The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

General Bond discussion from Sean Connery to Pierce Brosnan
Post Reply
User avatar
kater23
Moneypenny
Posts: 1402
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:31 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Goldfinger,Living Daylights
Favorite Movies: Animal House, Star Wars(original recipe)
Location: California
Contact:

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by kater23 »

On a related note, my parents just got back from a trip to Scotland and England(but didn't run into Seannery, shadly. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )
I have no time for No Time To Die :lol:
User avatar
Kristatos
OO Moderator
OO Moderator
Posts: 12569
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:26 pm
Location: St. Cyril's

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Kristatos »

kater23 wrote:On a related note, my parents just got back from a trip to Scotland and England(but didn't run into Seannery, shadly. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )
Probably becaushe he livesh in Shpain.

Sent from my GT-S7500 using Tapatalk 2
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
User avatar
Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry
OO Moderator
OO Moderator
Posts: 2971
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:06 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Moonraker
Goldfinger
The Spy Who Loved Me
Favorite Movies: Raiders of the Lost Ark, Crazy For Christmas, The Empire Strikes Back, League of Gentlemen (1960's British film), Big Trouble in Little China, Police Academy 2, Carry On At Your Convenience, Commando, Halloween III: Season of the Witch,
Location: Terra

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry »

Kristatos wrote:On a different subject, I will confess to having something of an addiction to screenwriting books, even though I blame them for much of what's wrong with modern movies (the author of this article agrees). I think it's because I have the slightly anal sort of mind that loves to see information organised into lists, charts, tables etc. The latest one I'm reading is called The Story Solution: 23 Actions All Great Heroes Must Take (see, a number in the title - that means a list!) by Eric Edson. I was annoyed to find this in the first chapter:
But what about films that stay on the surface of life? What's the theme of, say, an early Bond movie? This charming one-dimensional hero lived only to triumph over the bad guys. And he never lost. So the message in any early Bond film has to be: good always triumphs over evil.

From shallow genres come shallow themes, but we must note that there is a theme, even in a James Bond movie.

Today Bond has been overhauled to make this iconic character more interesting and he has finally been given human flaws and inner conflicts that allow new 007 stories to contain deeper themes about love and the hollowness of revenge.

So the screenwriter's goal is to design from beginning to end a captivating, meaningful journey for a troubled hero — a journey that leads the audience to discover some universal human truth and experience strong emotion.
See, this is why we can't have good things. It's easy to rail against Barbara Broccoli, but she is only following the conventional wisdom in Hollywood. If this sort of crap is being taught in screenwriting books and classes, no wonder movies are no fun any more.
If Daniel Craig's more "meaningful" Bond movie Casino Royale was the first Bond cinema adaption it would have also have been the last.
Image
User avatar
Mazer Rackham
Q
Posts: 1569
Joined: Tue May 08, 2007 8:50 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Thunderball
From Russia with love
Location: Eros

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Mazer Rackham »

If I were Affleck I would be on the phone begging Bale to come back :twisted:

I don't have a clue what the studios were thinking the announcement alone was so mishandled it would be laughable if they were not serious. We can argue in circles about the merits of Ben Affleck as an actor, director, writer, however I wouldn't compare the outrage to his casting to Craig, it's worse and potentially more damaging. Obviously Craig has done well enough to argue for the craggy wannabe thespian, however I'd just a vehemently argue he is miscast and the movies have become misdirected and misguided. Yet his only saving grace may be the fifty years of cinematic Bond, Craig is so out of step with traditional Bond the right circles who never liked Bond now have a reason to cheer. The problem for Batman is the audience only has only recently decided on a Batman, and Batman is not yet a brand name -in cinema- that can withstand any storm. WB/DC have big dreams for their superhero universe, Affleck threatens this, even if he does a good job as Batman/Wayne if he doesn't knock it out of the park redefining Batman anew to his favor those dreams of franchise can all come crashing down. And if this is a one off appearance why bother?

Affleck has recently redeemed himself in the minds of many but not enough to put his thumb in the eye of the movie going public.
"That f**king truck driver!" Ian Fleming
User avatar
kater23
Moneypenny
Posts: 1402
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:31 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Goldfinger,Living Daylights
Favorite Movies: Animal House, Star Wars(original recipe)
Location: California
Contact:

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by kater23 »

Saw a picture of Val Kilmer..hard to believe he used to be Batman! :shock:
I have no time for No Time To Die :lol:
User avatar
bjmdds
001
Posts: 14364
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:14 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Any without CR-egg in it.

