shockya.com/news/2014/08/14/ ... ie-review/

[bjmdds]

Ignore the paid off Broccoli smears FBF. You will enjoy the film......."The Bottom Line :"Overly familiar spy film serves its star well"----"Giving Brosnan the opportunity to prove his cool remains intact, sans tux and gadgets. November Man won't do anything like Bond's box office, but will satisfy the actor's fans and moviegoers biding their time until the next top-shelf le Carre-style thriller." http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie/ ... iew/725506

[FormerBondFan]

Ignore the paid off Broccoli smears FBF. You will enjoy the film......."The Bottom Line :"Overly familiar spy film serves its star well"----"Giving Brosnan the opportunity to prove his cool remains intact, sans tux and gadgets. November Man won't do anything like Bond's box office, but will satisfy the actor's fans and moviegoers biding their time until the next top-shelf le Carre-style thriller." http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movie/ ... iew/725506

It doesn't matter if does Bond numbers. What matters most is for NM to beat the living motherf*ck*ing sh*t out of GE. We all love GE, and GE deserves all the love and god-like praise it gets. Seriously, it is so F*CK*NG overrated not in the history of Bond but in Pierce's entire career as his talents either were underused or went under radar after GE. Like Glorious England said last year, Pierce's first Bond movie has held its throne for FAR TOO LONG. Sooner or later, GE will have to surrender its title as Pierce's best actioner (or even best film) just like Bat '89 did when BB came out and took the former's title as the best of the Batfranchise.

[bjmdds]

Put Sean Bean in the sequel

[FormerBondFan]

Put Sean Bean in the sequel

What Pierce needs is a great director and a great script. Putting a another famous star doesn't change a thing. When will people ever going to realize that he's been underrated ever since after GE? Another Pierce actioner besting GE is doable if you have the right director and the right script.

[bjmdds]

Pierce Brosnan has revealed that shooting action films is becoming more challenging physically as he gets older.

The Irish star, who played James Bond in four films between 1995 to 2002, admitted returning to the spy world as ex-CIA agent Peter Devereaux in Roger Donaldson's thriller The November Man proved to be harder than he thought.

"Acting is always hard. But action is tough, if you're 24 or if you're a man of a certain age - I'm 61. It gets pretty hard to go out there and do it," he said at the premiere of The November Man in Los Angeles.


The actor continued: "You have to look after yourself. Luckily I had a bunch of the lads from the James Bond days. We worked and worked... so I was well protected by old friends."

But Pierce had no hesitations about playing a spy again.

"The character of Peter Devereaux that I play is a hard-boiled man, a cultured bad-a**, a sassy operative loner and someone who's been in the game for a long time," he said. "I think there is enough time between my days of James Bond and The November Man... for me to jump back into the ring and give it a try."

He joked Peter could take on his former 007 alter-ego in a fight, saying: "Yeah sure, why not? Bring it on! It's all a game anyway."

[FormerBondFan]

Pierce Brosnan has revealed that shooting action films is becoming more challenging physically as he gets older.

He does have a point, but Sean and Mike Caine did actioners well into their 70s so why should Pierce be any different? Besides, he confirms his interest to join the EX team in 4.

[Kristatos]

It doesn't matter if does Bond numbers. What matters most is for NM to beat the living motherf*ck*ing sh*t out of GE. We all love GE, and GE deserves all the love and god-like praise it gets. Seriously, it is so F*CK*NG overrated not in the history of Bond but in Pierce's entire career as his talents either were underused or went under radar after GE. Like Glorious England said last year, Pierce's first Bond movie has held its throne for FAR TOO LONG. Sooner or later, GE will have to surrender its title as Pierce's best actioner (or even best film) just like Bat '89 did when BB came out and took the former's title as the best of the Batfranchise.

*If* that happens, I suspect it will be a long-term thing rather than an overnight success, much as Taken gradually built up its reputation over the course of several years. I don't think it was a massive critical or box office success on its initial theatrical release. It did OK, but nothing spectacular.

