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Does it really matter if Bond 22 has high admissions. I'm sure the majority of members on here wouldn't give a flying f*&k if it did. In a way, I hope it does not exceed CR, so that I can listen to our resident jokers (Benny/Jet Set and Johnny [Stock] Bovril) come out with their lame excuses as to why it failed. Our favourite condom full of walnuts would still not appeal to many of the guys on DCINB as his sour (pained) expression face would still resemble a bulldog licking the p*ss off a thistle and the thought of an OAJ (Old aged Juvenile) running through walls and crane jumping would not sway my opinion.








































Only Joking. Does it really matter if the BO takings/admissions are higher than CR? :wink:
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Skywalker wrote:Only Joking. Does it really matter if the BO takings/admissions are higher than CR? :wink:
I think it does. If there's one thing more terrifying than the thought of a third film with Craig in the CR mould, it's the thought of Craig trying to pull off a lighthearted Moore-style Bond film, which is probably what would he would be forced to do if Bond 22 were to underperform at the box office. Fortunately, I don't think there's much chance of that happening.
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Can only speak for myself. I will not go to another Bond movie.

It does matter, another Dalton LTK and they will drop the Bourne fetish like they dropped the weird Miami Vice thang they had going on in the late 1980's.
They always do this, screw with a good thing call it an experiment say we've found religion and this is how the good book says it should be done. Don't like? It's your problem. Holding a dogeared copy of Moonraker above their head yelling, It's in the good book!!!
Then revelations is people stop going, next thing you know they bring in a new actor and get back to business.
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Skywalker wrote:Does it really matter if Bond 22 has high admissions. I'm sure the majority of members on here wouldn't give a flying f*&k if it did. In a way, I hope it does not exceed CR, so that I can listen to our resident jokers (Benny/Jet Set and Johnny [Stock] Bovril) come out with their lame excuses as to why it failed.
I think it will exceed CR, and then I will be looking to lame excuses from you guys as to why it did. With CR you had an excuse, `New Bond, hyped up, curiosity factor', etc. but what will the excuses be for 22...... :wink:
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I think it will exceed CR, and then I will be looking to lame excuses from you guys as to why it did. With CR you had an excuse, `New Bond, hyped up, curiosity factor', etc. but what will the excuses be for 22......
How about the lead actor bears the name of a very famous, world-renowned action hero/spy icon?
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Skywalker wrote:Only Joking. Does it really matter if the BO takings/admissions are higher than CR? :wink:
I think it does. If there's one thing more terrifying than the thought of a third film with Craig in the CR mould, it's the thought of Craig trying to pull off a lighthearted Moore-style Bond film, which is probably what would he would be forced to do if Bond 22 were to underperform at the box office. Fortunately, I don't think there's much chance of that happening.
I'm sure it's a safe bet to assume that Craig will not do a tarzan yell.
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Skywalker wrote:Does it really matter if Bond 22 has high admissions. I'm sure the majority of members on here wouldn't give a flying f*&k if it did. In a way, I hope it does not exceed CR, so that I can listen to our resident jokers (Benny/Jet Set and Johnny [Stock] Bovril) come out with their lame excuses as to why it failed.
I think it will exceed CR, and then I will be looking to lame excuses from you guys as to why it did. With CR you had an excuse, `New Bond, hyped up, curiosity factor', etc. but what will the excuses be for 22...... :wink:
I think the curiousity factor will ensure good returns for Bond 22. Bond 23 is the right film to debate how successful Craig has been.
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The Sweeney wrote:I think it will exceed CR, and then I will be looking to lame excuses from you guys as to why it did.
You won't get any excuses from me. I'm expecting it to exceed CR too. I know that Craig's "Bond" is in vogue at the moment. Doesn't mean I have to like it.
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Jedi007 wrote:
I think it will exceed CR, and then I will be looking to lame excuses from you guys as to why it did. With CR you had an excuse, `New Bond, hyped up, curiosity factor', etc. but what will the excuses be for 22......
How about the lead actor bears the name of a very famous, world-renowned action hero/spy icon?
In which case, 22 will be a success, and Craig is here to stay for yet another outing.....
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Jedi007 wrote:How about the lead actor bears the name of a very famous, world-renowned action hero/spy icon?
There's a famous action hero called Daniel Craig?
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The smartest thing Eon did (no idea if it was planned) was move Bond from the summer to november. I think this has played a big role in the success of James Bond post 1989.
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I believe the audiences wanted some crappy Bourne/Statham rip-off.