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by bjmdds »

He was not bad as Batman.
User avatar
bjmdds
001
Posts: 14364
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:14 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Any without CR-egg in it.

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by bjmdds »

Mazer Rackham wrote:If I were Affleck I would be on the phone begging Bale to come back :twisted:

I don't have a clue what the studios were thinking the announcement alone was so mishandled it would be laughable if they were not serious. We can argue in circles about the merits of Ben Affleck as an actor, director, writer, however I wouldn't compare the outrage to his casting to Craig, it's worse and potentially more damaging. Obviously Craig has done well enough to argue for the craggy wannabe thespian, however I'd just a vehemently argue he is miscast and the movies have become misdirected and misguided. Yet his only saving grace may be the fifty years of cinematic Bond, Craig is so out of step with traditional Bond the right circles who never liked Bond now have a reason to cheer. The problem for Batman is the audience only has only recently decided on a Batman, and Batman is not yet a brand name -in cinema- that can withstand any storm. WB/DC have big dreams for their superhero universe, Affleck threatens this, even if he does a good job as Batman/Wayne if he doesn't knock it out of the park redefining Batman anew to his favor those dreams of franchise can all come crashing down. And if this is a one off appearance why bother?

Affleck has recently redeemed himself in the minds of many but not enough to put his thumb in the eye of the movie going public.
"Viewer discretion when opening up these photos revealing Miley and Gag-Gag"............Hello Q. Casting in Hollywood has become one big joke. Watch them make Alfred into a female Alfie or even make Alfred gay. That's how devoid of reasoning Hollwood has become. Just look at Miley Cyrus rubbing her rear, in her underwear, into the 36 year old Thicke's groin on stage last night http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HA.210558190216&pid=1.7 on the VMA awards from Brooklyn NY, as well as Gag-Gag undressing on stage into her Eve's panties and a G-string. http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article ... 223199.jpg What a decadent society we are all witnessing from Cr-egg being ordered in drag by Broccoli to these moronic idiots running the entertainment industry. Q, how did Man Of Steel do money-wise? Loss? Profit? Even?
Last edited by bjmdds on Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:21 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Blowfeld
Ministry of Defence
Ministry of Defence
Posts: 3195
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:03 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Goldfinger
For Your Eyes only
The Living Daylights
Location: the world

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Blowfeld »

Kristatos wrote:
kater23 wrote:On a related note, my parents just got back from a trip to Scotland and England(but didn't run into Seannery, shadly. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )
Probably becaushe he livesh in Shpain.

Sent from my GT-S7500 using Tapatalk 2
+1
Kris beat me to it I had the same thought. If there ever is another Connery sighting in Scotland, it will be such a sock Nessie will come out to see him. ;)
Image
"Those were the days when we still associated Bond with suave, old school actors such as Sean Connery and Roger Moore,"
"Daniel didn't have a hint of suave about him," - Patsy Palmer
User avatar
John P. Drake
Agent
Posts: 1658
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:42 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies.
Location: Somewhere, strangling Barbara Broccoli.

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by John P. Drake »

Tell me about it, BJ. Everything is well-perverted nowadays. And I mean EVERYTHING!!
Image
User avatar
FormerBondFan
008
Posts: 6325
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:24 am
Favorite Bond Movie: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Kingsman: The Secret Service and The November Man or any upcoming actioners starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good since it will help him expand his reputation as an actor especially in the action realm)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars
Indiana Jones
Star Trek
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Harry Potter
Middle-Earth
The Matrix
Mission: Impossible
The Mummy
Jurassic Park
Godzilla
Location: Southern CA

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by FormerBondFan »

Looks like Synder has set his eyes on Tim for Alfred.

http://www.inquisitr.com/923616/man-of- ... er-report/
Image
User avatar
bjmdds
001
Posts: 14364
Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:14 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Any without CR-egg in it.

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by bjmdds »

What kind of idiocy is this? Dalton is NOT Alfred nor should he be in this film. I would not spend a penny on this garbage with Cranston as Luther as well. FBF, don't hold your breath trying to hope this becomes an Avengers type of film. Drakester, what say yee? Do we abandon ship on this one?
User avatar
Omega
0010
Posts: 7321
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:01 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: TLD LTK GE TND TWINE DAD OHMSS
Favorite Movies: Gladiator
John Wick
Pacific Rim
LOTR trilogy
RED
Kingsman
X-Men First Class
X-Men Days of Futures Past
MI Rogue Nation
Location: the lost city
Contact:

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Omega »

