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2/4 stars
OK, I'll say it. Never again. Don't ever let this happen again to James Bond. "Quantum of Solace" is his 22nd film and he will survive it, but for the 23rd it is necessary to go back to the drawing board and redesign from the ground up. Please understand: James Bond is not an action hero! He is too good for that. He is an attitude. Violence for him is an annoyance. He exists for the foreplay and the cigarette. He rarely encounters a truly evil villain. More often a comic opera buffoon with hired goons in matching jump suits.

"Quantum of Solace" has the worst title in the series save for "Never Say Never Again," words that could have been used by Kent after King Lear utters the saddest line in all of Shakespeare: "Never! Never! Never! Never! Never!" The movie opens with Bond involved in a reckless car chase on the tollway that leads through mountain tunnels from Nice through Monte Carlo and down to Portofino in Italy, where Edward Lear lies at rest with his cat, Old Foss. I have driven that way many a time. It is a breathtaking drive.

You won't find that out here. The chase, with Bond under constant machinegun fire, is so quickly cut and so obviously composed of incomprehensible CGI that we're essentially looking at bright colors bouncing off each other, intercut with Bond at the wheel and POV shots of approaching monster trucks. Let's all think together. When has an action hero ever, even once, been killed by machinegun fire, no matter how many hundreds of rounds? The hit men should simply reject them and say, "No can do, Boss. They never work in this kind of movie."

The chase has no connection to the rest of plot, which is routine for Bond, but it's about the movie's last bow to tradition. In "Quantum of Solace" he will share no cozy quality time with the Bond girl (Olga Kurylenko). We fondly remember the immortal names of Pussy Galore, Xenia Onatopp and Plenty O'Toole, who I have always suspected was a drag queen. In this film, who do we get? Are you ready for this? Camille. That's it. Camille. Not even Camille Squeal. Or Cammy Miami. Or Miss O'Toole's friend Cam Shaft.

Daniel Craig remains a splendid Bond, one of the best. He is handsome, agile, muscular, dangerous. Everything but talkative. I didn't count, but I think M (Judi Dench) has more dialogue than 007. Bond doesn't look like the urge to peel Camille has even entered his mind. He blows up a hotel in the middle of a vast, barren, endless Bolivian desert. It's a luxury hotel, with angular W Hotel-style minimalist room furniture you might cut your legs on, and a bartender who will stir or shake you any drink, but James has become a regular bloke who orders lager. Who are the clients at this highest of high-end hotels? Lawrence of Arabia, obviously, and millionaires who hate green growing things. Conveniently, when the hotel blows up, the filmmakers don't have to contend with adjacent buildings, traffic, pedestrians, skylines or anything else. Talk about your blue screen. Nothing better than the azure desert sky.

Why is he in Bolivia? In pursuit of a global villain, whose name is not Goldfinger, Scaramanga, Drax or Le Chiffre, but ... Dominic Greene (Mathieu Amalric). What is Dominic's demented scheme to control the globe? As a start, the fiend desires to corner the water supply of ... Bolivia. Ohooo! Nooo! This twisted design, revealed to Bond after at least an hour of death-defying action, reminds me of the famous laboratory mouse who was introduced into a labyrinth. After fighting his way for days through baffling corridors and down dead ends, finally, finally, parched and starving, the little creature crawled at last to the training button and hurled his tiny body against it. And what rolled down the chute as his reward? A licorice gum ball.

Dominic Greene lacks a headquarters on the moon, or on the floor of the sea. He operates out of an ordinary shipping warehouse with loading docks. His evil transport is provided by fork lifts and pickup trucks. Bond doesn't have to creep out on the ledge of an underground volcano to spy on him. He just walks up to the chain-link fence and peers through. Greene could get useful security tips from Wal-Mart.

There is no Q in "Quantum of Solace," except in the title. No Miss Moneypenny at all. M now has a male secretary. That Judi Dench, what a fox. Bond doesn't even size her up. He learned his lesson with Plenty. This Bond, he doesn't bring much to the party. Daniel Craig can play suave and he can be funny and Brits are born doing double entendre. Craig is a fine actor. Here they lock him down. I repeat: James Bond is not an action hero! Leave the action to your Jason Bournes. This is a swampy old world. The deeper we sink in, the more we need James Bond to stand above it.
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He's right and he's wrong.

This is Bonds "Hulk". They need to retool and come back with the Incredible Hulk.It will take years a change of actors a refreshing of the character and taking the story back to what it is supposed to be.

And to never ever mention the last 2 movies ever again.
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Fair comments from Ebert. Quantum Of Solace is obviously not for him.
Doesn't mean it's not for everyone.
I think the Bond that most of you recognise will be back shortly. But still played by Daniel Craig.
I believe he's still there, just going through one of the many changes Bond has been through over the years.
Going back to the review, seems there's nothing wrong with Craig (another reviewer who thinks Craig is a great Bond :shock: ) and that he's good in the role.
Must say I agree with him. :wink:
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Let's face it. There ain't that many reviews out there slagging Craig off, even the negative ones. If the reviews have shown us anything in general, it is how popular Craig has become as Bond, regardless of how bad the film itself is to some.

