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LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – It admittedly starts off great guns, but all too quickly it becomes apparent that the big-screen arrival of the supernatural Western DC Comics series "Jonah Hex" is firing loud, empty blanks.
Although Josh Brolin is fine and dandy as the Civil War vet-turned-vengeful bounty hunter with one foot in the grave and a horrendously scarred face, the tortured anti-hero isn't alone when it comes to being cut to the bone.
Clocking in at a barely-there 81 minutes (and that includes the extensive credits sequence), the pared-down end product plays like a generous highlights reel with little else remaining to thread together those explosive, CG-riddled action sequences. Originally slated for an early August bow, the Warner Bros. release was bumped up to serve as young male-skewing counterprogramming to "Toy Story 3," but despite some entertaining bits and pieces, the overall picture unlikely will live up to fanboy Hex-pectations.
They'll tell you that Jonah Hex can trace his DC roots back to the early 1970s but that his life and times date back a century earlier to the Civil War-era Wild West. The legend, at least according to the screenplay by Neveldine & Taylor (the "Crank" movies), has Hex left physically and emotionally mutilated at the hands of the crazed Quentin Turnbull (efficiently if predictably played by John Malkovich), who killed Hex's wife and child in retaliation for the death of his brother. When Turnbull, believed to have been killed in a hotel fire, re-enters the picture with a nefarious scheme that will literally blow the Union apart, Hex is recruited to settle a long-standing score.
In the process, there's no shortage of firepower, but something is missing -- and not just a good chunk of the movie. Hex eventually will always get his man, but director Jimmy Hayward ("Horton Hears a Who!") fails to capture that all-important graphic comic tone that would have been a natural for the sensibilities of, say, Sam Raimi, the Coen brothers or Robert Rodriguez. What one ends up with is something that comes precariously closer to the Barry Sonnenfeld misfire, "Wild, Wild, West," especially by the third act.
Brolin's on-the-money turn aside, it's hard to gauge the other performances given how much of them seem to have been excised, particularly where the likes of Michael Shannon, Aidan Quinn and Tom Wopat are concerned. Megan Fox fails to bring much of a spark to her role of Lilah, the New Orleans prostitute who keeps a candle burning for Hex.
What does get left onscreen certainly looks terrific, with cinematographer Mitchell Amundsen and production designer Tom Meyer getting quite resourceful with the Louisiana locations; composer Marco Beltrami and heavy metal outfit Mastodon provide the necessary sonic grit.
Although Josh Brolin is fine and dandy as the Civil War vet-turned-vengeful bounty hunter with one foot in the grave and a horrendously scarred face, the tortured anti-hero isn't alone when it comes to being cut to the bone.
Clocking in at a barely-there 81 minutes (and that includes the extensive credits sequence), the pared-down end product plays like a generous highlights reel with little else remaining to thread together those explosive, CG-riddled action sequences. Originally slated for an early August bow, the Warner Bros. release was bumped up to serve as young male-skewing counterprogramming to "Toy Story 3," but despite some entertaining bits and pieces, the overall picture unlikely will live up to fanboy Hex-pectations.
They'll tell you that Jonah Hex can trace his DC roots back to the early 1970s but that his life and times date back a century earlier to the Civil War-era Wild West. The legend, at least according to the screenplay by Neveldine & Taylor (the "Crank" movies), has Hex left physically and emotionally mutilated at the hands of the crazed Quentin Turnbull (efficiently if predictably played by John Malkovich), who killed Hex's wife and child in retaliation for the death of his brother. When Turnbull, believed to have been killed in a hotel fire, re-enters the picture with a nefarious scheme that will literally blow the Union apart, Hex is recruited to settle a long-standing score.
In the process, there's no shortage of firepower, but something is missing -- and not just a good chunk of the movie. Hex eventually will always get his man, but director Jimmy Hayward ("Horton Hears a Who!") fails to capture that all-important graphic comic tone that would have been a natural for the sensibilities of, say, Sam Raimi, the Coen brothers or Robert Rodriguez. What one ends up with is something that comes precariously closer to the Barry Sonnenfeld misfire, "Wild, Wild, West," especially by the third act.
Brolin's on-the-money turn aside, it's hard to gauge the other performances given how much of them seem to have been excised, particularly where the likes of Michael Shannon, Aidan Quinn and Tom Wopat are concerned. Megan Fox fails to bring much of a spark to her role of Lilah, the New Orleans prostitute who keeps a candle burning for Hex.
What does get left onscreen certainly looks terrific, with cinematographer Mitchell Amundsen and production designer Tom Meyer getting quite resourceful with the Louisiana locations; composer Marco Beltrami and heavy metal outfit Mastodon provide the necessary sonic grit.
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Megan Fox................................................I would like to bite that thing in the ass hope to develope a severe case of lock jaw and be happily dragged to my death.......
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LONDON - Chill the vodka and dust off the martini glass. James Bond is back.
A new novel featuring the world's most famous secret agent is set to be published next year, the family company of Bond creator Ian Fleming said Friday.
The as-yet untitled book carries the top-secret code name "Project X," and will be written by American novelist Jeffery Deaver, best known for his series of thrillers featuring forensic genius Lincoln Rhyme.
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It's scheduled to be published May 28, 2011 — which would have been Fleming's 103rd birthday. It comes nearly 60 years after the publication of "Casino Royale," the first novel to feature 007.
Deaver said Fleming's work was important to him, "both literarily and personally."
Leaning the technique
"They appealed to me as wonderful stories but they also stood as singular examples of a thriller writer's craft," he said in a news release. "I learned, through osmosis as well as design, much technique from Mr. Fleming's work: compactness, attention to detail, heroic though flawed characters, fast-pacing, concrete imagery and straightforward prose."
In 2008, British novelist Sebastian Faulks wrote a Bond novel to mark the centenary of Fleming's birth. That book, called "Devil May Care," was released around the world and landed on best-seller lists. "Devil May Care" was set in 1967, and featured some of the trademarks expected in a Bond story: a glamorous woman with an improbable name, Scarlett Papava, and a menacing villain who had a monkey's paw for a hand. Video
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Deaver, who lives in North Carolina, has sold more than 20 million copies of novels worldwide. "The Bone Collector," was made into a film in 1999, with Denzel Washington playing Rhyme and Angelina Jolie his trusted sidekick. A new Rhyme novel is due out in June in the United States and July in Britain.
Another novel, "Garden of Beasts," won the prestigious Crime Writers' Association Ian Fleming Steel Dagger Award, given for the best adventure or thriller novel written in Bond-like style.
