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Watched the new Total Recall, man no wonder it flopped they didn't even
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Kate Beckinsale & Jessica Biel were an improvement IMO, over all decent action but the move it remade was a legend so the remake can't be average.
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March Of The Wooden Soldiers is on now. Classic and more enjoyable than Bond 23. BBC-A showed TMWTGG last night. What a pleasure watching a fun Bond film. Too bad that fun in a Bond film is a thing of the past.
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Forecast (Nov. 23-25) Boxofficemojo. They were way off last weekend. SK-AWFUL could drop to third and Twilight could gross much more.
1. Breaking Dawn Part 2 - $45 million ($68.2 million five-day)
2. Skyfall - $34.2 million ($50 million)
3. Rise of the Guardians - $32 million ($45.5 million)
4. Lincoln - $17.9 million ($24.5 million)
5. Wreck-It Ralph - $17 million ($23.3 million)
6. Life of Pi - $15 million ($21.1 million)
7. Red Dawn - $10.6 million ($14.8 million)
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http://www.apple.com/itunes/charts/songs/ Itunes charts shows Adele's song dropping to 14th place as Gangnam Style is still number 2. I guess those believing this dirge would last in excitement were disappointed to say the least. Adele's songs don't usually drop out of the top 10 so fast, do they? :lol: :lol: :lol: It's going nowhere on Billboard either landing at 33, an improvement from 56th. No TDNR numbers..........no number 1 song.........just millions of minions brainwashed into boredom.
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bjmdds wrote:http://www.apple.com/itunes/charts/songs/ Itunes charts shows Adele's song dropping to 14th place as Gangnam Style is still number 2. I guess those believing this dirge would last in excitement were disappointed to say the least. Adele's songs don't usually drop out of the top 10 so fast, do they? :lol: :lol: :lol: It's going nowhere on Billboard either landing at 33, an improvement from 56th. No TDNR numbers..........no number 1 song.........just millions of minions brainwashed into boredom.
No. 1 in 24 countries BJ. Spin it any way you want, but this is the highest charting single for Bond since AVTAK......
http://www.adele.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26115
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bjmdds wrote:http://www.apple.com/itunes/charts/songs/ Itunes charts shows Adele's song dropping to 14th place as Gangnam Style is still number 2. I guess those believing this dirge would last in excitement were disappointed to say the least. Adele's songs don't usually drop out of the top 10 so fast, do they? :lol: :lol: :lol: It's going nowhere on Billboard either landing at 33, an improvement from 56th. No TDNR numbers..........no number 1 song.........just millions of minions brainwashed into boredom.
No. 1 in 24 countries BJ. Spin it any way you want, but this is the highest charting single for Bond since AVTAK......
http://www.adele.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26115
Charting in 24 countries doesn't mean as much it used, I looked at the daily numbers a little while ago it was no. 1 with 75 sales, most times less. Just because it charted No. 1 in Slovakia with 4 sales doesn't make it brag worthy, of course it's great PR material without looking further at it.

US UK and bigger EU markets done decent business.
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Happy Thanksgiving to the US members. :cheers:

BJ do you mean the Laurel and Hardy March of the Wooden soldiers?
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YES.
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Mazer Rackham wrote:
The Sweeney wrote:
bjmdds wrote:http://www.apple.com/itunes/charts/songs/ Itunes charts shows Adele's song dropping to 14th place as Gangnam Style is still number 2. I guess those believing this dirge would last in excitement were disappointed to say the least. Adele's songs don't usually drop out of the top 10 so fast, do they? :lol: :lol: :lol: It's going nowhere on Billboard either landing at 33, an improvement from 56th. No TDNR numbers..........no number 1 song.........just millions of minions brainwashed into boredom.
No. 1 in 24 countries BJ. Spin it any way you want, but this is the highest charting single for Bond since AVTAK......
http://www.adele.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26115
Charting in 24 countries doesn't mean as much it used, I looked at the daily numbers a little while ago it was no. 1 with 75 sales, most times less. Just because it charted No. 1 in Slovakia with 4 sales doesn't make it brag worthy, of course it's great PR material without looking further at it.

US UK and bigger EU markets done decent business.
It's done nothing here in the USA and that's the major music market. Heck, it never got to number 1 in the UK :!: Sorry Sweeney, it's not up to Adele-mania standards.
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Capt. Sir Dominic Flandry wrote:Happy Thanksgiving to the US members. :cheers:

BJ do you mean the Laurel and Hardy March of the Wooden soldiers?
Happy Thanksgiving!!!

