Favorite Movies: Bullitt, The Long Good Friday, The Towering Inferno, Jaws, Rocky, Superman the Movie, McVicar, Goodfellas, Get Carter, Three Days of the Condor, Butch & Sundance, The Sting, All the Presidents Men
Jedi007 wrote:
At least they do not say that 'this movie will be the best of them all' about DAD unlike CR wherein they told us that this is going to be 'the beginning', and in the beginning, this is how James Bond act, which is, we know that it is not true.
And as for DAD's failure, the blame still lies on EON.
The way you're reacting seems, for me, that you are very much, for lack of suitable word, in love with the EON people even though we can clearly see that they have lied to us, that they have been playing us for a long time, and it was them that produces these Roger Moorish, crappy James Bond flicks. You could at least admit that EON is bad and wrong, the same way I admit that CR was successful.
I have hated EON for the past decade. If you asked me what I thought of Babs and Co. during the painful Brosnan years, I would have said they deserved to be pushed off the edge of a cliff wearing concrete boots.
If you asked me what I thought of Babs and Co. after DAD, then that death would be too easy for them (I'd have to think of something even more nasty).
So your claim that I am `in love' with EON is laughable (although I do quite fancy Babs from a certain point of view... ).
After DAD I really thought that was it for me with Bond. After CR, let's say EON have gone some way to redeem themselves. If Bond 22 is as good as CR, then I will be back in love with EON again.
It's a love/hate relationship with me and EON.....
This is a joke. The cinematic Bond has been different from Fleming's Bond for many years, before Craig's Bond, before Brosnan's Bond, before Dalton's Bond etc.
That's what I've been talking all about here since the beginning. That it is the cinematic Bond that people knew, not the novel Bond. BUT I would like to say again that even though Bond was made suave and super in the films, they could still fused the novel element in the films without having to reboot the continuity as if Bond belongs to DC's Infinte Earths. They have done that in LTK. They could have at least brought Bond once more into the new modern age like they did in Brosnan's, then do here the Bond's dark side thing.
I've always thought that the differences in chracterization of Bond was due to different views of different storytellers, like for example, during the Roger Moore years, the storyteller focuses on Bond's charms. Then the new storyteller during the Dalton Era brought us a balanced view of James Bond charming facade and brooding inner self.
BOND sells, NOT CRAIG
The reboot is a risky area, did Eon need to do it? NO. Did this confuse alot of people? YES.
The Bond character will always be anchored in the values of the 60s
Favorite Movies: Bullitt, The Long Good Friday, The Towering Inferno, Jaws, Rocky, Superman the Movie, McVicar, Goodfellas, Get Carter, Three Days of the Condor, Butch & Sundance, The Sting, All the Presidents Men
"Let the sport commence" - here's the first part of explanations about my Bond toplist.
At the beginning I think that the question: which particular ingredients make good Bond film is worth putting. I'd list interesting plot, spectacle, drama, action, humor, and typical formula elements such as picturesque and/or exotic locations, beautiful women, fast cars, novel gadgets. Usually Bond films contain at least the majority of those elements. The secret why one flicks are better than the others lies in the balance beetwen them. It's just not enough to mix the right components. The thing that really matters is how they're mixed.
In case of TSWLM it appears that such balance was maintained .
Paraphrasing the words of Stromberg (“For me, this is all the world. There is beauty, there is ugliness and there is death.”) I’d say that there is an almost perfect mixture of all elements I’ve mentioned above.
The script, despite some similarities to YOLT, is definitely very entertaining – solid main plot, logical sequence of events, some surprising twists (great sub-plot aboutAmasova’s desire for vengeance for the death of her fiance). It’s all here.
The film is very spectacular. Pre-title sequence features one of the greatest stunt not only in Bond franchise but also in the whole cinema history – the famous ski jump off the cliff and the Union Jack parachute. Among other Bonds only free fall in MR
is comparable to this scene. The spectacle continues through the rest of the film: marvellous Ken Adam sets, enormous 007 stage built especially for that picture and, which is a kind of paradox, great miniatures. To tell the truth I didn’t realise that super tanker was a model until I saw DVD extras. The model of Stromberg’s headquarters – Atlantis was also stunning. Not to mention the best Bond car since Aston Martin DB5 – Lotus Esprit transforming into a submarine (which wins by a mile with the ejector seat, wouldn’t you say?).
As for drama there are several scenes which expose more emotional and darker sides of Bond’s character. First when Anya mention Bond’s marriage and he ask her to stop (“– You’re sensitive Mr. Bond. – About certain things, yes”) By the way fine contribution to the franchise continuity. Second when he kills Sandor in cold blood (“What a helpfull chap”) rates as one of most classic Bond moments. And finally when Bond have to admit to the murder of Anya’s lover. That perfectly scripted and surpraising twist in the plot, together with Sir Roger great delivery make one of the finest dramatic scenes in the series history.
On the field of action we have interesting fight in the train where Bond uses the exposed filaments from a broken lamp to electrocute Jaws through his teeth, memorable car chase leading to Lotus’s transformation into a submarine, quite
a battle inside the super tanker and yet another fight with Jaws (this time Bond uses an electro-magnet to hoist Jaws up by his teeth and drops him into the tank with sharks). Even the biggest malcontent has to admit that this amount of action is at least satisfactory.
All the above take palce in the exotic scenery of Egyptian sands, piramides and temples or magnificent landscapes of Sardinia. Superb underwater photography completes the image of the one of the most picturesque Bond films ever.
Now the humor department. TSWLM is fully loaded with one-liners, tongue-in-cheek and innuendos. The list of memorable quotes seems to be almost endless.