Ian Fleming Publications Ltd. managing director Corinne Turner thought then that "James Bond could have an interesting adventure in Jeffery Deaver's hands."
His Bond book, to be set in the present day, will be published by Hodder & Stoughton in Britain and Simon & Schuster in the United States. More than 100 million James Bond books have been sold around the world.
In April, it was announced that work on the next Bond movie — known only as "Bond 23" — had been stopped indefinitely because of uncertainty about the future of distributor Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. The film was due to be released in 2011 or 2012.
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A new novel featuring the world's most famous secret agent is set to be published next year, the family company of Bond creator Ian Fleming said Friday.
The as-yet untitled book carries the top-secret code name "Project X," and will be written by American novelist Jeffery Deaver, best known for his series of thrillers featuring forensic genius Lincoln Rhyme.
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It's scheduled to be published May 28, 2011 — which would have been Fleming's 103rd birthday. It comes nearly 60 years after the publication of "Casino Royale," the first novel to feature 007.
Deaver said Fleming's work was important to him, "both literarily and personally."
Leaning the technique
"They appealed to me as wonderful stories but they also stood as singular examples of a thriller writer's craft," he said in a news release. "I learned, through osmosis as well as design, much technique from Mr. Fleming's work: compactness, attention to detail, heroic though flawed characters, fast-pacing, concrete imagery and straightforward prose."
In 2008, British novelist Sebastian Faulks wrote a Bond novel to mark the centenary of Fleming's birth. That book, called "Devil May Care," was released around the world and landed on best-seller lists. "Devil May Care" was set in 1967, and featured some of the trademarks expected in a Bond story: a glamorous woman with an improbable name, Scarlett Papava, and a menacing villain who had a monkey's paw for a hand. Video
Roger Moore reflects on being Bond
TODAY’s Matt Lauer talks to former James Bond actor Sir Roger Moore about his new memoir, “My Word Is My Bond.”
Today show
Deaver, who lives in North Carolina, has sold more than 20 million copies of novels worldwide. "The Bone Collector," was made into a film in 1999, with Denzel Washington playing Rhyme and Angelina Jolie his trusted sidekick. A new Rhyme novel is due out in June in the United States and July in Britain.
Another novel, "Garden of Beasts," won the prestigious Crime Writers' Association Ian Fleming Steel Dagger Award, given for the best adventure or thriller novel written in Bond-like style.
Ian Fleming Publications Ltd. managing director Corinne Turner thought then that "James Bond could have an interesting adventure in Jeffery Deaver's hands."
His Bond book, to be set in the present day, will be published by Hodder & Stoughton in Britain and Simon & Schuster in the United States. More than 100 million James Bond books have been sold around the world.
In April, it was announced that work on the next Bond movie — known only as "Bond 23" — had been stopped indefinitely because of uncertainty about the future of distributor Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc. The film was due to be released in 2011 or 2012.
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There was a show many years ago starring Robert Loggia . called THE CAT....about a stealthy cat burglar who was raised by gypsies and preformed / carried out his skill ......The storys where eye catching and today again with the right actor chosen would put out a good performance and possible a good storyline.. gadgets, cars, women, suspense, travel all the factors that would captivate and hold an audience... Hell even the old Peter Gunn series could be brought back to life which starred Craig Stevens.
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London – In a passage from his "Seven Pillars of Wisdom," T.E. Lawrence recounts days spent struggling against illness in the unforgiving deserts of Arabia. As he lay in his tent, "suffering a bodily weakness which made my animal self crawl away and hide till the shame was passed," the man known later as "Lawrence of Arabia" began to appraise the dynamics of the Arab revolt against the Ottoman Turks – breaking down his ideas of guerrilla warfare into a concept that pitted two opposing forces head-on.
The lessons of the Arab revolt, which Lawrence helped start in 1916, continue to reverberate today.
For Lawrence, who died 75 years ago last month, the Turks "were like plants, immobile, firm-rooted, nourished through long-stems to the head," and his own band of Arab irregulars were "an influence, an idea … drifting about like a gas … a vapour blowing where we listed."
In just two years, this perceptive vision of warfare would hand Lawrence a stunning victory.
Ninety-four years may have passed since the British intelligence officer put into practice his theories of campaigning in Arabia, but as the United States pursues its campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, it is to Lawrence that some of its leading military thinkers turn for inspiration and guidance.
"What Lawrence gave us was an appreciation of how difficult the task is in understanding that we have to work through our local allies," says John Nagl, president of the Center for a New American Security, and a coauthor of the 2006 US Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual, which incorporates some of Lawrence's writings. "And also a sense of the independence of thought and action that is required both for good insurgent leaders and, in many cases, for good counterinsurgency leaders."
Lawrence on the syllabusIn Britain, the land of his birth, Lawrence is still revered, a man whose reputation as the force who galvanized the Arabs and propelled them to victory was undoubtedly enhanced (and some say grossly exaggerated) by the 1962 epic film "Lawrence of Arabia."
But observers like Dr. Nagl see him as more than a romantic figure from a vanished age. The counterinsurgency (COIN) manual that Nagl co-wrote in response to the insurgency that threatened America's early occupation of Iraq cites Lawrence's famed 27 Articles, penned in 1917 as a brief cultural guide for British officers working with Arabs, alongside the work of other notable military theorists such as David Galula, the French counterinsurgent who fought in Algeria.
At the US Army Command and General Staff College in Fort Leavenworth, Kan., Lawrence is on the syllabus. "I've been introduced to Lawrence's 27 Articles a few times in my Army career," says Maj. Mike Gorreck, who served as an Iraq police adviser in 2007-08 and is now studying at Leavenworth. "We've done further reading in my course of some of his other work within 'Seven Pillars of Wisdom.' One chapter – Chapter 33 – is particularly impressive, and it gets you to think about one's own thinking, about other countries and other armies that are foreign to us, how they see themselves, how they see us. And Lawrence provides a great narration of all that."
Gorreck also flags the 15th of the 27 Articles, which begins, "Do not try to do too much with your own hands. Better the Arabs do it tolerably than that you do it perfectly" – as particularly pertinent. Gorreck said that taught him to step back and look on Iraq as a country with "problems that were inherently theirs, and which they had to get through in their own way."
Patron saint of US Army advisersFor Nagl, a veteran of both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Desert Storm, Lawrence's writings are a valuable component of modern COIN literature, albeit a bit out of step.