March of the Wooden Soldiers haven't seen that one in ages. I heard they are doing a 3D treatment of it! :shock:
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Le Chiffre.......Dominic Greene.........Silva.......3 extremely boring villains the last 3 films......3 boring and uninspired plots.....zero escapism....Cr-egg looks hideous................miscast MP and Q return, and M exits and is replaced................what is the worldwide hysteria based on? Grunge sells? Dumbed down Bond sells?
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It sells so did Moores, I don't know if the audience is as discriminating as we suppose.
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If DC Bond sells because of the Bond brand, then there should be no problem for Bond films starring a freak as Bond to do so. After all, it is James Bond, right?
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Happy Thanksgiving! I never want to eat again. I am so full it is insane. It was all SO delicious and hard to resist!
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katied wrote:Happy Thanksgiving! I never want to eat again. I am so full it is insane. It was all SO delicious and hard to resist!
Yes. good to see family too.

Black friday already started, not a lot out there I can use this year. Got a few xbox games but that's for me nothing of real resale value popping up.
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Not sure how accurate this is, but SF has now beaten CR in the adjusted for inflation BO figures, currently in at no. 6. I knew it would beat CR, the question is, can it get towards the top 3?

Mazer may know more on these figures......

1. $1,037,291,060.32 - Thunderball
2. $932,346,267.74 - Goldfinger
3. $843,280,463.96 - Live And Let Die
4. $773,204,227.54 - You Only Live Twice
5. $707,967,950.50 - The Spy Who Loved Me
6. $685,945,000.00 - Skyfall
7. $682,098,608.86 - Casino Royale
8. $670,341,133.13 - Moonraker
19. $662,795,358.02 - Diamonds Are Forever
10. $629,928,504.77 - Quantum Of Solace
11. $596,667,068.63 - From Russia With Love
12. $555,648,360.42 - Die Another Day
13. $534,777,984.42 - GoldenEye
14. $517,040,163.49 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
15. $502,584,334.85 - The World Is Not Enough
16. $497,181,376.24 - For Your Eyes Only
17. $480,131,415.66 - Tomorrow Never Dies
18. $458,120,146.04 - The Man With The Golden Gun
19. $456,431,419.48 - Dr. No
20. $435,630,647.59 - Octopussy
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How many theaters did the top 5 play to?
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bjmdds wrote:How many theaters did the top 5 play to?
Not sure. There are other things to consider too - movie cable channels, illegal downloads and DVD was not all the range back in the 60's, so more people had to go to the cinema for movie entertainment in those days.

So it is difficult to put modern day figures against a different era to get true reflections.

Either way, scoring 91% on RT, Oscar talk and breaking into the top 5 all-time BO figures, I think Babs will be happy.
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These are not real accurate for comparison, that it looks like is they used a inflation calculator adjusting 2006 total to 2012, only it is not accurate for movies.
It works for salaries, but once we get to movie take and attendances it falls apart. I also don't believe it works for adjusting cost either, some things cost more or less depending on the change in technology. A action stunt heavy film in the in 70s and 80s couldn't get the same rates on the stunt work today, CGI anf FX would be cheaper (depending), Most importantly there is set budgets and those budgets are what they are.

I have attendance numbers for the everything but Skyfall, when I have the time I'll make the chart.
The reason a chart the one above is doesn't work is it assumes everyone is buying tickets infatuated for 1965, where as ticket inflation is on a totally different trajectory.
Example the billion dollar Bond Tunderball with 166 million people flocking to it in 2012 are only paying 2004 ticket prices. That doesn't work for a fair comparison.


I'll say this QOS and CR adjusted have not been surpassed yet.
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bjmdds wrote:How many theaters did the top 5 play to?
Not sure. There are other things to consider too - movie cable channels, illegal downloads and DVD was not all the range back in the 60's, so more people had to go to the cinema for movie entertainment in those days.

So it is difficult to put modern day figures against a different era to get true reflections.

Either way, scoring 91% on RT, Oscar talk and breaking into the top 5 all-time BO figures, I think Babs will be happy.
She'd be happy to make films in her garage if her boy lollipop were the star. Sony and MGM are the one who are pleased. But they still need 800, to break even. Even if it all stopped today they'd break profit on the video sales.

You can't over think the comparisons, bottom line it as 166 million people went to see the movie, trying to say "well if they had internet they wouldn't been 150m" won't wash.

It is very easy to get a true reflection, attendance x today's average ticket cost. Well maybe not a simple as that because a decent average number needs to be agreed on.
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