The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

[FormerBondFan]

DC is a 'never was'. He is a figment in the minds of disgruntled Bond fans and a green vegetable at Eon. You are a rebel WITH a cause FBF, so keep up your good work Look at this weekend's charts: http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/ Didn't I tell you 2 weeks ago that the Avengers would shortly overtake MIB 3? It did. Trust me. DC, Pascal, Mendes, and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_edit.jpg are GOING DOWN IN FLAMES on this morose flick holiday time, 3 days after the Oh-bama gets sent packing by the good citizens of the USA

What Bond 23 needs is to CRASH and BURN like crazy. It'll take more than just vampires and Bilbo to do all this dirty work. I hope Rise of the Guardians and Les Miserables (Hugh Jackman is in this) are powerful enough.

And BJ, wouldn't you want DC's Bond or anything associated with DC's Bond to be completely forgotten? It would be a bad image if Bond 23 surpasses CR's worldwide gross of $594 million and/or QOS' US gross of $168 million even with an increase in ticket prices to mask lower attendance, and you may as well give up bringing back the traditional Bond. Like I said, Bond 23 needs to lose it all in the outside.

[bjmdds]

Sony has had a mixed year so far (at least in the U.S.)

http://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2012/06 ... 012-surge/

Looks like MIB is stalling out. $577 this week and needed "687.2M" to break even, but as Ale says the real number is bigger to pay for taxes and other stuff.

I kind of think Spyfall will be lucky to do as well as this just with the competition. IMO a month of good BO like MIB 3 will be lucky.

Spiderman will probably do OK they are giving away tickets to this like crazy, I got a Xbox live email with a free ticket offer if I buy one of the spiderman movies from zune.

Total Recall I think will flop cause from the ads this is the same movie I saw years ago. I don't feel Total recall, a rental/download maybe. Wait three months and get the Ultraviolet code on ebay for $4

One thing I forgot about is Sony will do good because they are the distributor, get what 8% (Ale, Mazer?) of the gross. Then any profit split. Hummm.

What's this big O, Sony is "giving away" Spiderman tickets? How does this fraudulent practice factor into the box office reported admissions and income?

[bjmdds]

DC is a 'never was'. He is a figment in the minds of disgruntled Bond fans and a green vegetable at Eon. You are a rebel WITH a cause FBF, so keep up your good work Look at this weekend's charts: http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/ Didn't I tell you 2 weeks ago that the Avengers would shortly overtake MIB 3? It did. Trust me. DC, Pascal, Mendes, and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_edit.jpg are GOING DOWN IN FLAMES on this morose flick holiday time, 3 days after the Oh-bama gets sent packing by the good citizens of the USA

What Bond 23 needs is to CRASH and BURN like crazy. It'll take more than just vampires and Bilbo to do all this dirty work. I hope Rise of the Guardians and Les Miserables (Hugh Jackman is in this) are powerful enough.

And BJ, wouldn't you want DC's Bond or anything associated with DC's Bond to be completely forgotten? It would be a bad image if Bond 23 surpasses CR's worldwide gross of $594 million and/or QOS' US gross of $168 million even with an increase in ticket prices to mask lower attendance, and you may as well give up bringing back the traditional Bond. Like I said, Bond 23 needs to lose it all in the outside.

I tend to agree with Omega man that Bond 23 will mimic MIB 3's box office and lose steam abruptly.

[FormerBondFan]

DC is a 'never was'. He is a figment in the minds of disgruntled Bond fans and a green vegetable at Eon. You are a rebel WITH a cause FBF, so keep up your good work Look at this weekend's charts: http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/ Didn't I tell you 2 weeks ago that the Avengers would shortly overtake MIB 3? It did. Trust me. DC, Pascal, Mendes, and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_edit.jpg are GOING DOWN IN FLAMES on this morose flick holiday time, 3 days after the Oh-bama gets sent packing by the good citizens of the USA

What Bond 23 needs is to CRASH and BURN like crazy. It'll take more than just vampires and Bilbo to do all this dirty work. I hope Rise of the Guardians and Les Miserables (Hugh Jackman is in this) are powerful enough.