"Lawrence is one of very few insurgent leaders who survived to tell the tale. Most insurgents don't succeed, and many also tend not to be literate, but Lawrence was an extraordinarily literate and successful insurgent leader. The biggest disadvantage, of course, was that Lawrence was an insurgent – not a counterinsurgent. He does not break down how to defeat an army that fights as he recommends – as his insurgents fought – like a 'vapor.' "
Maj. Niel Smith, operations officer for the US Army and Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Center from 2007 to 2009, says care is needed when applying Lawrence's lessons to today's Middle East.
"The temptation is reading too much into Lawrence's characterization of Bedouin Arabs in World War I. He was dealing with a specific subset of Arab culture at a specific time, which has changed immensely. But T.E. Lawrence has in some ways become the patron saint of the US Army advisory effort in Afghanistan and Iraq.
"I think there are many more examples of effective advisers in military history, but none as influential," Smith continues. "There are many stories of effective advisers in Vietnam, such as John Paul Vann. However, none have quite the dramatic scope of Lawrence's experience in Arabia."
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The lessons of the Arab revolt, which Lawrence helped start in 1916, continue to reverberate today.
For Lawrence, who died 75 years ago last month, the Turks "were like plants, immobile, firm-rooted, nourished through long-stems to the head," and his own band of Arab irregulars were "an influence, an idea … drifting about like a gas … a vapour blowing where we listed."
In just two years, this perceptive vision of warfare would hand Lawrence a stunning victory.
Ninety-four years may have passed since the British intelligence officer put into practice his theories of campaigning in Arabia, but as the United States pursues its campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, it is to Lawrence that some of its leading military thinkers turn for inspiration and guidance.
"What Lawrence gave us was an appreciation of how difficult the task is in understanding that we have to work through our local allies," says John Nagl, president of the Center for a New American Security, and a coauthor of the 2006 US Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual, which incorporates some of Lawrence's writings. "And also a sense of the independence of thought and action that is required both for good insurgent leaders and, in many cases, for good counterinsurgency leaders."
Lawrence on the syllabusIn Britain, the land of his birth, Lawrence is still revered, a man whose reputation as the force who galvanized the Arabs and propelled them to victory was undoubtedly enhanced (and some say grossly exaggerated) by the 1962 epic film "Lawrence of Arabia."
But observers like Dr. Nagl see him as more than a romantic figure from a vanished age. The counterinsurgency (COIN) manual that Nagl co-wrote in response to the insurgency that threatened America's early occupation of Iraq cites Lawrence's famed 27 Articles, penned in 1917 as a brief cultural guide for British officers working with Arabs, alongside the work of other notable military theorists such as David Galula, the French counterinsurgent who fought in Algeria.
At the US Army Command and General Staff College in Fort Leavenworth, Kan., Lawrence is on the syllabus. "I've been introduced to Lawrence's 27 Articles a few times in my Army career," says Maj. Mike Gorreck, who served as an Iraq police adviser in 2007-08 and is now studying at Leavenworth. "We've done further reading in my course of some of his other work within 'Seven Pillars of Wisdom.' One chapter – Chapter 33 – is particularly impressive, and it gets you to think about one's own thinking, about other countries and other armies that are foreign to us, how they see themselves, how they see us. And Lawrence provides a great narration of all that."
Gorreck also flags the 15th of the 27 Articles, which begins, "Do not try to do too much with your own hands. Better the Arabs do it tolerably than that you do it perfectly" – as particularly pertinent. Gorreck said that taught him to step back and look on Iraq as a country with "problems that were inherently theirs, and which they had to get through in their own way."
Patron saint of US Army advisersFor Nagl, a veteran of both Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Desert Storm, Lawrence's writings are a valuable component of modern COIN literature, albeit a bit out of step.
"Lawrence is one of very few insurgent leaders who survived to tell the tale. Most insurgents don't succeed, and many also tend not to be literate, but Lawrence was an extraordinarily literate and successful insurgent leader. The biggest disadvantage, of course, was that Lawrence was an insurgent – not a counterinsurgent. He does not break down how to defeat an army that fights as he recommends – as his insurgents fought – like a 'vapor.' "
Maj. Niel Smith, operations officer for the US Army and Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Center from 2007 to 2009, says care is needed when applying Lawrence's lessons to today's Middle East.
"The temptation is reading too much into Lawrence's characterization of Bedouin Arabs in World War I. He was dealing with a specific subset of Arab culture at a specific time, which has changed immensely. But T.E. Lawrence has in some ways become the patron saint of the US Army advisory effort in Afghanistan and Iraq.
"I think there are many more examples of effective advisers in military history, but none as influential," Smith continues. "There are many stories of effective advisers in Vietnam, such as John Paul Vann. However, none have quite the dramatic scope of Lawrence's experience in Arabia."
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I saw the A Team the other day it is actually a good summer action film. Crazy fun.
Salt may be the next good movie coming out, Knight & Day honestly I can't stand either of the leads.
Salt may be the next good movie coming out, Knight & Day honestly I can't stand either of the leads.
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Beeeeeeeeeeee g thank you so much again I enjoy the forumn bantering/contributing... Omega will follow your lead and see the "Team"............ waiting for Salt and a rainy day film in which if I may steal a Doris Day line K- sir- a -, sir ra....... ( Knight and Day) .................
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The man behind Chase Vodka and Tyrrells Potato Chips has reportedly approached one of the 23rd James Bond film’s co-producers, Barbara Broccoli, with a suggestion or two.
William Chase hopes to help resolve some funding issues which have plagued EON Productions with regular backers, MGM, in a financial slump and close to bankruptcy.
The approach, the Telegraph reports, has not been declined (or denied) by anyone at EON, but it make take more than one millionaire to selvage 007. Nevertheless, once there is one new backer, others might follow suit. Fans should remember though, MGM owns a share of James Bond, and so no production (under the current arrangement) will go ahead without the big cat’s say so.
William Chase hopes to help resolve some funding issues which have plagued EON Productions with regular backers, MGM, in a financial slump and close to bankruptcy.
The approach, the Telegraph reports, has not been declined (or denied) by anyone at EON, but it make take more than one millionaire to selvage 007. Nevertheless, once there is one new backer, others might follow suit. Fans should remember though, MGM owns a share of James Bond, and so no production (under the current arrangement) will go ahead without the big cat’s say so.
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Can we all chip in a dollar and assist....... but only if a "new Bond" is made available????????