To enumerate only a few most famous: "When one is in Egypt, one should delve deeply into its treasures", the notice “Out of order” which Bond put on dead Kalba’s chest, ”Egyptian builders.”, “Maybe I misjudged Stromberg. Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad”, “Keeping the British end up, sir” and many, many more.
It’s impossible to not mention the actors and characters played by them.
Sir Roger as Bond was even better than usually – perfectly comfortable in the role, refined, witty and looking great.
Major Anya Amasova is one of the most interesting female character in franchise history – not only helpless addition to Bond, but his almost equal partner. Barbara Bach may not be the best acctres to play a heroine in a Greek tragedy, but still her portrayal of Amasova was believable. And just look how gorgeous woman she is.
Another fine character is Jaws. Here less comical than in MR, relentless and pretty terrifying, with the touch of incomptence, though. Really nice performance by Richard Kiel.
You may ask why I’ve written ‘almost perfect’ if the film is so great. Well, there are some flaws. Character of Stromberg isn’t the strongest point of the picture, music score, apart from famous title song, is rather mediocre and it could be more blood when Jaws kills people. But in comparison with the strong points those tiny drawbacks are unable to spoil the image of the best Bond film ever.
That’s all for now but if you aren’t fed up with my torchon, I’ll return with TMWTGG.
- "Do I look like I give a d**n?"
- You don't. And that's the main problem.
Favorite Bond Movie: Octopussy From Russia With Love The Living Daylights On Her Majestys Secret Service Doctor No .... Ah heck all of them
Favorite Movies: Lawrence Of Arabia, Forrest Gump, Jaws, The Shawshank Redemption, Vertigo, The Odd Couple, Zoolander, Cool Hand Luke, The Great Escape...many more.
Location: Well here obviously. At the moment of course
1. From Russia With Love.
2. On Her Majestys Secret Service.
3. The Spy Who Loved Me.
4. Octopussy.
5. Casino Royale.
6. The Living Daylights
7. Doctor No.
8. Thunderball.
10. GoldenEye.
Favorite Bond Movie: Octopussy From Russia With Love The Living Daylights On Her Majestys Secret Service Doctor No .... Ah heck all of them
Favorite Movies: Lawrence Of Arabia, Forrest Gump, Jaws, The Shawshank Redemption, Vertigo, The Odd Couple, Zoolander, Cool Hand Luke, The Great Escape...many more.
Location: Well here obviously. At the moment of course
Robert Stirling wrote:Interesting Captain Nash. I'm surprised that in spite of being die-hard Connery fan and supporter of serious approach to Bond you rate OP so high.
Well apart from some moments of silliness, Octopussy is a more serious Bond film than many give it credit. I always feel it gets an unjust view from many fans. It's because of that d**n Tarzan yell usually. As for my list, I like to think I can take all aspects of the Bond series and get some enjoyment out of them. Some more than others, The Spy Who Loved Me and Octopussy in particular were both the fims that got me hooked on the subject, and therefore have a place in my top ten. But I don't judge peoples preferences on favourites. But I do think we can discuss why they might choose a film we would not.
Favorite Movies: Bullitt, The Long Good Friday, The Towering Inferno, Jaws, Rocky, Superman the Movie, McVicar, Goodfellas, Get Carter, Three Days of the Condor, Butch & Sundance, The Sting, All the Presidents Men
I find it difficult to put the films in order. The only thing I can say is that CR is my least favourite. I'm not trying to be funny by saying that; it's simply that I can't really associate it with the rest of the series.
OHMSS is probably my favourite. But I can't say I really dislike any of the first 20 films; you could almost say I like them equally.
It's just strange that I can't get Daniel Craig at all!
Favorite Bond Movie: Octopussy From Russia With Love The Living Daylights On Her Majestys Secret Service Doctor No .... Ah heck all of them
Favorite Movies: Lawrence Of Arabia, Forrest Gump, Jaws, The Shawshank Redemption, Vertigo, The Odd Couple, Zoolander, Cool Hand Luke, The Great Escape...many more.
Location: Well here obviously. At the moment of course
carl stromberg wrote:I find it difficult to put the films in order. The only thing I can say is that CR is my least favourite. I'm not trying to be funny by saying that; it's simply that I can't really associate it with the rest of the series.
OHMSS is probably my favourite. But I can't say I really dislike any of the first 20 films; you could almost say I like them equally.
It's just strange that I can't get Daniel Craig at all!
Too each there own, but I find some of the previous Bond films more watchable and enjoyable than others.
But then we're all different. I also don't think it's bad to have a dislike for a film, so long as you can give a valid and sensible reason for doing so.
Favorite Movies: Bullitt, The Long Good Friday, The Towering Inferno, Jaws, Rocky, Superman the Movie, McVicar, Goodfellas, Get Carter, Three Days of the Condor, Butch & Sundance, The Sting, All the Presidents Men
carl stromberg wrote:I find it difficult to put the films in order. The only thing I can say is that CR is my least favourite. I'm not trying to be funny by saying that; it's simply that I can't really associate it with the rest of the series.
OHMSS is probably my favourite. But I can't say I really dislike any of the first 20 films; you could almost say I like them equally.
It's just strange that I can't get Daniel Craig at all!
Another few viewings on DVD may end up changing your mind. You never know....
1. From Russia With Love.
2. On Her Majestys Secret Service.
3. The Spy Who Loved Me.
4. Octopussy.
5. Casino Royale.
6. The Living Daylights
7. Doctor No.
8. Thunderball.
10. GoldenEye.
The Sweeney wrote:My top 10 (and a couple of guilty pleasures in there...)
A couple in mine as well, namely YOLT and LALD, both films I saw at an impressionable age, meaning I'm inclined to be more lenient with them than I would if they didn't invoke such warm 'n' fuzzy childhood memories.
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
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