They got it, and we won't get our Bond movie.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:I believe the audiences wanted some crappy Bourne/Statham rip-off.

They got it, and we won't get our Bond movie.
Looks like they are appealing to the masses, not the minority.... :wink:
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The Sweeney wrote:
Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:I believe the audiences wanted some crappy Bourne/Statham rip-off.

They got it, and we won't get our Bond movie.
Looks like they are appealing to the masses, not the minority.... :wink:
The producers were nerveous when Tomorrow Never Dies was in the works. To say the Bond 22 is a sure thing is asinine.
2nd outings for Bond actors are very iffy occasions, not one actor since Sir Sean Connery has avoided the curse of the second outing drop. Two of them nearly wrecked the franchise. Before Daniel's friends here and personal spin bravado team step in, yes there were Bond movies considered to be failures. Numerous sources including Eon admitted it as recently as 1999.

I travel frequently form my job and have met plenty of people in my travels or hosting for the company who are not pleased with Daniel's Bond. I am not claiming to speak for everybody. However there are enough people unhappy with Daniel to keep him being a sure thing. Most forums or review site has a number of poor reviews for Daniel/Royale.
As I pointed out earlier even online gamblers are not throughly convinced of him.

Fan forums are one thing, even on fan forums there is disagreement over Daniel for various reasons. There is no universal pact assuring Bond 22 or Daniel's success.

What will be interesting is how Daniel's fans will "excuse" Bond 22 preforming poorly, if indeed that does happen ;)
The American market is already written off as unimportant. ;)
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Blowfeld wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:I believe the audiences wanted some crappy Bourne/Statham rip-off.

They got it, and we won't get our Bond movie.
Looks like they are appealing to the masses, not the minority.... :wink:
The producers were nerveous when Tomorrow Never Dies was in the works. To say the Bond 22 is a sure thing is asinine.
2nd outings for Bond actors are very iffy occasions, not one actor since Sir Sean Connery has avoided the curse of the second outing drop. Two of them nearly wrecked the franchise. Before Daniel's friends here and personal spin bravado team step in, yes there were Bond movies considered to be failures. Numerous sources including Eon admitted it as recently as 1999.

I travel frequently form my job and have met plenty of people in my travels or hosting for the company who are not pleased with Daniel's Bond. I am not claiming to speak for everybody. However there are enough people unhappy with Daniel to keep him being a sure thing. Most forums or review site has a number of poor reviews for Daniel/Royale.
As I pointed out earlier even online gamblers are not throughly convinced of him.

Fan forums are one thing, even on fan forums there is disagreement over Daniel for various reasons. There is no universal pact assuring Bond 22 or Daniel's success.

What will be interesting is how Daniel's fans will "excuse" Bond 22 preforming poorly, if indeed that does happen ;)
The American market is already written off as unimportant. ;)
To be honest, my main prority for Bond 22 is that it is as good (if not better) than CR. By this I mean the film itself, not how many bums it put on seats. If it is a success too, then that is a bonus, but the BO is NOT a priority with me, but it seems on here it is a priority with others.

My disappointment with DAD had nothing at all to do with how successful it was. I judge a film on the film alone, not the BO draw (hence why I like LTK).

I have only started to be drawn into BO arguments on here as this seems to be everyones concern.

And with regards CR negative reviews on sites, I think you would be hard pushed to find ANY film that doesn't have negative reviews....
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Blowfeld wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:I believe the audiences wanted some crappy Bourne/Statham rip-off.

They got it, and we won't get our Bond movie.
Looks like they are appealing to the masses, not the minority.... :wink:
The producers were nerveous when Tomorrow Never Dies was in the works. To say the Bond 22 is a sure thing is asinine.
2nd outings for Bond actors are very iffy occasions, not one actor since Sir Sean Connery has avoided the curse of the second outing drop. Two of them nearly wrecked the franchise. Before Daniel's friends here and personal spin bravado team step in, yes there were Bond movies considered to be failures. Numerous sources including Eon admitted it as recently as 1999.