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On April 19, 2010, the producers announced that production had been suspended indefinitely, pending the settlement of MGM's financial woes. MGM, which is in severe financial trouble and is seeking to be purchased by another company, has a 50% financial stake in EON (the company that produces the Bond films), meaning that EON is currently unable to produce a Bond film independently of MGM. Whether MGM sells off or continues to use Bond as a bargaining chip in purchase negotiations remains to be seen.
Unless things are settled quickly, it likely means the projected 2011 release date will be delayed. (Recent shakeups at MGM, and the continued delay, has led to fan speculation that the next film may not come out until 2013, although that could prove to be incorrect.) A lengthy delay could bring about more changes in the cast and crew. In the meantime, all fans can do is wait.
Has the series come to an end because of the suspension?
EditHistoryDelete It is highly unlikely the series has ended. The consensus of industry observers and analysts is that another Bond film will be made, but it's just a question of when. The Bond series remains popular and iconic in popular culture worldwide, not to mention highly profitable. No Bond film has ever failed at the box office. It is almost guaranteed that the series will continue once the current situation is resolved.
What is the title? Plot? Where will it be filmed?
EditHistoryDelete No official announcements or statements have been made regarding the film's content. All "reports" so far are merely speculation and rumor, especially now, given the film's suspended status.
While an early report said that New York was being considered as a location, that is far from final. EON considered setting "Casino Royale" in India, and then were set to film it in South Africa, before settling on the Czech Republic. There were plans to have "Quantum of Solace" partly set in Switzerland, but those were cancelled when the film went into production. Early plans can change, and often do.
The possibility of a New York location led some to speculate that the film would be based on the Fleming short story "OO7 in New York." However, that is only speculation, and the story in question is a brief, slightly comedic travel piece with minimal plot; most fans do not consider it a viable basis for a feature film. It is also worth noting that recently, producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli have indicated that the Bond films will have original plots for the foreseeable future.
As far as titles go, there has been no concrete news. There has much speculation that EON will choose an unused Fleming short-story title (the remaining titles are "The Property of a Lady," "Risico," "The Hildebrand Rarity" and "OO7 in New York") or perhaps borrow a phrase or chapter heading from one of the Fleming Bond novels. It is also possible that an original title may be chosen. Various titles are bound to be reported in various media sources, but until an official announcement is made, speculation and rumor will abound. It is also possible that a title announcement may be very late; the title for the last film, "Quantum of Solace," was not settled and announced until the film was already shooting.
In January of 2010, a tabloid quoted an unnamed source who claimed that the producers were contemplating making Bond 23 in 3-D. That report has not been confirmed.
Who has been cast?
EditHistoryDelete At present, the best answer is "Almost nobody." Given the film's current status of "indefinitely suspended," it is safe to assume that no casting is taking place and that nobody has signed.
It is known that Daniel Craig and Judi Dench are both under contract, and Craig has voiced his eagerness to return to the Bond role once matters are settled. Also, Jesper Christensen has announced that he will not be returning as Mr. White. Aside from that, it's nothing but rumors and speculation.
There have been a number of rumors that various actors have been cast or are being "considered," but most of them have turned out to be false or unconfirmed. False casting rumors include Brendan Fraser, Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie, Frieda Pinto (who recently denied the rumors), Megan Fox, Michael Sheen, Goran Visnjic, Olivia Wilde, and Jamie Bell (which turned out to be a hoax on the part of some fans that found its way to the British tabloid "The Sun"). On March 29, 2010, a rumor arose that Rachel Weisz would play the main villain; however, it has not been confirmed or denied.
The effect of the indefinite suspension (as of 4/19/10) on any possible casting remains to be seen. It is likely that any casting has been suspended (if indeed any has taken place at all), and depending on the length of the delay, and given the uncertain nature of the film's status, actors previously attached to the film (if any) may move on to other projects. At present (mid-June 2010) there is no sign of the film getting moving again, and it's a safe bet that aside from Craig and Dench, any casting decisions that have been made (if any) are effectively nullified.
Who is writing the script?
EditHistoryDelete Bond veterans Neil Purvis and Robert Wade have worked on the script, joined by acclaimed screenwriter Peter Morgan, who at one point gave a statement to the press that Bond 23 would have a "shocking story." However, in April 2010, a rumor arose that Morgan is off the project and will be replaced by playwright Patrick Marber. The truth of this rumor has not been determined.
The effect of the current "indefinite suspension" on the screenwriters and script remains to be seen.
Who is the bond girl?
EditHistoryDelete Nothing is confirmed, although various names (like Jennifer Aniston, Megan Fox, Angelina Jolie, Olivia Wilde, and Freida Pinto) have come up in tabloids and internet gossip. Pinto has denied the rumors, but the rest remain unconfirmed rumors.
Who is directing Bond 23?
EditHistoryDelete At present, no director has been officially announced. Marc Forster (who directed the last Bond film, "Quantum of Solace") made it clear he would not return. In early 2009, it was rumored that Danny Boyle had been hired to direct Bond 23, but later Boyle himself said it was untrue, but did express fondness for the Bond series.
In early 2010, various sources reported that Oscar-winning director Sam Mendes was in negotiations to be hired as "a consultant with an eye to direct." However, in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, published on 1/15/10, Mendes dismissed the reports as "speculation," and an assistant told the press that Mendes had many projects on the table and this was only one possibility. In April 2010, Mendes dropped out of the film "Preacher," to which he had been attached to direct, and sources claimed it was because of his commitment to Bond 23. A story in The Telegraph on 4/10/10 claimed that Mendes had definitively signed to direct, although the story's sources have been called into question.
However, following the announcement on 4/19/10 that production of Bond 23 had been indefinitely suspended, reports quickly arose that Mendes had left Bond 23 for another project, but again, the sources are questionable and nothing has been confirmed one way or the other. (Given the uncertain nature of Bond 23's status, it would not be surprising for anyone previously attached to leave for available work elsewhere while things are being settled.)
It is unlikely that an official announcement will be made until the EON/MGM situation is resolved, and there is no reliable timetable for that.
When will they start working on Bond 23?
EditHistoryDelete On 4/19/10, it was announced that production had been suspended indefinitely, pending resolution of MGM's financial woes. At present there is no projected date for start of production or release.
Does this film follow the same story as Bond 22 (is it a direct follow on - Part 2)?