Maybe you guys need to think about changing this forum title, given the general feedback now. How about DCFANB (Daniel Craig's Films Are Not Bond.....) :twisted:
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Roger said:
Daniel Craig remains a splendid Bond, one of the best. He is handsome
The review lost credibilty when he said that. Am I the only person in the world who thinks Daniel Craig does not have the looks to play Bond? Are these people short-sighted!

The reviews have said that Daniel Craig's character is not Bond in Quantum of Solace, so technically the reviews are saying Craig is not Bond. Just because they are being polite, saying "...but Craig puts in a good performance". :wink:
Roger said:
Daniel Craig can play suave and he can be funny and Brits are born doing double entendre.
Looks like Ebert and The Sweeney disagree on the type of Bond they'd like Craig to play. :wink:
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Captain Nash wrote:Fair comments from Ebert. Quantum Of Solace is obviously not for him.
Doesn't mean it's not for everyone.
I think the Bond that most of you recognise will be back shortly. But still played by Daniel Craig.
I believe he's still there, just going through one of the many changes Bond has been through over the years.
Going back to the review, seems there's nothing wrong with Craig (another reviewer who thinks Craig is a great Bond :shock: ) and that he's good in the role.
Must say I agree with him. :wink:
Now an opinion from someone who *doesn't* get a paycheck from EON :roll:
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katied wrote:
Captain Nash wrote:Fair comments from Ebert. Quantum Of Solace is obviously not for him.
Doesn't mean it's not for everyone.
I think the Bond that most of you recognise will be back shortly. But still played by Daniel Craig.
I believe he's still there, just going through one of the many changes Bond has been through over the years.
Going back to the review, seems there's nothing wrong with Craig (another reviewer who thinks Craig is a great Bond :shock: ) and that he's good in the role.
Must say I agree with him. :wink:
Now an opinion from someone who *doesn't* get a paycheck from EON :roll:
Seriously get your head out of your ass and quit being an idiot.
You're not making any kind of sense.
Cheap swipes at Mi6 and myself are not going to get you anywhere (except banned hopefully) but you are doing a great job of playing the fool.
Any other comments then it's all fine, yet Captain Nash has to be wrong on all counts. Paid by EON :roll: . Well done, you've sunk to a new low. How is the bottom of the barrel?
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The truth hurts...that QOS might not be the hit that everyone thinks it is...doesn't it? :?

Oh and the Union Tribune(San Diego newspaper)'s review isn't coming out till tomorrow which is rather telling..usually there are advance screenings for reviewers..but their reviewer is maybe seeing it tonight, or saw it last night.
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What Ebert got right in his Superman Returns review he got wrong in his CR review. Today he's lamenting the loss of 007 which is appropriate but he applauded the the substitution.
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Ebert is a trusted critic.People value his opinion,just like they do Kermode's in the UK(well, Bond fans aren't exactly fond of Kermode :P) I might not agree with *every* review but he's to be trusted,just the same 8)
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Captain Nash wrote:
katied wrote:
Captain Nash wrote:Fair comments from Ebert. Quantum Of Solace is obviously not for him.
Doesn't mean it's not for everyone.
I think the Bond that most of you recognise will be back shortly. But still played by Daniel Craig.
I believe he's still there, just going through one of the many changes Bond has been through over the years.
Going back to the review, seems there's nothing wrong with Craig (another reviewer who thinks Craig is a great Bond :shock: ) and that he's good in the role.
Must say I agree with him. :wink:
Now an opinion from someone who *doesn't* get a paycheck from EON :roll:
Seriously get your head out of your ass and quit being an idiot.
You're not making any kind of sense.
Cheap swipes at Mi6 and myself are not going to get you anywhere (except banned hopefully) but you are doing a great job of playing the fool.
Any other comments then it's all fine, yet Captain Nash has to be wrong on all counts. Paid by EON :roll: . Well done, you've sunk to a new low. How is the bottom of the barrel?
Katie stop Nash baiting! Can't you find other ways to entertain yourself on the forum?

As the Dr said, Roger has followed other critics in praising Craig and the new direction in Casino Royale - then complaining about the lack of Q, gadgets, a suave "double-entendre spouting" Bond in QOS....... :shock:
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This theory that Craig STILL is a great Bond is nonsense. If the film is based around Craig, and a host of reviews state what this forum has ALREADY been saying for the past 6 months, then Craig is lacking, period. He has been described as 'bored looking' as well. He has no charisma for this role, and Eon probably is in a state of shock with all of these poor reviews by now respected movie critics. If it does not look like Bond, if it does not act like Bond, if it does not speak or walk like Bond, guess what, IT A'INT BOND! We know it, the aptly named The Bourne Mimicry proves it, and it is time to regroup and cast the 7th 007.
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Apparently QOS' rating at Rotten Tomatoes has gone down(not that I give Rotten Tomatoes much creedence,mind you :wink: )
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When I finally got to see Casino Royale my conclusion was that it was a decent spy movie but bore no resemblance to either the movie or literary Bond. I just watched a copy of Quantum of Solace at my friends house and I have to say that it was a terrible movie, Craig was more sallow and depressing than ever, and it moved the Bond films light years further away from any version of Bond I know. Ian Fleming, Cubby Broccoli and Harry Saltzman must be spinning in their graves.