I travel frequently form my job and have met plenty of people in my travels or hosting for the company who are not pleased with Daniel's Bond. I am not claiming to speak for everybody. However there are enough people unhappy with Daniel to keep him being a sure thing. Most forums or review site has a number of poor reviews for Daniel/Royale.
As I pointed out earlier even online gamblers are not throughly convinced of him.

Fan forums are one thing, even on fan forums there is disagreement over Daniel for various reasons. There is no universal pact assuring Bond 22 or Daniel's success.

What will be interesting is how Daniel's fans will "excuse" Bond 22 preforming poorly, if indeed that does happen ;)
The American market is already written off as unimportant. ;)
To be honest, my main prority for Bond 22 is that it is as good (if not better) than CR. By this I mean the film itself, not how many bums it put on seats. If it is a success too, then that is a bonus, but the BO is NOT a priority with me, but it seems on here it is a priority with others.

My disappointment with DAD had nothing at all to do with how successful it was. I judge a film on the film alone, not the BO draw (hence why I like LTK).

I have only started to be drawn into BO arguments on here as this seems to be everyones concern.

And with regards CR negative reviews on sites, I think you would be hard pushed to find ANY film that doesn't have negative reviews....
True most movies will get negatives, however when Daniel's friends make blanket statements about Daniel's universal acceptance or Bond 22 assured success, then pointing out that it is not universal and does not speak for all is not out of line. For instance a IMDB Daily poll from January has 18.9% of responders as on the fence about Daniel.

If your stance, which is a good one, is for a better movie regardless of BO , then maybe you can understand how people who have seen Royale can be disappointed and consider it a failure no matter what the BO. BO is the first thing Daniel's friends will point to as success or as this means it's a good movie.

As I recall your disappointment with Die Another Day is a more recent development, fair to speculate Royale may suffer in coming months and years.

Back on topic, Bond 22 preforming badly no matter how it is read, is likely to result in a changes for Bond 23
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To be honest, my main prority for Bond 22 is that it is as good (if not better) than CR. By this I mean the film itself, not how many bums it put on seats. If it is a success too, then that is a bonus, but the BO is NOT a priority with me, but it seems on here it is a priority with others.
You are obsessed with the Box Office! Everytime I say that (IMO) CR was awful and that Craig was a poor Bond, you say "Well you are the only one as 99% of people on Filmreview.net loved it and it broke all BO records in Denmark"!!!! :lol:
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carl stromberg wrote:
To be honest, my main prority for Bond 22 is that it is as good (if not better) than CR. By this I mean the film itself, not how many bums it put on seats. If it is a success too, then that is a bonus, but the BO is NOT a priority with me, but it seems on here it is a priority with others.
You are obsessed with the Box Office! Everytime I say that (IMO) CR was awful and that Craig was a poor Bond, you say "Well you are the only one as 99% of people on Filmreview.net loved it and it broke all BO records in Denmark"!!!! :lol:
I use it as an argument on here against you wicked lot, because I know it bothers you all!! :twisted:

But seriously, the only thing I care about regarding Bond 22, is the film itself. If it does booming BO too, then of course, I'll use that weapon again for old arguments sake, but I am actually not that bothered about BO's in general.
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as long as it does Wild Hogs money this guy is happy :lol: :lol: :lol:
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carl stromberg wrote:
To be honest, my main prority for Bond 22 is that it is as good (if not better) than CR. By this I mean the film itself, not how many bums it put on seats. If it is a success too, then that is a bonus, but the BO is NOT a priority with me, but it seems on here it is a priority with others.
You are obsessed with the Box Office! Everytime I say that (IMO) CR was awful and that Craig was a poor Bond, you say "Well you are the only one as 99% of people on Filmreview.net loved it and it broke all BO records in Denmark"!!!! :lol:
I use it as an argument on here against you wicked lot, because I know it bothers you all!! :twisted:

But seriously, the only thing I care about regarding Bond 22, is the film itself. If it does booming BO too, then of course, I'll use that weapon again for old arguments sake, but I am actually not that bothered about BO's in general.
It all comes down to personal choice in the end. Regardless of BO figures, I will judge the film on it's own merits and not just jump on to an appreciation bandwagon and kiss ass to become a more popular forum member.
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