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The next James Bond movie won't be a continuation of "Quantum of Solace" or so claimed two-time Bond depicter, Daniel Craig. Addressing the future of James Bond movie, Craig slammed down the speculation that "Bond 23" would be part of a trilogy. "No f--king way," he said to Collider at "Defiance" press day. "I'm done with that story. I want to lie on a beach for the first half an hour of the next movie drinking a cocktail."
Explaining further, the 40-year-old actor insisted, "We've finished this story as far as I'm concerned. We've got a great set of bad guys. There is an organization that we can use whenever we want to. The relationship between Bond and M is secure and Felix is secure." He then added on where he would like to see the franchise is moving on, stating, "Let's try and find where Moneypenny came from and where Q comes from. Let's do all that and have some fun with it."
Unless things are settled quickly, it likely means the projected 2011 release date will be delayed. (Recent shakeups at MGM, and the continued delay, has led to fan speculation that the next film may not come out until 2013, although that could prove to be incorrect.) A lengthy delay could bring about more changes in the cast and crew. In the meantime, all fans can do is wait.
Has the series come to an end because of the suspension?
EditHistoryDelete It is highly unlikely the series has ended. The consensus of industry observers and analysts is that another Bond film will be made, but it's just a question of when. The Bond series remains popular and iconic in popular culture worldwide, not to mention highly profitable. No Bond film has ever failed at the box office. It is almost guaranteed that the series will continue once the current situation is resolved.
What is the title? Plot? Where will it be filmed?
EditHistoryDelete No official announcements or statements have been made regarding the film's content. All "reports" so far are merely speculation and rumor, especially now, given the film's suspended status.
While an early report said that New York was being considered as a location, that is far from final. EON considered setting "Casino Royale" in India, and then were set to film it in South Africa, before settling on the Czech Republic. There were plans to have "Quantum of Solace" partly set in Switzerland, but those were cancelled when the film went into production. Early plans can change, and often do.
The possibility of a New York location led some to speculate that the film would be based on the Fleming short story "OO7 in New York." However, that is only speculation, and the story in question is a brief, slightly comedic travel piece with minimal plot; most fans do not consider it a viable basis for a feature film. It is also worth noting that recently, producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli have indicated that the Bond films will have original plots for the foreseeable future.
As far as titles go, there has been no concrete news. There has much speculation that EON will choose an unused Fleming short-story title (the remaining titles are "The Property of a Lady," "Risico," "The Hildebrand Rarity" and "OO7 in New York") or perhaps borrow a phrase or chapter heading from one of the Fleming Bond novels. It is also possible that an original title may be chosen. Various titles are bound to be reported in various media sources, but until an official announcement is made, speculation and rumor will abound. It is also possible that a title announcement may be very late; the title for the last film, "Quantum of Solace," was not settled and announced until the film was already shooting.
In January of 2010, a tabloid quoted an unnamed source who claimed that the producers were contemplating making Bond 23 in 3-D. That report has not been confirmed.
Who has been cast?
EditHistoryDelete At present, the best answer is "Almost nobody." Given the film's current status of "indefinitely suspended," it is safe to assume that no casting is taking place and that nobody has signed.
It is known that Daniel Craig and Judi Dench are both under contract, and Craig has voiced his eagerness to return to the Bond role once matters are settled. Also, Jesper Christensen has announced that he will not be returning as Mr. White. Aside from that, it's nothing but rumors and speculation.
There have been a number of rumors that various actors have been cast or are being "considered," but most of them have turned out to be false or unconfirmed. False casting rumors include Brendan Fraser, Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie, Frieda Pinto (who recently denied the rumors), Megan Fox, Michael Sheen, Goran Visnjic, Olivia Wilde, and Jamie Bell (which turned out to be a hoax on the part of some fans that found its way to the British tabloid "The Sun"). On March 29, 2010, a rumor arose that Rachel Weisz would play the main villain; however, it has not been confirmed or denied.
The effect of the indefinite suspension (as of 4/19/10) on any possible casting remains to be seen. It is likely that any casting has been suspended (if indeed any has taken place at all), and depending on the length of the delay, and given the uncertain nature of the film's status, actors previously attached to the film (if any) may move on to other projects. At present (mid-June 2010) there is no sign of the film getting moving again, and it's a safe bet that aside from Craig and Dench, any casting decisions that have been made (if any) are effectively nullified.
Who is writing the script?
EditHistoryDelete Bond veterans Neil Purvis and Robert Wade have worked on the script, joined by acclaimed screenwriter Peter Morgan, who at one point gave a statement to the press that Bond 23 would have a "shocking story." However, in April 2010, a rumor arose that Morgan is off the project and will be replaced by playwright Patrick Marber. The truth of this rumor has not been determined.
The effect of the current "indefinite suspension" on the screenwriters and script remains to be seen.
Who is the bond girl?
EditHistoryDelete Nothing is confirmed, although various names (like Jennifer Aniston, Megan Fox, Angelina Jolie, Olivia Wilde, and Freida Pinto) have come up in tabloids and internet gossip. Pinto has denied the rumors, but the rest remain unconfirmed rumors.
Who is directing Bond 23?
EditHistoryDelete At present, no director has been officially announced. Marc Forster (who directed the last Bond film, "Quantum of Solace") made it clear he would not return. In early 2009, it was rumored that Danny Boyle had been hired to direct Bond 23, but later Boyle himself said it was untrue, but did express fondness for the Bond series.
In early 2010, various sources reported that Oscar-winning director Sam Mendes was in negotiations to be hired as "a consultant with an eye to direct." However, in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, published on 1/15/10, Mendes dismissed the reports as "speculation," and an assistant told the press that Mendes had many projects on the table and this was only one possibility. In April 2010, Mendes dropped out of the film "Preacher," to which he had been attached to direct, and sources claimed it was because of his commitment to Bond 23. A story in The Telegraph on 4/10/10 claimed that Mendes had definitively signed to direct, although the story's sources have been called into question.
However, following the announcement on 4/19/10 that production of Bond 23 had been indefinitely suspended, reports quickly arose that Mendes had left Bond 23 for another project, but again, the sources are questionable and nothing has been confirmed one way or the other. (Given the uncertain nature of Bond 23's status, it would not be surprising for anyone previously attached to leave for available work elsewhere while things are being settled.)
It is unlikely that an official announcement will be made until the EON/MGM situation is resolved, and there is no reliable timetable for that.
When will they start working on Bond 23?
EditHistoryDelete On 4/19/10, it was announced that production had been suspended indefinitely, pending resolution of MGM's financial woes. At present there is no projected date for start of production or release.