Shame on the Wilsons for obliterating Bond in the Casino Royale. Ten times ten that shame for not even making a watchable film this time.

Sony, MGM, somebody please push the reboot button. I'll take Gerard Butler, Hugh Jackman, an old Pierce Brosnan or even Roger Moore in a wheelchair anytime instead of more of this.

All of you kneel and pray that this movie bombs this weekend. Enough is enough.

P.S. - QOS has fallen to 58/100 on MetaCritic.com. That's an average of all movie rating scores. That's right up against High School Musical 3, Role Models and Zack and Miri Make a Porno.
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It was good,but not *that* good(I gave it 3 out of 5 stars)
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HeavenBoy wrote:When I finally got to see Casino Royale my conclusion was that it was a decent spy movie but bore no resemblance to either the movie or literary Bond. I just watched a copy of Quantum of Solace at my friends house and I have to say that it was a terrible movie, Craig was more sallow and depressing than ever, and it moved the Bond films light years further away from any version of Bond I know. Ian Fleming, Cubby Broccoli and Harry Saltzman must be spinning in their graves.

Shame on the Wilsons for obliterating Bond in the Casino Royale. Ten times ten that shame for not even making a watchable film this time.

Sony, MGM, somebody please push the reboot button. I'll take Gerard Butler, Hugh Jackman, an old Pierce Brosnan or even Roger Moore in a wheelchair anytime instead of more of this.

All of you kneel and pray that this movie bombs this weekend. Enough is enough.

P.S. - QOS has fallen to 58/100 on MetaCritic.com. That's an average of all movie rating scores. That's right up against High School Musical 3, Role Models and Zack and Miri Make a Porno.
Royale isn't fun to watch a second or third time and it is worse with Quantum. LTK is enjoyable over and over as is most of the series.This time they tied a powerful stink bomb to the whole Craig series.

Craig is even more distracting as Bond than he was before.When he smiles at that crooked Colonel at the party the creases and lines around his eyes were down right upsetting.Maybe that's why he is so angry all the time if he tries to look happy his face warps.
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As I said in my review.he's incapable of facial expressions most of the time. :wink:
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carl stromberg wrote:
Roger said:
Daniel Craig remains a splendid Bond, one of the best. He is handsome
The review lost credibilty when he said that. Am I the only person in the world who thinks Daniel Craig does not have the looks to play Bond? Are these people short-sighted!

The reviews have said that Daniel Craig's character is not Bond in Quantum of Solace, so technically the reviews are saying Craig is not Bond. Just because they are being polite, saying "...but Craig puts in a good performance". :wink:
Roger said:
Daniel Craig can play suave and he can be funny and Brits are born doing double entendre.
Looks like Ebert and The Sweeney disagree on the type of Bond they'd like Craig to play. :wink:
No, your not the only one who thinks that Craig's looks do not fit that of James Bond, not by a long shot.
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This is where things get serious. The consensus is that Quark was one of the worst films made by Eon. Do they respond by making Bond 23 back to basics classic Bond or do they continue on the path to ruin?
Critics who were willing to forgive the none Bond CR were less than forgiving when the concept was continued. People expected Quark to return to the Bond stable not to take up residence in the Jason Bourne/XXX/24 camp.

If they decide to return Bond to his roots will Craig risk it? Doubtful. He obviously isn't suited to the Bond Connery fashioned. From day one the soul of Bond was craved out of the series to accommodate Craig. My guess is he rather continue making Bourne knockoffs because they are easier. The majority of his work is physical, easy for him, and the rest is a monotone sentence every 30 min with stoic face.

If they continue on the current Bourne ideology he risks further lampooning and perhaps becoming synonymous with the man who took the fun and ruined Bond. Critics who turned on his concept of Bond, and it is his concept, may be even more venomous next time around as well as the fans being less forgiving.

There are a lot of risks for him to continue, for him it may be better to get out now while he can say he finished the story arc he wanted to do and go back to the smaller roles he likes best.

Or he may come back for the big paycheck and d**n everything else!
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I think for Bond 23 EON will return to the successful style of CR (lengthy epic, Bond more human, Fleming moments), combined with a return to traditional elements (Q, Moneypenny, gadgets, etc.) but done in a more realistic tone.

If they don't, it will be a mistake.
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