I dunno . I could see tim as the kind of Alfred Michael Caine was. Or maybe the older batman giving young superman advice.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
............ :007:
User avatar
FormerBondFan
008
Posts: 6325
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:24 am
Favorite Bond Movie: The Dark Knight Trilogy, Mission: Impossible, Kingsman: The Secret Service and The November Man or any upcoming actioners starring Pierce Brosnan (no, it's not James Bond which is good since it will help him expand his reputation as an actor especially in the action realm)
Favorite Movies: Star Wars
Indiana Jones
Star Trek
The Dark Knight Trilogy
Harry Potter
Middle-Earth
The Matrix
Mission: Impossible
The Mummy
Jurassic Park
Godzilla
Location: Southern CA

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by FormerBondFan »

With the mustache, Tim reminds me of Alfred from the 90s Batcartoon.
Image
User avatar
Blowfeld
Ministry of Defence
Ministry of Defence
Posts: 3195
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:03 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Goldfinger
For Your Eyes only
The Living Daylights
Location: the world

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Blowfeld »

Really Timothy as the butler.
Image
"Those were the days when we still associated Bond with suave, old school actors such as Sean Connery and Roger Moore,"
"Daniel didn't have a hint of suave about him," - Patsy Palmer
User avatar
Kristatos
OO Moderator
OO Moderator
Posts: 12569
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:26 pm
Location: St. Cyril's

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Kristatos »

Alfred is supposed to be ex-Military, so a former Bond is an inspired choice.
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
User avatar
John P. Drake
Agent
Posts: 1658
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:42 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies.
Location: Somewhere, strangling Barbara Broccoli.

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by John P. Drake »

bjmdds wrote:Drakester, what say yee? Do we abandon ship on this one?
Zack Snyder, Christopher Nolan, so-called "dark", so-called "gritty", emoism, 2 and half an hour of mind torture, much like how it was with The Dark Knight Rises (I don't mean to harass anyone, just my opinion) or the bland and boring Skyfall or even the most recent Man of Steel, which I have never seen but heard from a friend of how bored he was, even Sweeney has put down the movie, so I'd say we should abandon ship, immediately.
Kristatos wrote:Alfred is supposed to be ex-Military, so a former Bond is an inspired choice.
Yes, Alfred is an ex-Military, but that's not the way they are going to portray him, they want him to be emotionally struggling or heart-broken butler who wants to get over with his life and end it. You know very well how it goes with the Hollywood movies, these days.
Image
User avatar
John P. Drake
Agent
Posts: 1658
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:42 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, GoldenEye, Tomorrow Never Dies.
Location: Somewhere, strangling Barbara Broccoli.

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by John P. Drake »

Image
User avatar
Blowfeld
Ministry of Defence
Ministry of Defence
Posts: 3195
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:03 pm
Favorite Bond Movie: Goldfinger
For Your Eyes only
The Living Daylights
Location: the world

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Blowfeld »

Kristatos wrote:Alfred is supposed to be ex-Military, so a former Bond is an inspired choice.
I enjoyed the story line in 'Batman of the Future' where Bruce had to sit alone worrying about the new Batman the way Alfred did for him.

I know a little of Alfred's backstory, I have a hard time picturing Timothy in the role.
Image
"Those were the days when we still associated Bond with suave, old school actors such as Sean Connery and Roger Moore,"
"Daniel didn't have a hint of suave about him," - Patsy Palmer
User avatar
Kristatos
OO Moderator
OO Moderator
Posts: 12569
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:26 pm
Location: St. Cyril's

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Kristatos »

Blowfeld wrote:
Kristatos wrote:Alfred is supposed to be ex-Military, so a former Bond is an inspired choice.
I enjoyed the story line in 'Batman of the Future' where Bruce had to sit alone worrying about the new Batman the way Alfred did for him.

I know a little of Alfred's backstory, I have a hard time picturing Timothy in the role.
They're probably following the lead of the New 52 comics, where Alfred is well 'ard, guvnor.

Sent from my GT-S7500 using Tapatalk 2
"He's the one that doesn't smile" - Queen Elizabeth II on Daniel Craig
User avatar
Napoleon Solo
Agent
Posts: 529
Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:56 am
Favorite Bond Movie: From Russia With Love
Contact:

Re: The BJMDDS General Discussion Thread......

Post by Napoleon Solo »

I think the HMSS link is for all posts made today, Aug. 28. A second post was made after the one about Solo.

Here's the link to today's HMSS post about Solo and the real-life war that part of Solo's plot is based on:

http://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2013/08 ... oyds-solo/
Post Reply