Does this film follow the same story as Bond 22 (is it a direct follow on - Part 2)?
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The next James Bond movie won't be a continuation of "Quantum of Solace" or so claimed two-time Bond depicter, Daniel Craig. Addressing the future of James Bond movie, Craig slammed down the speculation that "Bond 23" would be part of a trilogy. "No f--king way," he said to Collider at "Defiance" press day. "I'm done with that story. I want to lie on a beach for the first half an hour of the next movie drinking a cocktail."
Explaining further, the 40-year-old actor insisted, "We've finished this story as far as I'm concerned. We've got a great set of bad guys. There is an organization that we can use whenever we want to. The relationship between Bond and M is secure and Felix is secure." He then added on where he would like to see the franchise is moving on, stating, "Let's try and find where Moneypenny came from and where Q comes from. Let's do all that and have some fun with it."
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Was 'Goldfinger' Sequence Inspired By Wartime MI6 Operation?
Evidence has emerged that the pre-credits sequence in the film 'Goldfinger' (1964) may have been inspired by a real-life operation carried out by MI6 during World War Two. In the famous sequence, Sean Connery's 007 emerges from the water in his wetsuit, infiltrates what appears to be a secret heroin-manufacturing base somewhere in Latin America, and plants explosives. He then coolly unzips his wetsuit to reveal a tuxedo and walks into a bar to wait for the inevitable results of his handiwork.
According to the 'Sunday Telegraph' (April 18th), British spy author Jeremy Duns has put forward the theory that this sequence may have been inspired by an actual operation carried out by MI6, the Secret Intelligence Service , and was later written into the screenplay for the third James Bond film by Manchester-born scripwriter Paul Dehn (1912-1976), a former senior intelligence officer. Dehn had been brought in by EON to work on and polish the screenplay originally written by Richard Maibaum.
Dens argues that a Dutch spy, Peter Tazelaar, used what the Telegraph calls 'an almost identical technique' to get into the Nazi-occupied Netherlands. Tazelaar was under instructions from the exiled Dutch Queen, Wilhelmina, to get into the country in order to extract two Dutch men so that they could join the Dutch wartime government-in-exile in the UK.
The daring plan involved slipping into the Palace Hotel, located in the seaside resort of Scheveningen, which had become a German Headquarters. Every Friday night the HQ apparently saw boisterous parties, and so Tazelaar and his two fellow agents saw an opportunity to approach the location in darkness by boat and, once there, Tazelaar could strip off his outfit and enter the HQ dressed in his evening clothes, posing as one of the drunken partygoers.
The operation proved difficult to carry out due to adverse weather conditions, and although Tazelaar managed to get past the sentries, he was ultimately unable to extract the two men he had been sent to rescue. The operation, however, became something of a cause celebre in British Intelligence circles.
Duns believes that Paul Dehn (pronounced 'Dane') would have been aware of the wartime operation 'and decided to use it in his screenplay'. Moreover, the author of a biography of Tazelaar, Victor Laurentius, claims that, like James Bond, the Dutch spy was something of a daredevil who spent a lot of time during his missions in casinos and other places frequented by German officers.
Jeremy Duns is rapidly carving out a reputation as one of the leading researchers on the intriguing world of Ian Fleming and James Bond. In recent months he has produced new research on a lost screenplay that was based on Fleming's 'The Diamond Smugglers', has written an essay on 'The Secret Origins of James Bond', and has presented new material on the possible real-life influences behind Fleming's creation of SMERSH operative Rosa Klebb.
Evidence has emerged that the pre-credits sequence in the film 'Goldfinger' (1964) may have been inspired by a real-life operation carried out by MI6 during World War Two. In the famous sequence, Sean Connery's 007 emerges from the water in his wetsuit, infiltrates what appears to be a secret heroin-manufacturing base somewhere in Latin America, and plants explosives. He then coolly unzips his wetsuit to reveal a tuxedo and walks into a bar to wait for the inevitable results of his handiwork.
According to the 'Sunday Telegraph' (April 18th), British spy author Jeremy Duns has put forward the theory that this sequence may have been inspired by an actual operation carried out by MI6, the Secret Intelligence Service , and was later written into the screenplay for the third James Bond film by Manchester-born scripwriter Paul Dehn (1912-1976), a former senior intelligence officer. Dehn had been brought in by EON to work on and polish the screenplay originally written by Richard Maibaum.
Dens argues that a Dutch spy, Peter Tazelaar, used what the Telegraph calls 'an almost identical technique' to get into the Nazi-occupied Netherlands. Tazelaar was under instructions from the exiled Dutch Queen, Wilhelmina, to get into the country in order to extract two Dutch men so that they could join the Dutch wartime government-in-exile in the UK.
The daring plan involved slipping into the Palace Hotel, located in the seaside resort of Scheveningen, which had become a German Headquarters. Every Friday night the HQ apparently saw boisterous parties, and so Tazelaar and his two fellow agents saw an opportunity to approach the location in darkness by boat and, once there, Tazelaar could strip off his outfit and enter the HQ dressed in his evening clothes, posing as one of the drunken partygoers.
The operation proved difficult to carry out due to adverse weather conditions, and although Tazelaar managed to get past the sentries, he was ultimately unable to extract the two men he had been sent to rescue. The operation, however, became something of a cause celebre in British Intelligence circles.
Duns believes that Paul Dehn (pronounced 'Dane') would have been aware of the wartime operation 'and decided to use it in his screenplay'. Moreover, the author of a biography of Tazelaar, Victor Laurentius, claims that, like James Bond, the Dutch spy was something of a daredevil who spent a lot of time during his missions in casinos and other places frequented by German officers.
Jeremy Duns is rapidly carving out a reputation as one of the leading researchers on the intriguing world of Ian Fleming and James Bond. In recent months he has produced new research on a lost screenplay that was based on Fleming's 'The Diamond Smugglers', has written an essay on 'The Secret Origins of James Bond', and has presented new material on the possible real-life influences behind Fleming's creation of SMERSH operative Rosa Klebb.
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Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......
Dame Judi Dench has offered news-thirsty Bond fans some interesting comments on Bond 23 in recent days. Dame Judi, who has played Bond's authoritative boss 'M' since 'Goldeneye' in 1995, confirmed her involvement in the next Craig Bond thriller and also offered some views on possible candidates for roles.
Echoing recent comments by Daniel Craig that Bond 23 will start filming in late 2010 for a year 2011 release, Dench told MTV News: 'I think I'm going to be needed in the Spring of 2011. That's a message I got'. She added: 'It would mean I could do something at the end of next year, something else, maybe in the theatre'.
