Official QOS prediction thread

[Mazer Rackham]

If there hadn't been such arrogant, bold, nasty statements galore on here in the first place, I probably wouldn't feel the need to rub it in peoples noses a bit with what is actually happening now at the BO.

Talking about yourself there are ya mate?

Evey Bond since Brozza has cleared at least 500m by today's standards. (Yes, I know that in Brozzs case the take could be more because of certain currency issues.. in some cases. But lets avoid getting mired in the minutia. for now.) Quark is struggling right now and is going to bottom out in the next week or two.

I ought to put up the reviewers that said Quark would make money even though it didn't deserve to.

[katied]

I changed my mind a little..I don't want it to fail...but QOS has some competition..Bolt, the crappy vampire movie and Four Christmases just this past weekend.

[The Sweeney]

If there hadn't been such arrogant, bold, nasty statements galore on here in the first place, I probably wouldn't feel the need to rub it in peoples noses a bit with what is actually happening now at the BO.

Talking about yourself there are ya mate?

Evey Bond since Brozza has cleared at least 500m by today's standards. (Yes, I know that in Brozzs case the take could be more because of certain currency issues.. in some cases. But lets avoid getting mired in the minutia. for now.) Quark is struggling right now and is going to bottom out in the next week or two.

I ought to put up the reviewers that said Quark would make money even though it didn't deserve to.

I still don't think this will bottom out, even if the film itself is getting bad word of mouth. I can see it sustaining longer yet.

I just hope that if this exceeds CR at the BO (which it probably will) that EON think don't this is the right way to go for Bond 23. I hope they've taken note of the many negative reviews out there....

[Skywalker]

I just hope that if this exceeds CR at the BO (which it probably will) that EON think don't this is the right way to go for Bond 23. I hope they've taken note of the many negative reviews out there....

Agreed.

Hopefully the throwing away of Vesper's chain at the end will see Bond lighten up a bit in the next one.

[English Agent]

If there hadn't been such arrogant, bold, nasty statements galore on here in the first place, I probably wouldn't feel the need to rub it in peoples noses a bit with what is actually happening now at the BO.

Talking about yourself there are ya mate?

Evey Bond since Brozza has cleared at least 500m by today's standards. (Yes, I know that in Brozzs case the take could be more because of certain currency issues.. in some cases. But lets avoid getting mired in the minutia. for now.) Quark is struggling right now and is going to bottom out in the next week or two.

I ought to put up the reviewers that said Quark would make money even though it didn't deserve to.

I still don't think this will bottom out, even if the film itself is getting bad word of mouth. I can see it sustaining longer yet.

I just hope that if this exceeds CR at the BO (which it probably will) that EON think don't this is the right way to go for Bond 23. I hope they've taken note of the many negative reviews out there....

I concur on both accounts!

QOS will dwindle in the next 3 weeks in the BO run to xmas, as this is the norm, but it will still be picking up decent sums of money around the globe, it should then get a tail boost over the xmas holiday and then a final notable boost from Japan towards the end of January........so there's a bit of waiting yet, to judge QOS against its predecessors!

In regards to Bond 23........as you've said, and countless others, i really hope EON take on board the fans comments, i believe they will, and will make a fresh start again with Bond 23, bringing back a more conventional style of filming, adding a bit of humour to the plot, and maybe reintroducing one or two old Bond favourite characters.
My only concern is that Bourne 4 will be out before Bond 23, and the producers maybe influenced again in that franchises direction if the film is a big hit.

EA

[Kristatos]

In regards to Bond 23........as you've said, and countless others, i really hope EON take on board the fans comments, i believe they will, and will make a fresh start again with Bond 23, bringing back a more conventional style of filming, adding a bit of humour to the plot, and maybe reintroducing one or two old Bond favourite characters.
My only concern is that Bourne 4 will be out before Bond 23, and the producers maybe influenced again in that franchises direction if the film is a big hit.

I don't think EON really cares about us Bond fans any more. They're too obsessed with chasing the younger, hipper Bourne audience.

[English Agent]

In regards to Bond 23........as you've said, and countless others, i really hope EON take on board the fans comments, i believe they will, and will make a fresh start again with Bond 23, bringing back a more conventional style of filming, adding a bit of humour to the plot, and maybe reintroducing one or two old Bond favourite characters.
My only concern is that Bourne 4 will be out before Bond 23, and the producers maybe influenced again in that franchises direction if the film is a big hit.

I don't think EON really cares about us Bond fans any more. They're too obsessed with chasing the younger, hipper Bourne audience.

You've got a very good point there 'Kris'.............as i've found that the only people who really enjoyed QOS were the younger generation, in particular they didn't find the fast cutting of the film to be that distracting, maybe it could be a result as this younger generation have been brought up to be more accustomed to this fast music, video style of filming.
Yet as a whole, people of my age (and i'am young at heart), were dismayed by the poor exection of the film.