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

I've read some November Man reviews, and they're lukewarm at best. Even suggestion that you'd need a lot of 90's nostalgia to make it through the film, or words to that effect. I'm curious to see it, but not like posters here, putting the film up on a pedestal.

As for GE, it isn't the bees knees. It feels like a Dalton film, missing the vital componant, Dalton. And Batman '89/Batman Returns beats guano out of Batman Begins/The Dark Knight/ The Dark Knight Rises.

[Kristatos]

I've read some November Man reviews, and they're lukewarm at best. Even suggestion that you'd need a lot of 90's nostalgia to make it through the film, or words to that effect. I'm curious to see it, but not like posters here, putting the film up on a pedestal.

Well, then you're clearly shirking in your sacred duty to ensure that this film is a critical and commercial success, no doubt invoking the frankly pathetic excuse that you don't have any control over how people react to it (unlike Barbara Broccoli, who is magic and can control the minds of anyone apart from the people on this forum, who are mysteriously immune).

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[bjmdds]

Don't worry Kris, with FBF's internet influence and all the power behind this website, we will overcome Broccoli's kibosh on this film.

[Blowfeld]

I've read some November Man reviews, and they're lukewarm at best. Even suggestion that you'd need a lot of 90's nostalgia to make it through the film, or words to that effect. I'm curious to see it, but not like posters here, putting the film up on a pedestal.

Well, then you're clearly shirking in your sacred duty to ensure that this film is a critical and commercial success, no doubt invoking the frankly pathetic excuse that you don't have any control over how people react to it (unlike Barbara Broccoli, who is magic and can control the minds of anyone apart from the people on this forum, who are mysteriously immune).

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What are we now? The Sisterhood of Karn?

I like Pierce, I enjoyed his 007 and occasionally enjoy his movies. At the moment he is experiencing a great after Bond career. Frankly it's a career I'm sure Daniel is envious of.

Putting in so much personal effort to make The November Man Pierce Brosnan's revival, best movie, huge box office, as a form of revenge for how Daniel got the role and Barbara set about dismantling her family's legacy. I don't know, to me, it puts to much importance on EONs Bond to ever move past it.

The movie may not be any good. Of course as is pointed out it may be good for what it is supposed to be. I'm not sure if the books the series is based is worth making a movie out of so it could be a triumph of movie making over source material.

By the way guys Serenity is a prime example of low budget movie and high acclaim. The low budget excuse for bad reviews I feel is weak.

However there is a fair point that genre films suffer critics wrath more often.

I seriously hope Pierce's movie is a fan favourite and he gets to make his own mark in the spy genre. I can't get too excited about a movie no release date for the rest of the world with the exception of Bucharest.

Honestly I'm slightly surprised there was early screenings for it. Many small productions like this forgo the press screening. Good on Pierce for doing it right with a proper opening and screening.

[Daltonite Toothpaste]

I've read some November Man reviews, and they're lukewarm at best. Even suggestion that you'd need a lot of 90's nostalgia to make it through the film, or words to that effect. I'm curious to see it, but not like posters here, putting the film up on a pedestal.

Well, then you're clearly shirking in your sacred duty to ensure that this film is a critical and commercial success, no doubt invoking the frankly pathetic excuse that you don't have any control over how people react to it (unlike Barbara Broccoli, who is magic and can control the minds of anyone apart from the people on this forum, who are mysteriously immune).

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My tin hat does stop the eon mind control rays, if that's what you're suggesting. But at the same time, I don't feel the same about Brosnan as most here. I have no ill feelings towards him, and will watch The November Man out of curiosity, but I have no desire to add to the films box office, in an attempt to show that he was better than his Bond material.

[Kristatos]

My tin hat does stop the eon mind control rays, if that's what you're suggesting. But at the same time, I don't feel the same about Brosnan as most here.

I think only one or two posters here are that emotionally invested in NM's success, to be honest. For myself, I want the film to succeed, but I'm not going to stake my entire future happiness on it.

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[Omega]

Man Expendables 3 is getting spanked!!

In a quiet voice
This time I think could be due to the piracy.