Moreover, 'Mandrake', a columnist for the UK's Daily Telegraph newspaper, reported on 4 December that the Oscar-winning actress had told him that she was keen to help her fellow English actress Emma Thompson achieve her stated ambition to play a 'baddie' in the next Bond film: 'It's such a good idea', Dame Judy told Mandrake at the premiere of her latest film, the musical 'Nine', at London's Odeon Leicester Square: 'I'd give her a hard time'. Dench said if a role could be found for Thompson 'it would be very nice'.
As the Fan Club revealed in early November, and again in our recent newsletter, Thompson first publicly voiced her Bond villain ambitions at the London Film Festival in October, telling one newspaper that she had been lobbying Barbara Broccoli for a part as a 'proper villain', and would like to 'explore more of a dark side' to her acting career.
Dench Now A National Treasure?
In a sense, although she hates the term, Dench has become something of a national treasure in Britain, and remains especially proud of her role as MI6 boss 'M' in the 007 series. Dame Judi also remains high in demand in both the screen and theatre worlds. The 74-year old has recently been involved in new filming for the BBC's period drama 'Cranford', returning to her role of Miss Matty, first seen in the Bafta-award winning series in 2007. The two new episodes will be screened this coming Christmas. In comments carried in the UK's Daily Express recently, Dame Judi said she admired the community values on dsiplay in the Cheshire village featured in the BBC drama: 'Although the characters have shifted subtly the relationship and sense of community at the heart of Cranford remains the same', she said.
Dame Judy also remains very committed to the British theatre, including encouraging new theatre ventures outside central London. When it was announced recently that she would star in a new production directed by Sir Peter Hall at the Rose Theatre in Kingston, Surrey, the tickets sold out in hours.
Dame Judi first helped Kingston's Rose in December, 2004, when she starred in 'Judi Dench and Friends', a one evening money-raising gala to give the cash-strapped Rose a helping hand. Dench recruited fellow Brosnan-era Bond stars Samantha Bond and Colin Salmon to perform excerpts from Shakespeare, T.S. Eliot and Chekhov.
Julian Glover (lead villain in 'For Your Eyes Only') and Charles Dance (who briefly appeared in the same film and once also played Bond author Ian Fleming for Anglia TV) also contributed to the night's proceedings, which was a smash success.
The Judi Dench Factor
Sometimes the fact that Dame Judi is held in such high esteem can lead to controversy. According the British Board of Film Censors (BBFC), 'Quantum of Solace' prompted some complaints from the British public about bad language because of the 'Judi Dench Factor'. Dench apparently prompts complaints every time she swears in a film, no matter what rating it is given by the BBFC. 'Quantum', which was rated 12A in the UK, prompted complaints about the film's language from a few over-sensitive viewers. The BBFC's annual report recently said: 'This beloved actress plays M, Bond's tough-talking boss. However, it was her tough talking which upset the viewers'.
But this was probably music to Dench's ears. She remains determined not to be stereo-typed, is keen to take risks, and likes to take on experimental and unusual roles in her screen career, trying to constantly surprise her fans. A good example is 'Rage', a project that features 14 actors playing fictional characters in the fashion world, who all deliver monologues before a plain backdrop. Dench plays Mona Carvell, a fashion critic who is tough but sour, and calls fashion 'pornography' instead of art. It's a particularly powerful performance, with Dench's wide acting range in evidence.
Dench recently told a British newspaper she remains a workaholic, that work makes her happy, and she has no plans for retirement. The very idea is anathema.
Echoing recent comments by Daniel Craig that Bond 23 will start filming in late 2010 for a year 2011 release, Dench told MTV News: 'I think I'm going to be needed in the Spring of 2011. That's a message I got'. She added: 'It would mean I could do something at the end of next year, something else, maybe in the theatre'.
Moreover, 'Mandrake', a columnist for the UK's Daily Telegraph newspaper, reported on 4 December that the Oscar-winning actress had told him that she was keen to help her fellow English actress Emma Thompson achieve her stated ambition to play a 'baddie' in the next Bond film: 'It's such a good idea', Dame Judy told Mandrake at the premiere of her latest film, the musical 'Nine', at London's Odeon Leicester Square: 'I'd give her a hard time'. Dench said if a role could be found for Thompson 'it would be very nice'.
As the Fan Club revealed in early November, and again in our recent newsletter, Thompson first publicly voiced her Bond villain ambitions at the London Film Festival in October, telling one newspaper that she had been lobbying Barbara Broccoli for a part as a 'proper villain', and would like to 'explore more of a dark side' to her acting career.
Dench Now A National Treasure?
In a sense, although she hates the term, Dench has become something of a national treasure in Britain, and remains especially proud of her role as MI6 boss 'M' in the 007 series. Dame Judi also remains high in demand in both the screen and theatre worlds. The 74-year old has recently been involved in new filming for the BBC's period drama 'Cranford', returning to her role of Miss Matty, first seen in the Bafta-award winning series in 2007. The two new episodes will be screened this coming Christmas. In comments carried in the UK's Daily Express recently, Dame Judi said she admired the community values on dsiplay in the Cheshire village featured in the BBC drama: 'Although the characters have shifted subtly the relationship and sense of community at the heart of Cranford remains the same', she said.
Dame Judy also remains very committed to the British theatre, including encouraging new theatre ventures outside central London. When it was announced recently that she would star in a new production directed by Sir Peter Hall at the Rose Theatre in Kingston, Surrey, the tickets sold out in hours.
Dame Judi first helped Kingston's Rose in December, 2004, when she starred in 'Judi Dench and Friends', a one evening money-raising gala to give the cash-strapped Rose a helping hand. Dench recruited fellow Brosnan-era Bond stars Samantha Bond and Colin Salmon to perform excerpts from Shakespeare, T.S. Eliot and Chekhov.
Julian Glover (lead villain in 'For Your Eyes Only') and Charles Dance (who briefly appeared in the same film and once also played Bond author Ian Fleming for Anglia TV) also contributed to the night's proceedings, which was a smash success.
The Judi Dench Factor
Sometimes the fact that Dame Judi is held in such high esteem can lead to controversy. According the British Board of Film Censors (BBFC), 'Quantum of Solace' prompted some complaints from the British public about bad language because of the 'Judi Dench Factor'. Dench apparently prompts complaints every time she swears in a film, no matter what rating it is given by the BBFC. 'Quantum', which was rated 12A in the UK, prompted complaints about the film's language from a few over-sensitive viewers. The BBFC's annual report recently said: 'This beloved actress plays M, Bond's tough-talking boss. However, it was her tough talking which upset the viewers'.