And BJ, wouldn't you want DC's Bond or anything associated with DC's Bond to be completely forgotten? It would be a bad image if Bond 23 surpasses CR's worldwide gross of $594 million and/or QOS' US gross of $168 million even with an increase in ticket prices to mask lower attendance, and you may as well give up bringing back the traditional Bond. Like I said, Bond 23 needs to lose it all in the outside.

I tend to agree with Omega man that Bond 23 will mimic MIB 3's box office and lose steam abruptly.

Then you guys should give up bringing back the traditional Bond and instead go for Carrot Top or Blue Man Group as Bond. Heck, why not 7 foot wrestler from WWE and/or UFC? That should be a response to the general public, especially here in the US, of how STUPID they really are of paying to see a DC Bond movie.

And what about Twilight and Rise of the Guardians? Those movies will suck the life out of Bond 23 when released. Thanksgiving will be roamed with families and kids watching Guardians.

[FormerBondFan]

BJ, you need to look at this:

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batman.htm
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batmanbegins.htm

Is it surprising that BB (one of the 2005's best films) made less than Bat '89 both here and worldwide and the fact that 2005 dollars are bigger 1989's? We can only hope this should be the case with Bond 23. Also, look Star Trek Nemesis. It released 4 years after Insurrection, which got mixed reviews, and was heavily promoted. In the end, Nemesis failed critically and financially. Like Nemesis, Bond 23 will face intense competition. If Bond 23 ends up being a three times the charm Bond movie (breaking CR's worldwide gross and QOS' US gross) even with rising ticket prices masking low attendance, then I'll go from FormerBondFan to JamesBondSucksIRatherWatchPorno or IRatherWatchPornThanBond.

[Omega]

What's this big O, Sony is "giving away" Spiderman tickets? How does this fraudulent practice factor into the box office reported admissions and income?

I guess its the same deal DVD and Blu-ray are getting.

If I go to the Xbox store, zune marketplace, buy any of the Spiderman movies they email me a code to use for up to $10 on a ticket. First time I've heard of this for digital copy, the movie cost maybe $10 depending how much the MS points cost. Also the first time I got a email for a movie sent the email address is use for my gamertags. Either they are desperate thinking the movie is going to flop or its trying reach the gamer demographic who might give a rat ass about Peter Parker.

[bjmdds]

BJ, you need to look at this:

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batman.htm
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=batmanbegins.htm

Is it surprising that BB (one of the 2005's best films) made less than Bat '89 both here and worldwide and the fact that 2005 dollars are bigger 1989's? We can only hope this should be the case with Bond 23. Also, look Star Trek Nemesis. It released 4 years after Insurrection, which got mixed reviews, and was heavily promoted. In the end, Nemesis failed critically and financially. Like Nemesis, Bond 23 will face intense competition. If Bond 23 ends up being a three times the charm Bond movie (breaking CR's worldwide gross and QOS' US gross) even with rising ticket prices masking low attendance, then I'll go from FormerBondFan to JamesBondSucksIRatherWatchPorno or IRatherWatchPornThanBond.

JamesBondSucksIRatherWatchPorno, I hope Bond 23 gets cancelled and pushed back to 2013 but you know that won't happen. I hope it opens to $20 million in the USA, but you know that won't happen. Just watch it fall off the cliff once the vampires take over. That is what we want. The minions will follow Chancellor Kai-lan(Kai-lan, also known as Chinese broccoli) from Eon no matter what rubbish she puts out, that's the problem. Maybe we should post signs outside of the theatres saying Bond 23 is not worth the price of admission, what say yee JamesBondSucksIRatherWatchPorno?

[FormerBondFan]

Maybe we should post signs outside of the theatres saying Bond 23 is not worth the price of admission, what say yee JamesBondSucksIRatherWatchPorno?

If this should be done, then this is not a one-man's job. We got to think like Batman.

[FormerBondFan]

Speaking of Star Trek Nemesis, I remember back in high school when my science teacher told me that Nemesis looked pretty lame through the trailers. I wanted to see it, but somehow Trek seemed to ran out of gas. Could this be the case with Bond 23? As said earlier, Nemesis released 4 years after Insurrection, which got mixed reviews, and it was DOA.