All i want from a film is a good cohesive story, plus clear constructive, viewable action scenes. Not to much to ask for...is it?

I wonder what the the producers and the crew who made QOS really think of how there hard work finally ended up??

EA

[The Sweeney]

If I was a stunt person, I'd probably be a bit p!ssed off with seing such dangerous co-ordinated scenes being turned into something that was hard to follow on screen.

[Kristatos]

You've got a very good point there 'Kris'.............as i've found that the only people who really enjoyed QOS were the younger generation

Yeah, the 12-year-olds who post on IMDb lapped it up. So much for the "this is a Bond for grown-ups" that is usually used as a defence of Craig. But then, I was their age when I discovered Bond, so I suppose I shouldn't begrudge the torch being passed on to a new generation. I wonder if, when they're middle-aged farts like me, they'll look upon QOS the way I regard Moonraker - as a film I loved when I was a kid but find all but unwatchable now?

[The Sweeney]

You've got a very good point there 'Kris'.............as i've found that the only people who really enjoyed QOS were the younger generation

Yeah, the 12-year-olds who post on IMDb lapped it up.

I still don't think EON will be that happy with how this has been received critically, compared to the universal gushing praise that was heaped on CR (and still is, with the negative reviews of QoS).

[Kristatos]

I still don't think EON will be that happy with how this has been received critically, compared to the universal gushing praise that was heaped on CR (and still is, with the negative reviews of QoS).

As long as it makes $$$, I doubt they'll care. But then, DAD made over half a billion dollars worldwide, so maybe I'm wrong about that.

[English Agent]

I think EON will be concerned about how QOS..........has been received!

There were to many negatives on the same aspects of the film, not to of gone unnoticed.
Personally, i think after the success of CR, the producers and the studio got a little bit carried away, and thought that the franchise would be invincible, even if taken in another direction, and ditching with the usual type Bond filmakers i.e director, 2nd unit director and editors (butchers!), and trying to make a hybrid spy franchise ala James Bourne.
People love Bond films for what they are, and the same for the Bourne films, but when people go to see a Bond film they want to see a Bond film ONLY.

Plus financially, the films done very well..............but it wont be as profitable as CR. CR was a lot cheaper to make.
If you take away the main Bond fan base in each country, which gave the film such excellent first week figures, then you can see that following weeks in quite a lot of territories dropped a lot upto 60% or more, which indicates not very good word of mouth.

Basically, i dont think QOS added many new fans to the franchise, but dismayed a lot of the tradional Bond fans, and lost many of the general public who loved CR.
A step backwards!

If EON dont listen, and make Bond 23 a poorly made film.......then i will lose interest in the franchise, and will join the 'Police Academy' franchise.

EA



EA

[The Sweeney]

Good points EA.

I think QoS lost many new fans that were won over by CR, and lost many traditional die-hard fans like yourself too.....

[Kristatos]

Good points EA.

I think QoS lost many new fans that were won over by CR, and lost many traditional die-hard fans like yourself too.....

It'd be terrible if Bond 23 turned out to be really good, but people stayed away because they were put off by QOS.

[English Agent]

Good points EA.

I think QoS lost many new fans that were won over by CR, and lost many traditional die-hard fans like yourself too.....

Exactly.....if Bond 23 is a corker, then it may take a little time for the news to get around for the public to go and see it, ala CR...........while the opposite was the case for QOS..........luckily for the franchise the films initial success financially was based on the back end of the good reviews for CR.

EA

[Skywalker]

Good points EA.

I think QoS lost many new fans that were won over by CR, and lost many traditional die-hard fans like yourself too.....

Exactly.....if Bond 23 is a corker, then it may take a little time for the news to get around for the public to go and see it, ala CR...........while the opposite was the case for QOS..........luckily for the franchise the films initial success financially was based on the back end of the good reviews for CR.

EA

I think the financial success and critical acclaim achieved by CR pretty much ensured a decent turnout for QOS. As Bond fans we are more than likely to go even if the choice of lead actor is not appealing.

The marketing and build up were again impressive so the film was guarenteed a decent start.

[bjmdds]

NY magazine, a major player here, gives it a poor review in it's weekly movie assessment, calling the film almost 'incomprehensible' at times.

[The Sweeney]

I think its a given now BJ that QoS has received many a bad review. One more won't make any difference now.

The question is, will EON sit up and take notice....

[bjmdds]

Good question good buddy. Do you think they even care or are oblivious to this and arrogant that ANYTHING they do will sell?

[Kristatos]

Good question good buddy. Do you think they even care or are oblivious to this and arrogant that ANYTHING they do will sell?

On this evidence, anything they do WILL sell