But this was probably music to Dench's ears. She remains determined not to be stereo-typed, is keen to take risks, and likes to take on experimental and unusual roles in her screen career, trying to constantly surprise her fans. A good example is 'Rage', a project that features 14 actors playing fictional characters in the fashion world, who all deliver monologues before a plain backdrop. Dench plays Mona Carvell, a fashion critic who is tough but sour, and calls fashion 'pornography' instead of art. It's a particularly powerful performance, with Dench's wide acting range in evidence.
Dench recently told a British newspaper she remains a workaholic, that work makes her happy, and she has no plans for retirement. The very idea is anathema.
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Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......
I like Iron Man 2 better but the negative reviews are out of proportion the Team unlike QOS where a disproportionate number of critics were trying to polish that turd. If the Team bombs completely and a sequel is not made I can see it becoming a cult favorite.Harvey danish wrote:Beeeeeeeeeeee g thank you so much again I enjoy the forumn bantering/contributing... Omega will follow your lead and see the "Team"............ waiting for Salt and a rainy day film in which if I may steal a Doris Day line K- sir- a -, sir ra....... ( Knight and Day) .................
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a one hit remake......but with monolithic returns $$$ a second serving of the "Team"? well yeah, who wouldn't but my opinion........ unlikely...Those critics/ movie reviewers.. if we would all abide and follow their recommendations, no one would rent/leave the homesead to view flicks in general.
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It is actually more impressive than that, the Euro is in the process of tanking and Iron-man is doing well in those territories despite the economic problems. What we do not see is the fact that Iron-man 2 has sold a lot more tickets than Quark.Omega wrote: $597,338,077 Iron Man 2 smashes QOS record and it cost less has better writing with better casting.
A rated R Bond as a franchise should have to be compared to The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions. The Matrix 2 is a $985m movies in today's prices. However the Matrix 3's tickets numbers slipped big time (selling 21m fewer tickets than The Matrix & 53m less than Matrix 2 ), it is a $567m movie. It might have done better as a PG-13, although the consensus is Matrix 2 soured the audience. Which is the inherent danger of a movie like Quark (aka QoS). A bad outing may keep the fan base at home next time. Similar to loss between PoTC Dead Man's Chest & PoTC At Worlds End (PoTC 3 sold 23m fewer tickets).
Although the time of year can be considered however with franchises like these the point is moot.
Pirates 4 would regain the lost ground with a 4th outing retooled with a well advertised new story line. A Matrix continuation would necessarily be a reboot. The problem a actor like Craig is he is no Sean Connery, he lacks the personal charm to wow an audience no matter how mediocre the material. Brozza did to an extent. His outings kept audience attendance up, fluctuating only about 4-5m from his high with GE, but usually gaining 2m each movie. This is very strong performance against historic record setting competition.
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Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......
DCiNBers, do you think the considerable amount of time between Quantum of Solace and the next film, the continual loss of momentum for the franchise, and Craig's sagging approval will lead to a disappointing box office for Bond 23?Mazer Rackham wrote: The problem a actor like Craig is he is no Sean Connery, he lacks the personal charm to wow an audience no matter how mediocre the material.
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I don't know.. I think Craig's declining popularity, plus his ability to age
may be a factor. But there will be diehards that say he's still good for the role, even if he stays for Bond 24, in which case we may have a Roger Moore situation on our hands!
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Depends on a lot on circumstances of times when it eventually comes out. Will it be 3D with those inflated prices? It certainly helped Toy Story 3, although digital medium does lend itself to 3D rendering exquisitely.Bond77 wrote:DCiNBers, do you think the considerable amount of time between Quantum of Solace and the next film, the continual loss of momentum for the franchise, and Craig's sagging approval will lead to a disappointing box office for Bond 23?Mazer Rackham wrote: The problem a actor like Craig is he is no Sean Connery, he lacks the personal charm to wow an audience no matter how mediocre the material.
Craig lost 10m viewers and another 6m or 7m in DVD sales. A lot of momentum has been lost, it might be possible to bring some of it back although the feel is that we have seen what he is going to do with the role and it isn't all that interesting. However Bond has always reinvigorated itself by recasting and there will be some pressure to do just that and change direction to more sustainable arc. Always cheaper to recast as well.
A recast Bond 23 I think will do better than bringing Craig back, certain stars have the appeal do do well multiple outings, Craig has one trick and he played it they have to reinvent him and how he approaches the role and that a questionable experiment do try midstream. It could have worked with Connery and if Brozza had got his wish it might have done alright. Craig now has to trying to dial in some Roger Moore from all they were talking about for the next outing. Safer course would be to stay in Cro-Magnon mode if Craig decides he has to have that pay check.
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Mazer Rackham wrote: A recast Bond 23 I think will do better than bringing Craig back, certain stars have the appeal do do well multiple outings, Craig has one trick and he played it they have to reinvent him and how he approaches the role and that a questionable experiment do try midstream.
I agree with you. I think a recast is certainly in order for a host of reasons, but one of them being the long period between outings. There is going to be no momentum for the release of this film. Most moviegoers are going to be saying, "This blond guy again?" I could see this being a potential disaster.
Mazer Rackham wrote: It could have worked with Connery and if Brozza had got his wish it might have done alright.
It worked for Roger Moore. After an unusual three year lag, Moore returned in TSWLM adding a lighter touch to the role. He wasn't slapping around Maud Adams, or trying to be Dirty Harry carrying around that Magnum anymore. He was more refined; more "British" as Lewis Gilbert put it.
I don't see Craig being able to lighten up, so to speak. I see him capable of becoming darker and showing more of an edge, but that won't work for the majority of moviegoers who expect more of a "tongue in cheek" portrayal of 007. Craig lacks the ability to "dial in Roger Moore", or any actor for that matter that has any grace or charm. Connery at his grittiest still had a grace about him, but Craig does not. Thus, leading to the caveman approach you wisely pointed out as being the only alternative. That doesn't make Craig a bad actor; just wrong for the role of James Bond, but most of us new that anyway.Mazer Rackham wrote: Craig now has to trying to dial in some Roger Moore from all they were talking about for the next outing. Safer course would be to stay in Cro-Magnon mode if Craig decides he has to have that pay check.