[Kristatos]

Speaking of Star Trek Nemesis, I remember back in high school when my science teacher told me that Nemesis looked pretty lame through the trailers. I wanted to see it, but somehow Trek seemed to ran out of gas. Could this be the case with Bond 23? As said earlier, Nemesis released 4 years after Insurrection, which got mixed reviews, and it was DOA.

The curse of John Logan?

[FormerBondFan]

Speaking of Star Trek Nemesis, I remember back in high school when my science teacher told me that Nemesis looked pretty lame through the trailers. I wanted to see it, but somehow Trek seemed to ran out of gas. Could this be the case with Bond 23? As said earlier, Nemesis released 4 years after Insurrection, which got mixed reviews, and it was DOA.

The curse of John Logan?

That and probably Sam Mendes, who has no experience in action films. And this somewhat reminds me of Stuart Baird, who never watched a single episode of TNG according to Marina Sirtis. Some of the TNG cast said that Baird is one of reasons why Nemesis bombed.

[Kristatos]

That and probably Sam Mendes, who has no experience in action films. And this somewhat reminds me of Stuart Baird, who never watched a single episode of TNG according to Marina Sirtis. Some of the TNG cast said that Baird is one of reasons why Nemesis bombed.

Guess what his next film is? Though as editor, rather than director.

[FormerBondFan]

That and probably Sam Mendes, who has no experience in action films. And this somewhat reminds me of Stuart Baird, who never watched a single episode of TNG according to Marina Sirtis. Some of the TNG cast said that Baird is one of reasons why Nemesis bombed.

Guess what his next film is? Though as editor, rather than director.

Bond 23 (aka Death Star II). And he edited Green Lantern.

[Kristatos]

The first trailer for Anna Karenina (the only other film opening the same week as Skyfall in the US and Canada) is up. I can't see it posing a serious threat, but if you're looking for an alternative film to support, this seems to be the only option.

http://www.imdb.com/list/VL4US2x9jkE/#play-all

[bjmdds]

See JamesBondSucksIRatherWatchPorno, there is no competition November 9, so what else will people throw their money at? After this, it's all over weekend two.

[FormerBondFan]

See JamesBondSucksIRatherWatchPorno, there is no competition November 9, so what else will people throw their money at? After this, it's all over weekend two.

There is Anna Karenina starring Keira Knightley and Jude Law. From the trailer, it looks like a masterpiece, more in the likes of the Oscar nomination realm.

[bjmdds]

First Shakespeare, now Dr. Who and this out of mixed up Mendes: "There was a kind of, 'We don’t need Q, we don't need Moneypenny. We've got this character. We're going right back to basics. He's real, he’s in a real situation. Let’s start all over again'. I thought that was very refreshing." http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/james ... tor/267394

[Dr. No]

I never saw Craig and thought he was "real" . Somebody kidnaps your wife / girl and your run for your car and chase after them, ok its in the book but you don't call anybody? setup a road block get satellites on them do something real.
I also didn't think Bond handed the keys mistaken for a valet would smash it, Bond would take for his use then drop it back. It probably wouldn't be dropped aback because the bad guy would shoot it up but thats how it goes when Bond is on the road.

Thing about the Fleming story is it was an elaborate cold war ruse to get the commies to kill their man, sure Bond could have walked up to him and shot him dead to accomplish the mission but they played a elaborate game to make their enemies do it.

In the movie its a darn poker game that last forever to accomplish what? Supposedly they wanted him for intel but if that was the goal then Bond failed and the whole thing of terrorism being funded the way they said was dumb.

Gritty and realistic CR would be Bond and Felix grabbing the bad guy from the back of a white van and rushing him to a ship in international waters and Leroy Jethro Gibbs walks in to begin the questioning. Roll the credits

[bjmdds]

2012 Untitled Pierce Brosnan/Jack Orman Project (TV movie) (announced)

2014 November Man (pre-production)

2013 The Coup (pre-production)

2013 A Long Way Down (pre-production)


2013 Love Punch (filming)

2012 Love Is All You Need (post-production)

[FormerBondFan]

2012 Untitled Pierce Brosnan/Jack Orman Project (TV movie) (announced)

2014 November Man (pre-production)

2013 The Coup (pre-production)

2013 A Long Way Down (pre-production)


2013 Love Punch (filming)

2012 Love Is All You Need (post-production)

It's about The Coup and November Man. To hell with Bond 23, great or not.